4TheGlory
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Post by 4TheGlory on Sept 15, 2013 0:26:12 GMT -5
Mayweather wins, but one judge had it a draw...somehow.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Sept 15, 2013 0:27:02 GMT -5
I will say, I did think that the commentators and ESPN and stuff were WAYYYYYYYYY overrating how Mayweather did, but to call THAT a draw is ridiculous.
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Post by The Portable Stove on Sept 15, 2013 0:27:45 GMT -5
Who's the booker? I'm getting tired of seeing Floyd on top. Give someone else a run with the belts!
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Post by Brooklynpunk97 on Sept 15, 2013 0:31:50 GMT -5
Floyd Mayweather is the most controversial champion the WBC Universe has ever seen!
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Sept 15, 2013 0:32:49 GMT -5
Mayweather wins, but one judge had it a draw...somehow. Same exact judge that had Bradley over Pacquiao
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 0:42:20 GMT -5
Who's the booker? I'm getting tired of seeing Floyd on top. Give someone else a run with the belts! Mayweather's defense is the booker right now, and it's burying everyone.
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Post by Knailsic From Now On on Sept 15, 2013 0:44:42 GMT -5
Last time I have faith in the underdog.
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Post by corndog on Sept 15, 2013 0:48:09 GMT -5
Mayweather put on a clinic out there, have no idea how someone called it a draw is unbelieveable. Still the homer announcer calling it the biggest sporting event ever was absolutely absurd.
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Post by chazraps on Sept 15, 2013 0:52:32 GMT -5
So will how poorly Alverez looked despite being "undefeated" make people realize that Mayweather being "undefeated" isn't all that impressive?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 0:58:47 GMT -5
So will how poorly Alverez looked despite being "undefeated" make people realize that Mayweather being "undefeated" isn't all that impressive? He's the place where all the other undefeated streaks go to die though. His being "undefeated" isn't all that impressive in itself, but it's more impressive than other undefeated boxers. It comes down to quality of competition I guess.
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Post by chazraps on Sept 15, 2013 1:10:32 GMT -5
So will how poorly Alverez looked despite being "undefeated" make people realize that Mayweather being "undefeated" isn't all that impressive? He's the place where all the other undefeated streaks go to die though. His being "undefeated" isn't all that impressive in itself, but it's more impressive than other undefeated boxers. It comes down to quality of competition I guess. I guess I just can't see Mayweather's legacy really match-up 10-20 years from now. Maybe it's just me, but outside of the Shane fight, when's he really been tested? I'm not denying he's incredibly talented and is a great fighter (the tear he went on that the start of the 2000s was incredible) but that "0" seems to be everything to him at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 1:13:18 GMT -5
What bothers me about Mayweather's opponents is that no matter how technically unskilled they may be, they ALWAYS attempt to outbox Floyd in the first five rounds. Then in the next couple of rounds they attempt to hit him with headshots, and then in the last few rounds futilely chase him around.
I'm not exaggerating when I say that Mayweather's fights are more predictable than 2005 John Cena matches.
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Post by An Old Villain on Sept 15, 2013 1:14:35 GMT -5
First live fight ive gone out of my way to watch in years, completely underwhelmed.
Have no clue why anyone would call that a draw buuuuuut I guess it may up the chances for a sequel.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 1:26:57 GMT -5
He's the place where all the other undefeated streaks go to die though. His being "undefeated" isn't all that impressive in itself, but it's more impressive than other undefeated boxers. It comes down to quality of competition I guess. I guess I just can't see Mayweather's legacy really match-up 10-20 years from now. Maybe it's just me, but outside of the Shane fight, when's he really been tested? I'm not denying he's incredibly talented and is a great fighter (the tear he went on that the start of the 2000s was incredible) but that "0" seems to be everything to him at this point. I feel like you're more of a boxing guy than I am, I don't know that much. Are there better fighters out there he's been ducking over the years (besides the whole Pacquiao debacle)? If he's fighting the best there is to offer and not even being tested, moving up and down weight classes, to me that says he's just that much better than everyone else, so that either makes him one of the best ever or just the best right now in a sea of unimpressive fighters. Either way, I find his style fascinating to watch, it's so effortless and graceful.
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Post by psychokiller on Sept 15, 2013 2:03:58 GMT -5
I guess I just can't see Mayweather's legacy really match-up 10-20 years from now. Maybe it's just me, but outside of the Shane fight, when's he really been tested? I'm not denying he's incredibly talented and is a great fighter (the tear he went on that the start of the 2000s was incredible) but that "0" seems to be everything to him at this point. I feel like you're more of a boxing guy than I am, I don't know that much. Are there better fighters out there he's been ducking over the years (besides the whole Pacquiao debacle)? If he's fighting the best there is to offer and not even being tested, moving up and down weight classes, to me that says he's just that much better than everyone else, so that either makes him one of the best ever or just the best right now in a sea of unimpressive fighters. Either way, I find his style fascinating to watch, it's so effortless and graceful. Well he "retired" back in 2008 because the welterweight division was heating up at the time. He clearly ducked Antonio Margarito. Just look it up on Youtube & see how scared Mayweather was when Margarito walked up to him asking to fight him. Floyd turned down 8 million to fight him. He also ducked Paul Williams which I'm sure was due to him being a half a foot taller & having a 7" reach advantage on him. That would have been one of Floyd's toughest fights in my opinion. Also, Sergio Martinez had been calling him out for a few years & Floyd basically just avoided him. Sergio said he'd be willing to drop down to 154 to fight him, yet Floyd just ignored it. Right now though, I don't see anyone beating Mayweather. If a fighter doesn't have great speed/footwork their not going to beat Mayweather. Alvarez tonight looked so slow & tired in the entire second half of the fight, so he had no chance unless he got a lucky punch in. Rumors are that Floyd will either face Danny Garcia next, or the winner of the Amir Khan vs Devon Alexander fight in December. Of those 3 I think Khan would give him the most problems due to his very quick speed. Problem is he doesn't have a good chin at all. One big clean shot, and Khan will most likely be down. If he didn't have a weak chin, he'd be one of very best in the sport right now.
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Post by chazraps on Sept 15, 2013 2:35:45 GMT -5
I guess I just can't see Mayweather's legacy really match-up 10-20 years from now. Maybe it's just me, but outside of the Shane fight, when's he really been tested? I'm not denying he's incredibly talented and is a great fighter (the tear he went on that the start of the 2000s was incredible) but that "0" seems to be everything to him at this point. I feel like you're more of a boxing guy than I am, I don't know that much. Are there better fighters out there he's been ducking over the years (besides the whole Pacquiao debacle)? If he's fighting the best there is to offer and not even being tested, moving up and down weight classes, to me that says he's just that much better than everyone else, so that either makes him one of the best ever or just the best right now in a sea of unimpressive fighters. Either way, I find his style fascinating to watch, it's so effortless and graceful. This 2009 interview with Mayweather pretty much pinpoints the problems with his legacy in his own words: (language warning)
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Post by Unocal 76 on Sept 15, 2013 5:15:59 GMT -5
For the good of boxing, someone needs to KO Mayweather like Marquez did to Pacquiao.
He's so defensive that he doesn't have the balls to slug it out with anyone.
It would be the greatest thing to happen for boxing in eons- we'd have this generation's Buster Douglas.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 6:31:42 GMT -5
Who's the booker? I'm getting tired of seeing Floyd on top. Give someone else a run with the belts!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 8:00:26 GMT -5
I guess I just can't see Mayweather's legacy really match-up 10-20 years from now. Maybe it's just me, but outside of the Shane fight, when's he really been tested? I'm not denying he's incredibly talented and is a great fighter (the tear he went on that the start of the 2000s was incredible) but that "0" seems to be everything to him at this point. I feel like you're more of a boxing guy than I am, I don't know that much. Are there better fighters out there he's been ducking over the years (besides the whole Pacquiao debacle)? If he's fighting the best there is to offer and not even being tested, moving up and down weight classes, to me that says he's just that much better than everyone else, so that either makes him one of the best ever or just the best right now in a sea of unimpressive fighters. It's definitely the latter. I don't think Floyd could ever be considered a contender for "greatest ever" because of his lack of punching strength. His technical prowess is outstanding but he can't brawl to save his life and his chin is pretty soft (Cotto is hardly a knockout artist but had Floyd wavering in several rounds). He looks crisp and clear against a moron who tries to outbox him, but even a monkey should be able to understand that trying to outbox him is a waste of time. Maybe Alvarez was afraid he'd eat too many punches to the face. Seeing as how his defense was breached dozens of times, it didn't make any difference. If he had run into some of Mayweather's jabs it would've been worth it to work on the body. So what if he can roll off the punches? If you punch his arms enough that you should break one, his defensive style suddenly becomes extremely useless.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 9:45:59 GMT -5
Floyd won? Color me shocked.
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