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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 17, 2013 7:18:51 GMT -5
I don't think they should go off the road totally, but maybe they should focus more on smaller markets for the most part. Cheaper to book, and they'll probably make a bit more money (as well as look better on TV)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 7:32:57 GMT -5
Why don't they just give up on a live audience and film in an empty soundstage with green screens round 3 sides (not needed on hard camera side) then they can impose any sort of venue they want in to the background.
And they can control the sound of the crowd
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 7:58:50 GMT -5
Janice Carter is squashing everyone with the Budget Cutter.
I wanted TNA to go on the road and from a product standpoint I do think it helped, but it doesn't seem that TNA itself put much thought into the costs associated long term. It sounds more like Hogan/Bischoff telling Dixie that "this the next step" again. Things aren't looking good for TNA at the moment.
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Post by paywindah on Sept 17, 2013 8:05:47 GMT -5
The wrestlers would hate if they chose Vegas as most live in Florida.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 8:13:43 GMT -5
Considering that they were not making money...adding to their expenses was just stupid.
Maybe this is the moment when Dixie decided to stop being a stupid mark and sacks Hogan and Bishoff...before they give her more bad advice.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Sept 17, 2013 10:01:57 GMT -5
I don't think they should go off the road totally, but maybe they should focus more on smaller markets for the most part. Cheaper to book, and they'll probably make a bit more money (as well as look better on TV) Having worked w/ TNA in promoting some smaller markets, all I can say is, ^This is not the answer.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Sept 17, 2013 10:09:35 GMT -5
Janice Carter is squashing everyone with the Budget Cutter. Truly the most destructive move in wrestling history. No one and nothing is safe!
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Post by Andrew is Good on Sept 17, 2013 10:27:37 GMT -5
They have to go off the road. TNA is bleeding money. It seemed like a good idea at the time without knowing the road expenses and thinking TNA had an idea on how to offset those road expenses. Janice Carter is squashing everyone with the Budget Cutter. Truly the most destructive move in wrestling history. No one and nothing is safe! You can cut a lot of things and people with Janice. If there was ever an inanimate object that best described someone, it's Janice.
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Post by ICBM on Sept 17, 2013 11:09:34 GMT -5
I never thought about Abyss naming his nail stick thing Janice until you posted that. I wonder if that is like an insider's thing like Debiase's man servant being named Virgil?
Back on topic, damn...I really can't take this any other way than bad. A sign of no kidding hard times.
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Post by Michael Coello on Sept 17, 2013 14:16:36 GMT -5
Was I the only one thinking this meant TNA would add Bigfoot tires to the ring and go mud bogging?
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Post by JTG Fan on Sept 17, 2013 14:42:50 GMT -5
Roads? Where TNA is going, they don't need roads. {Spoiler} just kidding, yes they do
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Sept 17, 2013 14:45:25 GMT -5
Why don't they just give up on a live audience and film in an empty soundstage with green screens round 3 sides (not needed on hard camera side) then they can impose any sort of venue they want in to the background. And they can control the sound of the crowd And they could put a number of post-produced CG stuff there. HULK HOGAN VS THE DRAGON, ONLY ON PAY-PER-VIEW! NO, SERIOUSLY, WE MEAN A LITERAL DRAGON! HE SPEWS FIRE AND SHIT!
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Sept 17, 2013 14:53:51 GMT -5
I never thought about Abyss naming his nail stick thing Janice until you posted that. I wonder if that is like an insider's thing like Debiase's man servant being named Virgil? Let's put it this way. The branding iron's name was Bob.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Sept 24, 2013 22:50:45 GMT -5
Not a terrible idea, but man nothing TNA tries ever works out does it?
Move to Mondays, back to Thursdays Goes to 8 pm, Moves back to 9pm Adds a pre-/after-show, loses the show Hires Scott Hall/ Fires Scott Hall
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Sept 24, 2013 22:54:41 GMT -5
It's pure struggle in TNA.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2013 11:03:18 GMT -5
I wanted TNA to go on the road and from a product standpoint I do think it helped, but it doesn't seem that TNA itself put much thought into the costs associated long term. It sounds more like Hogan/Bischoff telling Dixie that "this the next step" again. Things aren't looking good for TNA at the moment. Bully Ray did a radio show in January and he said one of the things holding TNA back was the Impact Zone and how they couldn't get organic crowd reactions week-to-week because of the crowds there (i.e. tourists, non-wrestling fans, etc). I'm willing to bet everyone in the company that cared about its growth, from management down to talent, wanted to go on the road. The concept was very good. The issue was obviously the lack of foresight when it came to cost. Honestly, if the Impact Zone had red hot crowds every week, then going on the road probably would have been less compelling. If TNA can find one place that has hot crowds every week, then go for it. Vegas, Orlando, whatever. I do like the idea someone here had of filming months of TV in one location, and then changing the location after a certain time frame. Like January to May is in Orlando, June to September is in Vegas, October to December is somewhere else, and keep rotating.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 25, 2013 12:59:29 GMT -5
I'm kind of at the point of calling TNA is a lost clause as long Dixie is running it because clearly she not and hasn't learned the concept of what makes a wrestling company successful. You can't have the same mentally of WCW and expect it to work. More so relaying on "Name" stars all the time. If you really focused on making someone a star instead of yoyo anyone who isn't a former WWE, ECW, or WCW talent. You likely have a great current base for the present into the future. If they focused from day one on Marketing and brand image instead of being all over the place. You more than likely again have way less issues.
Lets face the facts here. Years ago YEARS Impact TV ratings stuck at the same number. With little increases that ever stuck. .9 to 1.3 Is where that number as been for over 5 years now since going on Spike. Me, I would be wondering why isn't that 2.0 happening? What do I need to do to get that number higher. Or how can I make a PPV more successful? The answers are really simple because PPV success has been 90% booking.
Lets look at it. Ok, how many people do you think will order a PPV knowing that the real news happens on Impact? Think about the fest or Fired concept. PPV we find out who got a briefcase but it not until Impact we find out who got what. Remember RVD title win? Ok that happened the night after one of the big PPVs of the year without any advertisement or hype or a reason why the match itself happened in the first place. So that's going why order the PPVs if the title changes hands on TV. What was more sad that AJ was having this long title run and that's how they end it. Remember 2012 BFG. Bobby Roode losses what should have been a defining moment because BFG was there big PPV right? So he faces Angle and losses. A week later James Storm wins the title. Followed by Roode getting the title after a heel turn. BEFORE the next PPV. So again PPV goes meaningless.
How what about big dream matches that should headline the PPV that was given away. First time ever bouts like Joe vs. RVD, Joe vs. Jeff Hardy, RVD vs. AJ. All thrown on Impact without reason when you could have a money PPV match that wrote itself with the build. Giving the fans a reason to order. Instead the PPV match again RVD vs. AJ exampled we get the rematch. The whole point of TV is to build to the PPVs. TNA seems to do it the other way around. They need to make sure one people are aware they are there with marketing and make sure their is always a reason to order a PPV. If they done all of this it would equal more profit because more people would order a PPV knowing this is when something big will happen. More people that are aware more people will watch and a good product people will want to invest to go see it live.
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Post by Mesousa287793 on Sept 25, 2013 13:40:09 GMT -5
Guys, at least they tried as much as they could on going away from Orlando.
Oh wait, it's TNA, so smarks always have to s*** on them even if tried something that they originally wanted.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 25, 2013 14:44:45 GMT -5
Guys, at least they tried as much as they could on going away from Orlando. Oh wait, it's TNA, so smarks always have to s*** on them even if tried something that they originally wanted. If it failed, you can objectively say it failed with no malice at all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2013 15:13:14 GMT -5
Is the Showboat in Vegas available? They may have the old AWA ring still.
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