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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Sept 18, 2013 2:49:15 GMT -5
How about Barbarian's daughter? I think her name was Lady Tapa. Her and Ivelisse were really good in their Gut Check match, I thought both of them were getting signed. Both working OVW. They got called back for the Knockouts ppv but that was taped back in February and nothing else has come of it.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Sept 18, 2013 8:14:09 GMT -5
How about Barbarian's daughter? I think her name was Lady Tapa. Her and Ivelisse were really good in their Gut Check match, I thought both of them were getting signed. Both working OVW. They got called back for the Knockouts ppv but that was taped back in February and nothing else has come of it. Only Tapa is in OVW. TNA never signed Ivelisse to a contract. Velez is still a freelancer.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Sept 21, 2013 15:04:04 GMT -5
Serena Deeb, Ivelisse Vélez, Beth Phoenix, Maria Kanellis. I think Beth Phoenix is done with wrestling for the time being.
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Post by bootytea on Sept 21, 2013 21:52:43 GMT -5
Bring back Rosie Lottalove or some other chubby knockout.
I want to see a voluptuous knockout that attracts me instead of these athletic chicks that look too much like dolls for me.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 21, 2013 22:00:02 GMT -5
How about Barbarian's daughter? I think her name was Lady Tapa. Her and Ivelisse were really good in their Gut Check match, I thought both of them were getting signed. She's supposedly about to get 'called up' to fill the void in the Knockouts division. I'd love to see Rosita come back. Of course Awesome Kong would be a great pick-up. Who wouldn't love to see her resume her feud with Gail Kim?
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Sept 21, 2013 22:17:07 GMT -5
How about Leva Bates? She was briefly there as a spy for Aces & Eights and she helped them capture Hogan and Sting. Also she's cute as hell.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2013 22:23:30 GMT -5
Bring back Rosie Lottalove or some other chubby knockout. I want to see a voluptuous knockout that attracts me instead of these athletic chicks that look too much like dolls for me. I'd kind of like a middle ground between Gail Kim and Rosie Toomuchtolove. I guess that would be ODB, but she looks like a lizard.
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Post by ratetankmark on Sept 22, 2013 4:27:10 GMT -5
Mena Libra and Melanie Cruise.
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Post by SOR on Sept 22, 2013 5:28:00 GMT -5
Here's the problem guys:
Most of the women being suggested in this thread are simply good FEMALE wrestlers (Nothing compared to the good men wrestlers) and aren't marketable at all. To prove my point lets look at some of the names used on the first page.
Someone suggests Portia Perez, What makes Portia Perez different from Gail Kim as a character and from a marketing perspective? Absolutely zero. Someone suggested Candice Larae what makes her different from say Velvet Sky? Again, nothing. To hammer the point home what's the difference between Reby Sky and Tessmacher? Again nothing.
TNA needs to use their head in this situation. Good women's wrestling is not a draw so hiring a bunch of girls from a company that draws a few hundred every few months isn't smart. They already have hot chicks so hiring more hot chicks (However talented they may be) adds absolutely nothing to the product because people who want to see hot chicks already have that.
Here is who I would bring in:
Amazing Kong (She's different and moves well for a big woman. Has a massive attitude problem though so I'd probably skip her)
Christina Von Eerie (Again, she's different. She has the mo hawk she has the punk look and a lot of punk guys or girls could relate to her and get behind her)
Isis The Amazon (Probably the biggest women's wrestler ever and could destroy everyone in the division for a year or so before some plucky rookie takes her down. The fact she isn't working in the big time is amazing to me)
Apart from those three there really is nobody else that should get a run. I guess if you could pick up Kelly, Maria, Stacy Keibler, Torrie Wilson or someone like them with massive fan bases for cheap it could be worth it but I doubt any of them are coming cheap.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Sept 22, 2013 5:52:55 GMT -5
Jessie Mackay, Kellie Skater and Madison Eagles, put more Aussies on tv
not Shazza Mackenzie though shes mean
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Post by ratetankmark on Sept 22, 2013 5:55:10 GMT -5
I'd personally bring in Kay Lee Ray and Viper, both are very impressive for being so young (Apparently Viper's only 22) they both had a cracking match at ICW Fierce Females in Scotland, they both could be marketable with a bit of luck.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Sept 22, 2013 6:52:12 GMT -5
A couple of things to consider in the subject. TNA doesn't have the money to fly in international talent. TNA changed from marketing hot and unique women who can wrestle to hot women who shake their tits and ass for the perv cam. And TNA doesn't have money to pay for top flight female talent. Realistically, young, capable female wrestlers in the US currently who are desperate for a shot of fame is who they should be going after. TNA needs to hire at the minimum needs to hire 4 women to add to the current active 4 (Velvet and Brooke are gloried valets right now). At some point, the Blossom Twins and Lady Tapa are going to get moved to the active roster. Hire 3 more and rotate them out so we don't wind seeing the same 2 women every week.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Sept 22, 2013 10:12:26 GMT -5
Here's the problem guys: Most of the women being suggested in this thread are simply good FEMALE wrestlers (Nothing compared to the good men wrestlers) and aren't marketable at all. To prove my point lets look at some of the names used on the first page. Someone suggests Portia Perez, What makes Portia Perez different from Gail Kim as a character and from a marketing perspective? Absolutely zero. Someone suggested Candice Larae what makes her different from say Velvet Sky? Again, nothing. To hammer the point home what's the difference between Reby Sky and Tessmacher? Again nothing. TNA needs to use their head in this situation. Good women's wrestling is not a draw so hiring a bunch of girls from a company that draws a few hundred every few months isn't smart. They already have hot chicks so hiring more hot chicks (However talented they may be) adds absolutely nothing to the product because people who want to see hot chicks already have that. Here is who I would bring in: Amazing Kong (She's different and moves well for a big woman. Has a massive attitude problem though so I'd probably skip her) Christina Von Eerie (Again, she's different. She has the mo hawk she has the punk look and a lot of punk guys or girls could relate to her and get behind her) Isis The Amazon (Probably the biggest women's wrestler ever and could destroy everyone in the division for a year or so before some plucky rookie takes her down. The fact she isn't working in the big time is amazing to me) Apart from those three there really is nobody else that should get a run. I guess if you could pick up Kelly, Maria, Stacy Keibler, Torrie Wilson or someone like them with massive fan bases for cheap it could be worth it but I doubt any of them are coming cheap. I think you're overthinking the situation. Maybe a few years back back when TNA had nearly a dozen women on the roster they could afford to say "ok, you're a great wrestler, but what else do you bring to the table that we don't already have?", but right now the Knockouts roster is absolutely desolated. When you only have four active women (with Tessmacher pretty much a valet right now), you really don't have the luxury of being that picky. My suggestion would be to hire about four attractive, good wrestlers (try to keep it local once they have their new home figured out) and put them on television. If one or two of them build up a following then that's great, keep them, let the others go, start over again. But to dismiss girls simply because you don't think they bring anything unique to a division that has very little going for it right now anyways is just a disaster waiting to happen. Also, don't underestimated the appeal of "good woman wrestlers". Alyssa Flash, Taylor Wilde, Sarita, they really had nothing going for them besides being attractive and "good woman wrestlers", yet they were there when the division was at its peak and built sizeable fan followings during their TNA runs.
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Post by SOR on Sept 22, 2013 21:03:17 GMT -5
Here's the problem guys: Most of the women being suggested in this thread are simply good FEMALE wrestlers (Nothing compared to the good men wrestlers) and aren't marketable at all. To prove my point lets look at some of the names used on the first page. Someone suggests Portia Perez, What makes Portia Perez different from Gail Kim as a character and from a marketing perspective? Absolutely zero. Someone suggested Candice Larae what makes her different from say Velvet Sky? Again, nothing. To hammer the point home what's the difference between Reby Sky and Tessmacher? Again nothing. TNA needs to use their head in this situation. Good women's wrestling is not a draw so hiring a bunch of girls from a company that draws a few hundred every few months isn't smart. They already have hot chicks so hiring more hot chicks (However talented they may be) adds absolutely nothing to the product because people who want to see hot chicks already have that. Here is who I would bring in: Amazing Kong (She's different and moves well for a big woman. Has a massive attitude problem though so I'd probably skip her) Christina Von Eerie (Again, she's different. She has the mo hawk she has the punk look and a lot of punk guys or girls could relate to her and get behind her) Isis The Amazon (Probably the biggest women's wrestler ever and could destroy everyone in the division for a year or so before some plucky rookie takes her down. The fact she isn't working in the big time is amazing to me) Apart from those three there really is nobody else that should get a run. I guess if you could pick up Kelly, Maria, Stacy Keibler, Torrie Wilson or someone like them with massive fan bases for cheap it could be worth it but I doubt any of them are coming cheap. I think you're overthinking the situation. Maybe a few years back back when TNA had nearly a dozen women on the roster they could afford to say "ok, you're a great wrestler, but what else do you bring to the table that we don't already have?", but right now the Knockouts roster is absolutely desolated. When you only have four active women (with Tessmacher pretty much a valet right now), you really don't have the luxury of being that picky. My suggestion would be to hire about four attractive, good wrestlers (try to keep it local once they have their new home figured out) and put them on television. If one or two of them build up a following then that's great, keep them, let the others go, start over again. But to dismiss girls simply because you don't think they bring anything unique to a division that has very little going for it right now anyways is just a disaster waiting to happen. Also, don't underestimated the appeal of "good woman wrestlers". Alyssa Flash, Taylor Wilde, Sarita, they really had nothing going for them besides being attractive and "good woman wrestlers", yet they were there when the division was at its peak and built sizeable fan followings during their TNA runs. There's nothing different about the women being suggested though, you're just adding depth to a division which really doesn't need depth. The Knockouts get 5 or 6 minutes of TV time a week they don't have enough time to feature 8 women in that time. The appeal of the Knockouts should be to get people to tune in and make it can't miss TV. TNA fans already have good wrestling with AJ, Daniels, Kazarian, Joe and all the other great talents they have. The Knockouts need to offer something different then what the men do. If this means sexualising them (Has worked with Tessmacher) then so be it. If you offer them something they can't see over at WWE you're going to get interest. CVE, Isis, Kong etc are the way to do this. The sad reality of the situation is nobody cares if Velvet Sky and Gail Kim go out and have a great match. Just like the men they really need to work on their characters to get people to have an interest. Apart from ODB and Tessmacher nobody in the Knockouts division really has any character past being hot.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 23, 2013 12:53:43 GMT -5
Shanna, Naveah, Athena (if/when she's healthy)
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Post by dudebusterfan91 on Sept 23, 2013 15:26:31 GMT -5
I like 2 see angela fong if she is still wrestling she improving as got over in fcw and never got a shot in wwe
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2013 16:30:01 GMT -5
Here's the problem guys: Most of the women being suggested in this thread are simply good FEMALE wrestlers (Nothing compared to the good men wrestlers) and aren't marketable at all. To prove my point lets look at some of the names used on the first page. Someone suggests Portia Perez, What makes Portia Perez different from Gail Kim as a character and from a marketing perspective? Absolutely zero. Someone suggested Candice Larae what makes her different from say Velvet Sky? Again, nothing. To hammer the point home what's the difference between Reby Sky and Tessmacher? Again nothing. TNA needs to use their head in this situation. Good women's wrestling is not a draw so hiring a bunch of girls from a company that draws a few hundred every few months isn't smart. They already have hot chicks so hiring more hot chicks (However talented they may be) adds absolutely nothing to the product because people who want to see hot chicks already have that. Here is who I would bring in: Amazing Kong (She's different and moves well for a big woman. Has a massive attitude problem though so I'd probably skip her) Christina Von Eerie (Again, she's different. She has the mo hawk she has the punk look and a lot of punk guys or girls could relate to her and get behind her) Isis The Amazon (Probably the biggest women's wrestler ever and could destroy everyone in the division for a year or so before some plucky rookie takes her down. The fact she isn't working in the big time is amazing to me) Apart from those three there really is nobody else that should get a run. I guess if you could pick up Kelly, Maria, Stacy Keibler, Torrie Wilson or someone like them with massive fan bases for cheap it could be worth it but I doubt any of them are coming cheap. Hilarious. What makes Portia different from Gail? Literally everything. She's nothing like Gail. She's also snarky, sarcastic and easily identifiable. I like your suggestion of Kelly, Torrie and Stacy. All girls I'm a fan of but it's like you're all "Your choices are two generic! Take one of these three samey blondes instead!"
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Sept 23, 2013 20:14:41 GMT -5
Here's the problem guys: Most of the women being suggested in this thread are simply good FEMALE wrestlers (Nothing compared to the good men wrestlers) and aren't marketable at all. To prove my point lets look at some of the names used on the first page. Someone suggests Portia Perez, What makes Portia Perez different from Gail Kim as a character and from a marketing perspective? Absolutely zero. Someone suggested Candice Larae what makes her different from say Velvet Sky? Again, nothing. To hammer the point home what's the difference between Reby Sky and Tessmacher? Again nothing. TNA needs to use their head in this situation. Good women's wrestling is not a draw so hiring a bunch of girls from a company that draws a few hundred every few months isn't smart. They already have hot chicks so hiring more hot chicks (However talented they may be) adds absolutely nothing to the product because people who want to see hot chicks already have that. Here is who I would bring in: Amazing Kong (She's different and moves well for a big woman. Has a massive attitude problem though so I'd probably skip her) Christina Von Eerie (Again, she's different. She has the mo hawk she has the punk look and a lot of punk guys or girls could relate to her and get behind her) Isis The Amazon (Probably the biggest women's wrestler ever and could destroy everyone in the division for a year or so before some plucky rookie takes her down. The fact she isn't working in the big time is amazing to me) Apart from those three there really is nobody else that should get a run. I guess if you could pick up Kelly, Maria, Stacy Keibler, Torrie Wilson or someone like them with massive fan bases for cheap it could be worth it but I doubt any of them are coming cheap. Hilarious. What makes Portia different from Gail? Literally everything. She's nothing like Gail. She's also snarky, sarcastic and easily identifiable. I like your suggestion of Kelly, Torrie and Stacy. All girls I'm a fan of but it's like you're all "Your choices are two generic! Take one of these three samey blondes instead!" Especially when he says on the cheap. Kelly left on good terms with the WWE and, if she were to return to wrestling, she'd go where she'll actually get paid. The other two are out of the business and would cost too much for TNA to bring in. I just love how TNA could bring in talent from SHINE really cheap but don't. Sure a lot are nothing amazing but they're solid workers and most of them are young enough that they wouldn't command a lot of pay. Shanna, Naveah, Athena (if/when she's healthy) Shanna actually came second in her division of that big gutcheck tournament. Who gets a shot? The Big O who stunk it up.
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Post by SOR on Sept 23, 2013 20:58:41 GMT -5
Here's the problem guys: Most of the women being suggested in this thread are simply good FEMALE wrestlers (Nothing compared to the good men wrestlers) and aren't marketable at all. To prove my point lets look at some of the names used on the first page. Someone suggests Portia Perez, What makes Portia Perez different from Gail Kim as a character and from a marketing perspective? Absolutely zero. Someone suggested Candice Larae what makes her different from say Velvet Sky? Again, nothing. To hammer the point home what's the difference between Reby Sky and Tessmacher? Again nothing. TNA needs to use their head in this situation. Good women's wrestling is not a draw so hiring a bunch of girls from a company that draws a few hundred every few months isn't smart. They already have hot chicks so hiring more hot chicks (However talented they may be) adds absolutely nothing to the product because people who want to see hot chicks already have that. Here is who I would bring in: Amazing Kong (She's different and moves well for a big woman. Has a massive attitude problem though so I'd probably skip her) Christina Von Eerie (Again, she's different. She has the mo hawk she has the punk look and a lot of punk guys or girls could relate to her and get behind her) Isis The Amazon (Probably the biggest women's wrestler ever and could destroy everyone in the division for a year or so before some plucky rookie takes her down. The fact she isn't working in the big time is amazing to me) Apart from those three there really is nobody else that should get a run. I guess if you could pick up Kelly, Maria, Stacy Keibler, Torrie Wilson or someone like them with massive fan bases for cheap it could be worth it but I doubt any of them are coming cheap. Hilarious. What makes Portia different from Gail? Literally everything. She's nothing like Gail. She's also snarky, sarcastic and easily identifiable. I like your suggestion of Kelly, Torrie and Stacy. All girls I'm a fan of but it's like you're all "Your choices are two generic! Take one of these three samey blondes instead!" Gail could play a sarcastic, snarky heel also. I don't see your point? What makes Portia stand out to someone who is watching TNA on TV? Absolutely nothing. Kelly, Stacy and Torrie are generic hot chicks but they have massive fan bases. Hell, Torrie has 212,000 "likes" on Facebook for her official page. If TNA could get any of them cheap it'd be a good investment but I wouldn't throw massive money at them because they are nothing but a pretty face.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2013 0:58:15 GMT -5
Haha, as if anyone could actually predict who would be "marketable."
FB likes? That's like using Brooke's YouTube hits as a measuring stick.
If TNA ever learns, they need to see that buying stars isn't the answer. Former WWE divas will get them no where. Completely different environment,
As far as recommendations go, I'd say Perez is a good pick. She's got that it factor that WWE tried to force onto bikini models, plus she can actually wrestle and is easy in the eyes.
I'd also see what the Euro market has to offer, since TNA allegedly does well there.
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