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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 22:27:05 GMT -5
The only reason I can think of for Ryder being there is so that HHH will have someone inconsequential to make an example of. I thought of that, but the issue I have with that explanation is that it implies HHH would prefer singling out one person as an example as opposed to a large group for a large shovel. I figure that he'll get a few of them, try to get the others but they somehow escape,and Ryder is too dumb/unlucky to get away.
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Post by Phil Parent on Sept 16, 2013 22:27:25 GMT -5
The pay off to the feud is seeing the hated bad guys finally get trashed. That is how it works. Exactly! Wrestling Booking 101! The idea is that the most heel heat you can get for an angle, the bigger the pop is gonna be when the faces get one up on them. This is how wrestling has always worked before cool heels became the norm with the NWO and Austin / Rock / DX. Now next week, they have places to go. Do they fire the guys that run-in? They could get away with not using those guys for a couple weeks, NXT has lots of guys plus they'll seemingly have a Rhodes VS Rhodes next week or the one after that, so that occupies some time. And for the house show circuit, they can use the old "They will fulfill their obligations before leaving" type of deal. Or does the roster stand up to the regime some more and go on strike or something? Once you start to deflate that heat balloon with the babyface getting the better of the heels, you start the countdown to the heat being gone, and you got to get as many ratings/ticket sells/PPV buys in before the crowd start to want to see something else. Now of course, I still maintain my idea that this is the time for Cena to go heel, at Survivor Series, Team Regime VS Team Yes, a man from Team Yes goes down before the match, match starts as an handicap match, gets down to Bryan VS HHH or Bryan VS Orton; Cena returns, AA's Bryan, reunites with his co-generate Orton and now you can have a generational war between the guys from Cena & Orton's era, backed by the office, and the guys from Bryan's era, backed by the fans. CENA & BRYAN DO NOT TOUCH UNTIL WRESTLEMANIA! The blow off happens at WrestleMania, Bryan wins. And then maybe Cena comes back to the good side, and you got a new season starting the next day. Here you go creative, I just wrote your next 6 months.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Sept 16, 2013 22:29:20 GMT -5
I thought of that, but the issue I have with that explanation is that it implies HHH would prefer singling out one person as an example as opposed to a large group for a large shovel. I figure that he'll get a few of them, try to get the others but they somehow escape,and Ryder is too dumb/unlucky to get away. "Ryder quick, jump on the Yesmobile!" [Ryder notices that the Yesmobile has a flat tire and changes it so they can escape. He is caught by Triple H as the others escape in a strangely well directed action scene as though not being physically present prevented the WWE from firing them.]
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Sept 16, 2013 22:32:06 GMT -5
The main event was a little clunky in spots, which I kind of expected with Reigns in a singles match, but it definitely picked up near the end.
And yeah, I was definitely happy with that ending.
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Post by "American Nightmare" B.B. Bart on Sept 16, 2013 22:34:04 GMT -5
I like the subtle touch of the roster appearing backstage when Show was escorting Duthty out to the ambulance, then later when we see them wishing Bryan luck before the main event. Those almost laid the seeds for the epic finish.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 22:34:29 GMT -5
The pay off to the feud is seeing the hated bad guys finally get trashed. That is how it works. It hasn't worked like that in so long, it's like they forgot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 22:35:34 GMT -5
I like the subtle touch of the roster appearing backstage when Show was escorting Duthty out to the ambulance, then later when we see them wishing Bryan luck before the main event. Those almost laid the seeds for the epic finish. Yeah, I did like where it was the same people in each of those three big group appearances. Set up the finish very well.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Sept 16, 2013 22:37:30 GMT -5
Something else about this we haven't thought of yet? That ending in turn just made Smackdown a must-see show (or at least its spoilers a must-read). Because there will be something from HHH this Friday night.
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Post by "American Nightmare" B.B. Bart on Sept 16, 2013 23:01:56 GMT -5
I think this is where the angle escalates to the next phase. We've had the weeks of NuCorporation putting their foot down and stomping on everyone, now comes the part where everyone decides enough is enough and it's time for a change.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 2:16:49 GMT -5
I think this is where the angle escalates to the next phase. We've had the weeks of NuCorporation putting their foot down and stomping on everyone, now comes the part where everyone decides enough is enough and it's time for a change. The faces drew their line in the sand and now it's time for Triple H to match their numbers. Shit's gonna get really crazy and I hope WWE can keep it compelling and not lose momentum, there look like there are gonna be a lot of moving parts here, and there already were. They've been doing great so far. I do not know how anyone could turn this show down, it was so full of life from the very start.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 2:21:02 GMT -5
I think this is where the angle escalates to the next phase. We've had the weeks of NuCorporation putting their foot down and stomping on everyone, now comes the part where everyone decides enough is enough and it's time for a change. Who yells, "You turned your backs on me!"?
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Post by nate5054 on Sept 17, 2013 4:01:59 GMT -5
The ending was amazing, and this is from a guy who usually likes the heels much better than the faces. It was just so nice to see the faces (well at least a lot of them) band together and not see Bryan get his ass kicked again.
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Post by nate5054 on Sept 17, 2013 4:02:58 GMT -5
That wouldn't have been half as satisfying if it had happened the week after the first beat down. That really benefited from the month of screwjobs. I agree, but I'm glad they didn't push it past tonight. There's a fine line between letting something build and letting it go to far. It seems like they hit the sweet spot with this one here.
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Post by Chip on Sept 17, 2013 4:26:06 GMT -5
Now of course, I still maintain my idea that this is the time for Cena to go heel, at Survivor Series, Team Regime VS Team Yes, a man from Team Yes goes down before the match, match starts as an handicap match, gets down to Bryan VS HHH or Bryan VS Orton; Cena returns, AA's Bryan, reunites with his co-generate Orton and now you can have a generational war between the guys from Cena & Orton's era, backed by the office, and the guys from Bryan's era, backed by the fans. Whilst this is nice in theory, you can't expect anybody to boo Cena for attacking Bryan. Cena isn't going to be a simple turn, it's going to take something major to get any of his fans to boo him.
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Sept 17, 2013 4:36:40 GMT -5
Why the hell did Kofi Kingston still eat a spear?
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Sept 17, 2013 5:21:36 GMT -5
Why the hell did Kofi Kingston still eat a spear? Because Kofi can never do a save correctly.
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Post by HBL on Sept 17, 2013 6:02:01 GMT -5
Thought it was a bad show overall,but the ending definitely made up for it. Marked out hard.
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Post by Sephiroth on Sept 17, 2013 7:02:51 GMT -5
The pay off to the feud is seeing the hated bad guys finally get trashed. That is how it works. It hasn't worked like that in so long, it's like they forgot. They didn't forget. They were dragging it out to make the pay off that much sweeter.
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Post by Sephiroth on Sept 17, 2013 7:06:03 GMT -5
The pay off to the feud is seeing the hated bad guys finally get trashed. That is how it works. Exactly! Wrestling Booking 101! The idea is that the most heel heat you can get for an angle, the bigger the pop is gonna be when the faces get one up on them. This is how wrestling has always worked before cool heels became the norm with the NWO and Austin / Rock / DX. Now next week, they have places to go. Do they fire the guys that run-in? They could get away with not using those guys for a couple weeks, NXT has lots of guys plus they'll seemingly have a Rhodes VS Rhodes next week or the one after that, so that occupies some time. And for the house show circuit, they can use the old "They will fulfill their obligations before leaving" type of deal. Or does the roster stand up to the regime some more and go on strike or something? Once you start to deflate that heat balloon with the babyface getting the better of the heels, you start the countdown to the heat being gone, and you got to get as many ratings/ticket sells/PPV buys in before the crowd start to want to see something else. Now of course, I still maintain my idea that this is the time for Cena to go heel, at Survivor Series, Team Regime VS Team Yes, a man from Team Yes goes down before the match, match starts as an handicap match, gets down to Bryan VS HHH or Bryan VS Orton; Cena returns, AA's Bryan, reunites with his co-generate Orton and now you can have a generational war between the guys from Cena & Orton's era, backed by the office, and the guys from Bryan's era, backed by the fans. CENA & BRYAN DO NOT TOUCH UNTIL WRESTLEMANIA! The blow off happens at WrestleMania, Bryan wins. And then maybe Cena comes back to the good side, and you got a new season starting the next day. Here you go creative, I just wrote your next 6 months. Actually I'm guessing that next the heat will be on Big Show; they will order him to take the rest of the roster out, he will cry some more, and will finally join the rest of the fed in standing up to them.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 17, 2013 7:14:11 GMT -5
I dunno about DX in it's first form, but the other 3 all had moments like last night. Look up the ending to Uncensored 97 when Sting finally attacks the nWo... or when DDP gave Hall the Diamond Cutter... or Luger upsetting Hogan. The Rock also got moments like last night quite a few times.
I like how they actually showed this building up as the night went. I think now you'll see some heels start to join Triple H (probably Real Americans and ADR)
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