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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 27, 2013 11:06:27 GMT -5
Totally agree with that, even if he didn't bring up his ex every few minutes he still wouldn't be any good. Like Mine Führer said he's not enthusiastic enough, doesn't bring any expert knowledge apart from the basic tag strategy he learned with The Miz and worst of all acts like he's above everyone, if Regal is happy to say that certain people on the roster are his equal/ better than him then Riley shouldn't act like he's above everybody. I'm another that thinks he'd be better off in the ring even if it is at the bottom of the card. While I disagree with the "not enthusiastic enough" and the "thinks he's above everybody" part (I don't know how a wrestler who's been pretty much banished/demoted to commentary could develop such an ego), I do agree that he doesn't bring a lot of expert knowledge. This is not really through any fault of his own though. I'd like to make this point, but I feel that my obvious love of Riley makes it come across as unobjective. If WWE insists on using him as a color commentator in the future, they would be better served to allow Riley to continue to live out his in-ring career so that he can gain more experience and more knowledge to draw upon in the booth. I've always got the feeling that Riley's limitations, both at the announce desk AND in the ring stem from WWE's refusal to properly use him. He has limited knowledge because they aren't letting him get as much experience as he should. Even in comparison to his fellow low card peers, Riley seems underexposed.
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Post by Bo Rida on Sept 27, 2013 11:17:19 GMT -5
Oh I should say the above everybody part is a little unfair and only for NXT, it may be nitpicking but it bothers me as it's basically the same as Bo Dallas acting like the veteran, although there is some kayfabe justification due to him being on the main roster.
Like you say if he had more experience in the ring then it wouldn't matter as much, it's just a problem when he talks about Zayn like a rookie when he's been wrestling longer than him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 11:21:42 GMT -5
I've been hoping for a woman on commentary for a bit now. PYT Renee Young would be a great choice - she effuses professionalism and seriousness in everything I've seen her do, in a very real way. I think pairing her with a more seasoned announcer would work until she gets her feet wet. But yeah, the commentary team right now is 2.5 shades of stupid and the onscreen stuff really gets handicapped by it sometimes (which it definitely doesn't need right now). Like you say she could do with a regular pairing with a veteran and I think Regal would be the ideal partner This paring would make NXT too good. People would forget RAW & SD even exist, ratings would plummet, USA & Sci-Fi would cancel them. WWE would destory itself from the inside if this were allowed to happen. It is that good.
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Post by Kayfabe FAN don't want none on Sept 27, 2013 11:56:23 GMT -5
"Download the WWE APP to watch FLASHBACK OF ME TAGGING WITH MIZ! REMEMBER THAT?! IT WAS AWESOME LIKE SERIOUSLY, TOTALLY ME AND MIZ WERE LIKE WOAH! WATCH IT PLEASE I BEG YOU TO REMEMBER MY RELEVANCE"
Renee. YES YES YES!
Riley. NO NO NO!
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Post by Raskovnik on Sept 27, 2013 12:24:47 GMT -5
Riley deserves so much better. I just cant accept him as being just a commentator. I like and respect him too much. I want to see him putting on fun matches and hyping up the crowd. Like i would enjoy the product so much more if Riley were allowed to have a respectable part in it. I think it's really cool that you're a member of the FAN community, Alex. I love your theme song and your explosive in-ring style and I'm a little bit mad that you haven't been in a significant storyline for like over two years.
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 27, 2013 12:56:45 GMT -5
You have shipped them and now tumblr are mad because they shipped renee with sami zayn
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Sept 27, 2013 13:09:30 GMT -5
You have shipped them and now tumblr are mad because they shipped renee with sami zayn Name the people who ship my Renee. I will break them.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Sept 27, 2013 13:10:38 GMT -5
You have shipped them and now tumblr are mad because they shipped renee with sami zayn Name the people who ship my Renee. I will break them. Daniel Bryan.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 27, 2013 13:40:29 GMT -5
Sounds good to me.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Sept 27, 2013 14:03:34 GMT -5
I know, dude. I just really like Riley, and it's so hard being a fan of the guy sometimes. I know it's pathetic. I just think that Riley is too young and has too much potential to be wasted as a full time commentator. He should be in the ring right now while he's still in his prime. If WWE insists on using him solely at the announce table, the least they can do for him is give him a deal like Lawler's where he can wrestle indy shows on the side over the weekend. Riley deserves better than to go down in wrestling history as a never was who got banished to the announce table, It's practically a crime that Riley has won no titles in his career I just want the guy to be successful. Riley deserves better than to be a "never was" who never got a fair shot to make something out of himself. Plus I honestly feel that the only way that Riley will shut up about Miz is if they give him something else to talk about. Riley got more than a fair shot. He got thrust into a major program with Miz, and started being included in main-event tag matches with the likes of John Cena. Problem is, all of his weaknesses became exposed on that bigger stage, and also far too many of his peers are much better than him. Riley's strong suit is talking, and they found a place for him to do that with the commentary gig, very much like Matt Striker a few years ago. They could have outright cut the guy and not suffered any kind of loss whatsoever, but they found him a steady position in the company and he gets weekly air time. Not everyone who receives wrestling training is going to rise through the WWE ranks. A ton of guys don't ever make it. By placing Riley at the announce booth, they've saved him from becoming another Mark Jindrak/Matt Morgan/Eric Escobar/Gunner Scott/Sim Snuka/etc. I don't say any of that to be mean, mind you. I'm just saying that if he hadn't gotten the announcing job, he'd probably need to start looking for Funaki's old hiding place.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Sept 27, 2013 14:05:48 GMT -5
I would not want to listen to Renee Young's voice on commentary for 2-3 hours. Has nothing to do with her gender. There's other women who I would gladly listen to and I'd prefer a commentator to know more about wrestling than I do.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 27, 2013 15:27:39 GMT -5
I know, dude. I just really like Riley, and it's so hard being a fan of the guy sometimes. I know it's pathetic. I just think that Riley is too young and has too much potential to be wasted as a full time commentator. He should be in the ring right now while he's still in his prime. If WWE insists on using him solely at the announce table, the least they can do for him is give him a deal like Lawler's where he can wrestle indy shows on the side over the weekend. Riley deserves better than to go down in wrestling history as a never was who got banished to the announce table, It's practically a crime that Riley has won no titles in his career I just want the guy to be successful. Riley deserves better than to be a "never was" who never got a fair shot to make something out of himself. Plus I honestly feel that the only way that Riley will shut up about Miz is if they give him something else to talk about. Riley got more than a fair shot. He got thrust into a major program with Miz, and started being included in main-event tag matches with the likes of John Cena. Problem is, all of his weaknesses became exposed on that bigger stage, and also far too many of his peers are much better than him. Riley's strong suit is talking, and they found a place for him to do that with the commentary gig, very much like Matt Striker a few years ago. They could have outright cut the guy and not suffered any kind of loss whatsoever, but they found him a steady position in the company and he gets weekly air time. Not everyone who receives wrestling training is going to rise through the WWE ranks. A ton of guys don't ever make it. By placing Riley at the announce booth, they've saved him from becoming another Mark Jindrak/Matt Morgan/Eric Escobar/Gunner Scott/Sim Snuka/etc. I don't say any of that to be mean, mind you. I'm just saying that if he hadn't gotten the announcing job, he'd probably need to start looking for Funaki's old hiding place. Riley has come a long way in the ring since then. He's made massive improvements. If his peers are better than him, then of course they should be pushed to higher levels, but that doesnt mean Riley shouldnt continue having a wrestling career. Why cant Riley announce AND wrestle just like Miz is?
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Sept 27, 2013 15:42:25 GMT -5
Riley got more than a fair shot. He got thrust into a major program with Miz, and started being included in main-event tag matches with the likes of John Cena. Problem is, all of his weaknesses became exposed on that bigger stage, and also far too many of his peers are much better than him. Riley's strong suit is talking, and they found a place for him to do that with the commentary gig, very much like Matt Striker a few years ago. They could have outright cut the guy and not suffered any kind of loss whatsoever, but they found him a steady position in the company and he gets weekly air time. Not everyone who receives wrestling training is going to rise through the WWE ranks. A ton of guys don't ever make it. By placing Riley at the announce booth, they've saved him from becoming another Mark Jindrak/Matt Morgan/Eric Escobar/Gunner Scott/Sim Snuka/etc. I don't say any of that to be mean, mind you. I'm just saying that if he hadn't gotten the announcing job, he'd probably need to start looking for Funaki's old hiding place. Riley has come a long way in the ring since then. He's made massive improvements. If his peers are better than him, then of course they should be pushed to higher levels, but that doesnt mean Riley shouldnt continue having a wrestling career. Why cant Riley announce AND wrestle just like Miz is? Miz is worth more exposure, because he's a much bigger star. Riley is lucky to have a job, and not because of his talent or lack thereof. He's lucky to have a job because WWE cuts guys in his position every year. This commentary thing is going to give him a safety net that someone like JTG would be blessed to have.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 27, 2013 16:50:18 GMT -5
^I agree with the general idea that Riley is "better off than JTG" and lucky to be on TV every week. I agree that there are other guys on the roster who may or may not be better or more valuable than Riley, and that those guys should get more TV time and pushes.
But what I cant accept is him being phased out of the ring entirely and forced to sit on the sidelines and pretty much waste the prime years of his life when he still has some potential.
Like i said earlier, he brings very little insight to the booth due to limited experience. WWE needs to let him go in the ring, gain that experience so he has that wisdom to bring to the announce table in the future.
Theres no reason why he cant have at least one short filler match a week when others are having 3-4 lengthier ones. Cut back on the BS and let Riley have a little bit of tme to shine. Cut back on the Miz injury angles so that Riley is free to compete on Main Event. Just because has less worth doesn't mean he should be made to seem worthless.
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