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Post by CMWaters on Sept 29, 2013 15:35:12 GMT -5
All right, in WWE recently, we've had "The Numbers Game" play into things a lot.
Shield getting numbers advantages a lot of times.
Axel and Ryback being able to take out CM Punk thanks to outnumbering him.
The 11-3 Handicap Match allowing the WWE Roster to get some payback on The Shield.
Going back further, Nexus dominating all in their path being a group of 7.
...but then you have 3MB, who have often had numbers advantages, but even so get made to look like chumps.
Am I the only one who laughs at this inconsistancy in booking?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2013 15:39:14 GMT -5
I hope we turn the corner where 3MB suddenly start beating the shit out of people using a good numbers game while still being goofy and people just kinda do a double-take wondering when the hell 3MB got dangerous.
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Post by CMWaters on Sept 29, 2013 15:42:49 GMT -5
I hope we turn the corner where 3MB suddenly start beating the shit out of people using a good numbers game while still being goofy and people just kinda do a double-take wondering when the hell 3MB got dangerous. So in other words, get to how they were before the 6 man tag against Miz, Del Rio and Brawler.
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 29, 2013 16:04:40 GMT -5
3MB are my favorite job squad
I kind of want them to get a push
Switch tof heel
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Post by FinalGwen on Sept 29, 2013 16:10:19 GMT -5
It is bizarre that they're treated as so weak. I mean, I understand they're on the lower side of the card, but Drew's a really big guy with powerful offence (and the best Big Boot since Test), surprising agility, and Heath's got victories over Chris Jericho and Edge, and Jinder's also perfectly capable in-ring, but I'm supposed to believe they're completely useless and can't beat anyone?
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Post by CMWaters on Sept 29, 2013 16:13:22 GMT -5
It is bizarre that they're treated as so weak. I mean, I understand they're on the lower side of the card, but Drew's a really big guy with powerful offence (and the best Big Boot since Test), surprising agility, and Heath's got victories over Chris Jericho and Edge, and Jinder's also perfectly capable in-ring, but I'm supposed to believe they're completely useless and can't beat anyone? Maybe Kayfabe wise we're suppossed to think that their partying and rock and roll lifestyle effects their ring performances?
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Post by CH Punk on Sept 29, 2013 16:16:15 GMT -5
The point is that even if they have an advantage, they're too idiotic/inept/busy-pretending-to-be-rockstars to actually use it.
And the problem is that with The Wyatts and The Shield, 3MB (despite being the first of the three man factions) are relegated to jobbers because three "dominating" groups would be overkill.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2013 16:21:54 GMT -5
3Mb failz 4 life because HHH makes a point to belittle them in his roster speeches.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2013 16:23:05 GMT -5
I hope we turn the corner where 3MB suddenly start beating the shit out of people using a good numbers game while still being goofy and people just kinda do a double-take wondering when the hell 3MB got dangerous. So in other words, get to how they were before the 6 man tag against Miz, Del Rio and Brawler. Eh, I don't see why not. I get WWE doesn't give a shit about the undercard so we're not supposed to either, but man... You can't put those guys on a main show to give Justin Gabriel or Alex Riley have some feuds or something to do? It's kinda like the Wyatt Family.
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Post by wallabylikeyou on Sept 29, 2013 16:24:58 GMT -5
They're a faction led by Heath Slater. Slater's skill is making other guys look good. They're not going to win much.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2013 21:21:48 GMT -5
They need to start hitting people with instruments. How has Jinder not put someone's face through a bass drum yet?
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Post by EyeofTyr on Sept 29, 2013 21:43:06 GMT -5
Honestly, as much as I love 3MB, I don't want them to get a push.
Or, rather, I want them to maintain the push they have. 3MB is typically featured fairly heavily for a mid-card act. They are one of the go to acts to be seen backstage in the background, to be involved in big group things, to be fed to top acts.
It might not be as glamorous as CM Punk's four hundred and yadda, yadda WWE title reign, but it's something. It's more than what alot of the undercard gets, save guys like Ryder and Kofi, who are essentially the babyface equivalents of the 3MB.
I think part of their charm, and part of the gimmick, would be lost if they suddenly become killing machines.
That said, I do eventually want Drew to break away from the others and take his rightful place as an upper card act in the WWE. In fact, I'd love the idea if they continue the 3MB for years to come, with Heath consistently replacing whoever bolts from the group. Turning him slowly but surely into the WWE version of Axel Rose.
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Post by CMWaters on Sept 29, 2013 21:59:05 GMT -5
Honestly, as much as I love 3MB, I don't want them to get a push. Or, rather, I want them to maintain the push they have. 3MB is typically featured fairly heavily for a mid-card act. They are one of the go to acts to be seen backstage in the background, to be involved in big group things, to be fed to top acts. It might not be as glamorous as CM Punk's four hundred and yadda, yadda WWE title reign, but it's something. It's more than what alot of the undercard gets, save guys like Ryder and Kofi, who are essentially the babyface equivalents of the 3MB. I think part of their charm, and part of the gimmick, would be lost if they suddenly become killing machines. That said, I do eventually want Drew to break away from the others and take his rightful place as an upper card act in the WWE. In fact, I'd love the idea if they continue the 3MB for years to come, with Heath consistently replacing whoever bolts from the group. Turning him slowly but surely into the WWE version of Axel Rose. Replace Drew, who gets a push, with Yoshi Tatsu. Not like Tatsu could go any lower, so 3MB would be a step up for him.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Sept 29, 2013 22:02:00 GMT -5
Honestly, as much as I love 3MB, I don't want them to get a push. Or, rather, I want them to maintain the push they have. 3MB is typically featured fairly heavily for a mid-card act. They are one of the go to acts to be seen backstage in the background, to be involved in big group things, to be fed to top acts. It might not be as glamorous as CM Punk's four hundred and yadda, yadda WWE title reign, but it's something. It's more than what alot of the undercard gets, save guys like Ryder and Kofi, who are essentially the babyface equivalents of the 3MB. I think part of their charm, and part of the gimmick, would be lost if they suddenly become killing machines. That said, I do eventually want Drew to break away from the others and take his rightful place as an upper card act in the WWE. In fact, I'd love the idea if they continue the 3MB for years to come, with Heath consistently replacing whoever bolts from the group. Turning him slowly but surely into the WWE version of Axel Rose. Replace Drew, who gets a push, with Yoshi Tatsu. Not like Tatsu could go any lower, so 3MB would be a step up for him. I'd actually really enjoy that. Keeps the overall shtick alive, gives somebody talented like Tatsu something to do, and would play off of a prediction I know alot of people had before Jinder was confirmed for the group. As alot of people thought Yoshi was bound for the group.
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Post by CH Punk on Sept 29, 2013 22:17:04 GMT -5
Honestly, as much as I love 3MB, I don't want them to get a push. Or, rather, I want them to maintain the push they have. 3MB is typically featured fairly heavily for a mid-card act. They are one of the go to acts to be seen backstage in the background, to be involved in big group things, to be fed to top acts. It might not be as glamorous as CM Punk's four hundred and yadda, yadda WWE title reign, but it's something. It's more than what alot of the undercard gets, save guys like Ryder and Kofi, who are essentially the babyface equivalents of the 3MB. I think part of their charm, and part of the gimmick, would be lost if they suddenly become killing machines. That said, I do eventually want Drew to break away from the others and take his rightful place as an upper card act in the WWE. In fact, I'd love the idea if they continue the 3MB for years to come, with Heath consistently replacing whoever bolts from the group. Turning him slowly but surely into the WWE version of Axel Rose. Replace Drew, who gets a push, with Yoshi Tatsu. Not like Tatsu could go any lower, so 3MB would be a step up for him. Nope, Yoshi knows how to play guitar. And, by that same token, expect Jinder to get kicked out of the new 2MB tag team.
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Post by Chip on Sept 29, 2013 22:31:08 GMT -5
Honestly, as much as I love 3MB, I don't want them to get a push. Or, rather, I want them to maintain the push they have. 3MB is typically featured fairly heavily for a mid-card act. They are one of the go to acts to be seen backstage in the background, to be involved in big group things, to be fed to top acts. It might not be as glamorous as CM Punk's four hundred and yadda, yadda WWE title reign, but it's something. It's more than what alot of the undercard gets, save guys like Ryder and Kofi, who are essentially the babyface equivalents of the 3MB. I think part of their charm, and part of the gimmick, would be lost if they suddenly become killing machines. That said, I do eventually want Drew to break away from the others and take his rightful place as an upper card act in the WWE. In fact, I'd love the idea if they continue the 3MB for years to come, with Heath consistently replacing whoever bolts from the group. Turning him slowly but surely into the WWE version of Axel Rose. Replace Drew, who gets a push, with Yoshi Tatsu. Not like Tatsu could go any lower, so 3MB would be a step up for him. Whilst I love Drew, I honestly feel like Heath should be the one to fly solo. Drew got a shot to be something major and it didn't really work out. The one time Heath was given a shot to prove he can be a solo act was the Legends deal which personally was one of the most entertaining things on RAW that year. That and I desperately want him to get the IC title and have a Honky Tonk-esque run with it.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Sept 29, 2013 22:37:22 GMT -5
Replace Drew, who gets a push, with Yoshi Tatsu. Not like Tatsu could go any lower, so 3MB would be a step up for him. Whilst I love Drew, I honestly feel like Heath should be the one to fly solo. Drew got a shot to be something major and it didn't really work out. The one time Heath was given a shot to prove he can be a solo act was the Legends deal which personally was one of the most entertaining things on RAW that year. That and I desperately want him to get the IC title and have a Honky Tonk-esque run with it. Thing is, Heath isn't that great on the mic. I mean, he hasn't really improved since his NXT days. The only difference is that they now hide that weakness by having others carry the workload and having him be comedic, rather than trying to be some serious big shot. Similarly, Heath is honestly kind of mediocre in terms of in ring talent. Something else the group helps hide. What Heath is good at is getting his butt kicked, is selling. But unlike Ambrose or Ziggler, who are also good at this, he doesn't have anything else to help make him more rounded of a wrestler and back it up. In my opinion, they gave Heath his chance. His NXT run where he was one of the strongest booked there, the Nexus initially when he was one of the few who could get the job done outside of the group efforts. But it never stuck. What did was when they highlighted what he was good at, getting his butt kicked, and there's no shame in that either. Similar with Jinder and his pushes in the past. Mean while, when they actually let Drew go all out, he excelled. Thing is, they for some reason then immediately pulled the plug on him after over a year of pushing him relentlessly but not letting him do all he could to catch on. He proved he is a good seller, like the other two, but also can have devastating and entertaining offense, and can be good to great on the mic.
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Post by Chip on Sept 29, 2013 22:49:31 GMT -5
Mean while, when they actually let Drew go all out, he excelled. Thing is, they for some reason then immediately pulled the plug on him after over a year of pushing him relentlessly but not letting him do all he could to catch on. He proved he is a good seller, like the other two, but also can have devastating and entertaining offense, and can be good to great on the mic. Gotta be honest, Drews big IC title push was right around when I first started watching the product properly. What I remember most was Drew being the single most boring thing on Smackdown week to week, it wasn't until his Elimination Chamber performance that made think he was badass.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Sept 29, 2013 23:02:44 GMT -5
Mean while, when they actually let Drew go all out, he excelled. Thing is, they for some reason then immediately pulled the plug on him after over a year of pushing him relentlessly but not letting him do all he could to catch on. He proved he is a good seller, like the other two, but also can have devastating and entertaining offense, and can be good to great on the mic. Gotta be honest, Drews big IC title push was right around when I first started watching the product properly. What I remember most was Drew being the single most boring thing on Smackdown week to week, it wasn't until his Elimination Chamber performance that made think he was badass. Yeah, that was pretty much what I was getting at. When they held him back and limited his moveset, he was dull as dishwater for the most part. When he was allowed to let loose, like at Elimination Chamber, he was on fire and amazing. Much like how he was in developmental and pre-WWE.
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Post by CMWaters on Sept 29, 2013 23:08:25 GMT -5
Gotta be honest, Drews big IC title push was right around when I first started watching the product properly. What I remember most was Drew being the single most boring thing on Smackdown week to week, it wasn't until his Elimination Chamber performance that made think he was badass. Yeah, that was pretty much what I was getting at. When they held him back and limited his moveset, he was dull as dishwater for the most part. When he was allowed to let loose, like at Elimination Chamber, he was on fire and amazing. Much like how he was in developmental and pre-WWE. Or promo wise, like this.
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