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Post by Medicinal Thunder Liger on Oct 11, 2013 8:32:46 GMT -5
terry gordy would destroy all your legitimate "shooters"
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Post by rybackrulez on Oct 11, 2013 11:47:12 GMT -5
I agree, people should try and tell Vader that wrestling is fake, I'm sure he'll inform them of the toll it has taken on his body and those of his friends in the business as he's supposedly a sensitive man when not playing the Vader character. Guy worked stiff because that's the style he was trained to work, not because he's a JBL/Bob Holly/Nasty Boys style jackass who thinks wresting is real or just likes taking potshots at people. Jbl was trained to be stiff as most big stan hansen styled brawlers are and he worked a ton in japan, germany, and mexico if you weren't stiff they would not respect you Bob holly was chris benoit's favorite travelling partner How would terry gordy fare against bobby lashley or brock lesnar though?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Oct 11, 2013 16:21:52 GMT -5
I agree, people should try and tell Vader that wrestling is fake, I'm sure he'll inform them of the toll it has taken on his body and those of his friends in the business as he's supposedly a sensitive man when not playing the Vader character. Guy worked stiff because that's the style he was trained to work, not because he's a JBL/Bob Holly/Nasty Boys style jackass who thinks wresting is real or just likes taking potshots at people. He was trained by Brad Rheingans, same guy who trained both Nasty Boys *and* JBL. Also, a lot of guys who've worked with him will tell you differently on how he conducts himself in the ring. There was a time in his WCW days where he was just as bad as anyone so far as stiffing unwitting opponents. "Working stiff" is only an excuse when the opponent - the partner - is okay with it. If the opponent doesn't work stiff, then you don't. Vader was just as guilty of this, more so even, than Holly or JBL ever were.
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Post by rybackrulez on Oct 11, 2013 23:14:20 GMT -5
Vader legit broke a guy's back with a powerbomb
Put Bob Holly in All Japan and he would be over huge
A lot guys get a "break" from the iwc because they worked that stiff japanese style.
Vader tried shit in wcw with tougher guys and wouldn't do anything when they stood up to him.
Hell mick foley destroyed him with a shovel because of the fear instilled in him by harley race
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Post by skulldouggory on Oct 15, 2013 16:58:42 GMT -5
Just to be clear I am not saying Vader isn't tough, but don't put him next to Haku when you are listing tough wrestlers.
There are guys who boast how tough they are in the wrestling business but then whine when they get stiffed back and then there are guys who don't say anything and would rather keep there exploits quiet (so they don't get arrested for assault), but their legend lives through other wrestlers calling them tough.
And going back to the original post, Ive watched countless shoot interviews and from what i have heard wrestlers usually just brush off when a fan calls it fake to their faces since they hear it non stop, it's when a drunk fan wants to test a wrestler that they get knocked out. Wrestlers know they aren't above the law, and know their high profiles would lead them getting spotted easily to police by fans, so they know only to punk a guy out if he takes the first shot.
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