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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2013 2:16:57 GMT -5
considering the budget cutter is in play, they wont get much.
But if lawsuits keep poping up, the Carters might just get rid of TNA.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 13, 2013 5:53:27 GMT -5
When Shark Boy said he was going to be the death of TNA, they should had took him seriously.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Oct 13, 2013 6:05:05 GMT -5
Either Jesse or Crimson, I'm going to go with Crimson as he seemed particularly upset with his treatment given how he'd gone to OVW only to get fired nce he was brought back. He was talking about needing surgery he can't afford after his release, if I remember correctly.
If they are suing over the independent contractor status, I imagine the WWE will be keeping a very close eye on it because any precedent set could screw up their own shady arrangement where they have people working full time with no benefits and can dictate how they dress and act when not on the clock. That said, they would have a harder time claiming TNA are treating them as full time employees given how they're given time to pursue outside projects, can pick and choose which non televised dates they work as well as being able to appear for other wrestling companies, even if the terms for working those dates are unreasonable.
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Post by CrazySting on Oct 13, 2013 9:58:51 GMT -5
Either Jesse or Crimson, I'm going to go with Crimson as he seemed particularly upset with his treatment given how he'd gone to OVW only to get fired nce he was brought back. He was talking about needing surgery he can't afford after his release, if I remember correctly. If they are suing over the independent contractor status, I imagine the WWE will be keeping a very close eye on it because any precedent set could screw up their own shady arrangement where they have people working full time with no benefits and can dictate how they dress and act when not on the clock. That said, they would have a harder time claiming TNA are treating them as full time employees given how they're given time to pursue outside projects, can pick and choose which non televised dates they work as well as being able to appear for other wrestling companies, even if the terms for working those dates are unreasonable. Around the time the Daffney case was wrapping up, Dave Meltzer made a point of saying Vince would have a heart attack if a US court found a wrestler to be an employee. Yeah, it might be a different company, but this totally affects WWE. Vince might buy them just to avoid this happening in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2013 10:10:32 GMT -5
Hostage taking bird sprained his talon while intimidating Bischoff and TNA never paid for it.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Oct 13, 2013 11:07:56 GMT -5
I don't know if I would want my lawyer talking about cases on his facebook. Typically, no, but in this case they're trying to make everyone aware of it.
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Post by Kayfabe FAN don't want none on Oct 13, 2013 12:43:48 GMT -5
It's ... IT'S SABUUUU!!!!1111
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Post by y4j1981 on Oct 13, 2013 14:05:34 GMT -5
...On the independent contractor deal. From the facebook of Christian Garstin, the lawyer who defended Daffney and Scott Steiner in various court actions. Sorensen? who "took it to the brink and farther than any other wrestler in history has been willing and/or able to do" more: Daffney in TNA or Raven, Kanyon, and Mike Sanders in WWE?
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Post by Hawk Hart on Oct 13, 2013 14:10:12 GMT -5
It's New Jack!
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Oct 13, 2013 14:53:12 GMT -5
]Around the time the Daffney case was wrapping up, Dave Meltzer made a point of saying Vince would have a heart attack if a US court found a wrestler to be an employee. Yeah, it might be a different company, but this totally affects WWE. Vince might buy them just to avoid this happening in the future. It is an interesting thought, TNA could be seen as easy pickings by lawyers as they've settled so often on matters relating to employee welfare now, and being a smaller a company, they're potentially easier to beat in court than the WWE. Should they get a ruling that declares TNA workers employees, there are a lot of former WWE guys out there who could turn around and sue so it's a potential goldmine for the firm. Lets not forget that the Kanyon/Raven/Sanders suit against the WWE was ended because too much time had passed between their stints in the WWE and their filing suit, not because they didn't have a case.
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Post by The Scuba Guy on Oct 13, 2013 21:08:43 GMT -5
Mikey F'n Batts is back and he wants blood, or possibly in TNA's case, what's left of their life.
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Post by Jeremy on Oct 13, 2013 21:22:34 GMT -5
I thought Jesse Neal at first but Zema Ion is my new pick
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Post by CrazySting on Oct 14, 2013 5:58:09 GMT -5
Story ended up on Gerweck.net and the lawyer ended up commenting on it after someone called him a scumbbag:
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Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Oct 14, 2013 6:26:33 GMT -5
I don't know much about the lawyer himself however he seems to have a passion for helping to change the precedent in professional wrestling but what I do know is that threads like this popping up, and quite frequently I may add, where certain select people (and it's the same names every time) circle these 'suits against TNA as if they're waiting for the body to drop so they can celebrate the death of a company and get their fill on the corpse is pretty sad and I think those people should find something better to do with their time than coming to a message board attempting to lord it over people who are fans of a different sub-section of professional wrestling than they are.
Just a thought.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Oct 14, 2013 7:12:28 GMT -5
At this point, I'm with the lawyer. I stopped watching TNA after hearing of their treatment of Jesse Sorensen because I can't justify supporting a company that seems to be so completely amoral. I know medical bills for an injury so severe are costly, but they should be willing to contribute something toward taking care of their workers, even meeting half the costs would have been better that what they did and would have taken some of the burden from Jesse and his family.
The money they have p*ssed away on former stars who haven't made a dime for the company, on people that don't care enough to even try to put on a good show over the past few years could easily have covered a large portion, if not all, of the medical bills spent fixing injuries suffered on TNA's watch... but even now, despite being sued by Konnan (who didn't really have much of a case in my opinion, but was paid to shut up and not air more of TNA's dirty laundry in public), Daffney, Steiner and so on, they're still not that interested. They'd rather take their chances, hoping former workers don't sue for fear of being blackballed, but that's changing as most former TNA guys know the WWE won't come calling thanks to their new policy of not signing anyone over 30 who hasn't already worked there, and TNA are now reaping what they have sown. People are suing and are less willing to sign and accept terms that just aren't worth the risk because they know they'll get no help should they get hurt.
I hope this leads to TNA changing it's policies and beginning to help -all- their injured workers, but I think the Carters are more likely to try selling the company's assets before that happens.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2013 8:58:44 GMT -5
That lawyer comes across as a major league dick in that post, he's not really disparaging the scumbag theory. He seems to be mostly talking about people getting their medical bills paid when they're injured in ring, so as long as he doesn't go any farther than that I can't see the WWE caring enough to help out since they already do pay for medical treatments for their wrestlers.
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Post by Johnny D on Oct 14, 2013 9:05:22 GMT -5
It's Sting.
He's going to make a big stink about something and when he finally gets his moment in court, his lawyers are going to go heel and turn on him. Then Ric Flair shows up and reveals they were on HIS payroll all along! WOOOOOOOO!!!!! Another one over the Stinger.
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Post by kidglov3s on Oct 14, 2013 9:17:38 GMT -5
That lawyer comes across as a major league dick in that post, he's not really disparaging the scumbag theory. He seems to be mostly talking about people getting their medical bills paid when they're injured in ring, so as long as he doesn't go any farther than that I can't see the WWE caring enough to help out since they already do pay for medical treatments for their wrestlers. I don't really understand why he decided to write that, comes across really angry and mean.
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Post by SOR on Oct 14, 2013 9:39:04 GMT -5
That lawyer comes across as a major league dick in that post, he's not really disparaging the scumbag theory. He seems to be mostly talking about people getting their medical bills paid when they're injured in ring, so as long as he doesn't go any farther than that I can't see the WWE caring enough to help out since they already do pay for medical treatments for their wrestlers. My exact thoughts. Also seems like a bit of a mark going to read the articles about himself online. If this was my lawsuit and my lawyer was arguing with wrestling fans online I think I'd be getting rid of him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2013 9:45:35 GMT -5
I concur with all "the lawyer sounds like an idiot" posts.
The fastest way to make yourself sound like a child is the condescending "sir".
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