Bub (BLM)
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 17, 2013 12:55:56 GMT -5
Working for this company would be a nightmare for intelligent people. What's funnier is that the people who see the ridiculous nature of WWE for what it is are often made out to be the ridiculous ones. Matt Striker, Paul London, Brian Kendrick. If you watch their shoot interviews and listen to their stories, they are completely aware that WWE is insane.
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Post by angryfan on Oct 17, 2013 12:56:50 GMT -5
The only one that makes any kind of damn sense was the order to never say that a wrestler doesn't care about winning a match. If only they booked using that kind of logic... I wish they'd go the extra mile and stop having announcers refer to any heel gong for a pinfall as "trying to steal one".
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Post by Malcolm on Oct 17, 2013 12:59:40 GMT -5
It amazes me at how successful the WWE is with morons like this running the show. Because there are even bigger morons who keep buying the product?
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 17, 2013 13:00:16 GMT -5
The only one that makes any kind of damn sense was the order to never say that a wrestler doesn't care about winning a match. If only they booked using that kind of logic... I wish they'd go the extra mile and stop having announcers refer to any heel gong for a pinfall as "trying to steal one". That drives me insane. I remember the announcers acting like CM Punk was some kind of dirty cheater at last year's SummerSlam when he tossed Cena from the ring to pin Big Show. It was completely within the rules. What was he supposed to do? Let Cena win?
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Post by froggyfrog on Oct 17, 2013 13:08:13 GMT -5
These are just dumb, especially Dunn. Telling the announcers what to say isn't his job. He's the producer of the show. Telling people how he wants the show is part of the job.
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Post by 67 more on Oct 17, 2013 13:16:28 GMT -5
At least the words wrestling and wrestler are allowed again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 13:16:36 GMT -5
Not sure how any of this looks fake. Looks pretty damn realistic to me, considering many people have confirmed WWE have these types of crazy rules e.g. "championship title" not championship belt.
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Post by BRV on Oct 17, 2013 13:21:34 GMT -5
Doesn't want announcers treating the audience like they're in grade school.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Oct 17, 2013 13:30:17 GMT -5
One of the big things John Morrison used to say after he left WWE was that Vince McMahon was an unbelievable micro-manager and he's been known from years of reporting to lose his shit over the tiniest details, no matter how semingly stupid and mundane.
So, yeah. I buy this. Also, some of these read so much like the WWE Newspeak, so it really does add up.
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Post by wallabylikeyou on Oct 17, 2013 13:42:36 GMT -5
They...have their own award for "match of the year".
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Post by SCCB Was Told To Do Steroids on Oct 17, 2013 13:49:52 GMT -5
You'd think they'd have a more professional looking memo. That looks like someone cut and paste emails...or a Vince Russo booking sheet...bazinga.
Seriously, in the era of corporations getting raided and subpoenaed, I doubt they would still input carny language into their memos. I don't have a problem with much of this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 13:52:06 GMT -5
Every time Cena isn't on screen, the announcers should say "Where's Cena?"
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Post by The Baltimore Staircase on Oct 17, 2013 14:07:29 GMT -5
The amount of times Cole and JBL screamed "CALL THE MATCH" on Raw this week makes me think they were getting an earful about going off on one and not giving a shit.
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Post by Error on Oct 17, 2013 14:24:22 GMT -5
I'll go one by one just because:
I can understand that but it's silly. Though it never worked to me since Starrcade was older. i guess you can say Starrcade doesn't count since it died with WCW though.
Makes sense in a kid-friendly PG environment. It'd make more sense to not have chokes but, Taker is the only one who used one to my memory and I wouldn't want to be the one to tell him no.
This makes no sense. Even if you take away the predetermined nature of the business, the titles aren't a once a year tourney style award, they are won and lost between between competitors all the time and change hands.
Fine by me. Not big on "5 Star" rankings and with how they call things, "match of the year" would quickly become the new "greatest night in our sport".
On the ref stuff, I love it, I just wish they'd take that approach all the time. Same for talent not caring about winning, that should be extremely rare and used to build stuff like the HIAC, I Quit, LMS, and Cage matches, to make them seem like two guys who want to hurt each other more than simply winning a match. Orton and DBry should be at that point now, where there is absolute hatred between them for all that has happened. Of course that flies in the face of not using "hate" or "hatred" to describe a feud which is just ridiculous.
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Post by bootytea on Oct 17, 2013 14:26:29 GMT -5
An employer has to set out the shows guidelines for everybody or else you get nuisances like JBL and Matt Striker making the show unwatchable. Vince Mcmahon and company have been doing this for years and must have good reasons for ensuring that the commentators know their place. I wish there was someone to make Vince et al "know their place." These notes are beyond stupid and are intelligence insulting. Especially the choked thing. Newsflash: THEY ARE CHOKING PEOPLE. It'd be like a TV show having people be shot with guns, but passing down a mandate that it couldn't be mentioned. "THAT UNDERCOVER COP WAS HIT WITH A LAUNCHED PROJECTILE AT A HIGH VELOCITY AND HAS SUFFERED GRIEVOUS INJURY AS A RESULT." The idea is that people are watching their show, not somebody elses. You have to present your show in a way that the regular viewer would not or else anybody could do this. I truly believe this is a way to cover their mediocre programming and make it seem more intricate than it really is.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Oct 17, 2013 14:31:49 GMT -5
I wish there was someone to make Vince et al "know their place." These notes are beyond stupid and are intelligence insulting. Especially the choked thing. Newsflash: THEY ARE CHOKING PEOPLE. It'd be like a TV show having people be shot with guns, but passing down a mandate that it couldn't be mentioned. "THAT UNDERCOVER COP WAS HIT WITH A LAUNCHED PROJECTILE AT A HIGH VELOCITY AND HAS SUFFERED GRIEVOUS INJURY AS A RESULT." The idea is that people are watching their show, not somebody elses. You have to present your show in a way that the regular viewer would not or else anybody could do this. I truly believe this is a way to cover their mediocre programming and make it seem more intricate than it really is. Regardless, it's a failure, perception-wise. Everyone simply laughs at their ham-fisted attempts to reinvent the wheel.
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Post by Steveweiser on Oct 17, 2013 14:38:25 GMT -5
For the record, this was originally in the Observer this week, and Meltzer said in that piece that the notes were from a few years ago.
Heck, Renee Young was on NXT this week talking about how Graves and Neville "dropped the titles", which is just a step away from "dropping the belts" or "dropping the straps". According to that memo, they'd have swarmed hard on her for that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 14:38:31 GMT -5
The "titles changing hands" thing just sounds like someone deciding to throw their weight around and make a change because they can.
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Bub (BLM)
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 17, 2013 14:38:32 GMT -5
The idea is that people are watching their show, not somebody elses. You have to present your show in a way that the regular viewer would not or else anybody could do this. I truly believe this is a way to cover their mediocre programming and make it seem more intricate than it really is. Regardless, it's a failure, perception-wise. Everyone simply laughs at their ham-fisted attempts to reinvent the wheel. You've just reminded me of the ECW roster page on WWE.com in 2006 and how it went from ROSTER WRESTLERS EXTREMISTS SUPERSTARS within days. They were so desperate to put their own twist on something that they couldn't figure out what to call a group of wrestlers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 14:42:15 GMT -5
Saying that the ref didn't see it is much more accurate. If he was distracted, his vision wasn't "impaired" in any way, he was looking at another thing in an completely unimpaired manner.
Also, Stephanie, I'm going to have to request that there be no more references to "grade school." The accepted modern terminology is "elementary school." Please and thank you.
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