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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Oct 27, 2013 18:10:26 GMT -5
Steve Atsin & Val Venus vs Rice Flair & The Rick with FM Punk on commentary and Bert Hart as a special guest referee, because Bert Hart is always special guest referee... Sorry I couldn't resist, had to do it, now you can go on with the thread like nothing happened, bye. Saw a dude on Youtube call Stone Cold "Steve Autism" once. I wonder if he opens up a can off whoop-aspergers? |
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Oct 27, 2013 18:17:33 GMT -5
Not enough homophobia for this to truly represent the nightmare that is a youtube wrestling comments section. lol bet ur a gay cenr fan |
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Oct 27, 2013 18:29:31 GMT -5
That's pretty spot-on. I really hate the complaining about the PG Era. They can't look at the positives? I gotta say this: I missed the entire Attitude Era. I started watching when I was 10, and that was back in the "good old days" of 2007. Does blood really matter? Absolutely not. Swearing? That isn't necessary, either. The Attitude Era is not coming back, and I don't think it should. Also, I get sick of people wanting destructive Kane back. If he stayed like that for 16 years, he'd be incredibly stale, and nobody wants that. Here is where I take umbrage with this post. You have almost no idea what the Attitude Era was like. I dont mean that literally. Because obviously there's heaps of video and footage to watch, but there's a big difference between watching Austin's "crucifixion" on Youtube in 2013 and seeing it live. I was 19 in 1997. There hasn't been a time since that I looked forward to an event like I did from late 97-02. Almost every week, the show was worth watching during Attitude. Sure, there were plenty of times it was stupid crap, but more often than not at the very least it was compelling. That's the key word I find missing when people deride the Attitude Era. "Oh, it was all about tits and blood and hardcore and cursing." That was just allowed then. It wasn't "about" that. It was a time when the product was compelling because they had a multitude of stars in the prime of their careers and the WWE had to do something to survive WCW's competition and that something was to up the ante on "controversial". I don't refer to this era as the "PG Era". I refer to it as the "Corporate Era". This is the era where WWE became a commodity with stock holders and advertisers they have to answer to so they can maintain a bottom line. Where they have Hollywood writers (rather than wrestling writers) making the content heavily scripted. Back during Attitude, WWE was still a privately owned company that could do whatever they wanted and as long as they got ratings, they were allowed to. Now, there's a whole different method of doing business and there is literally no competition whatsoever that is forcing them (WWE) to be more creative. The only thing I ask for when I watch wrestling, be it WWE, TNA, or ROH, or whatever, is that it's compelling. Make me want to watch it and come back week to week to watch it. More often than not, this era has been a let down in the compelling department and it has become overly homogenized/predictable crap. I still watch it because I do still find enjoyment and there are plenty of times that "PG" has been compelling, but more often than not it gets saturated and whittled down to nothing because of the corporate influence. I dont care about blood, tits, or hardcore, just make me care about the characters. They are having a really tough time doing that over the last 10 years. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 18:35:49 GMT -5
Well some tits couldn't hurt.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 27, 2013 20:11:58 GMT -5
Not enough homophobia for this to truly represent the nightmare that is a youtube wrestling comments section. lol bet ur a gay cenr fan I am a gay Cena fan, but I'm not gay for Cena and haven't been for five years.  |
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Post by The Ichi on Oct 27, 2013 20:52:38 GMT -5
I love reading Youtube comments it makes me feel even smarter. Though it does make me wonder about a lot of wrestling fans. I mean, the majority of people here are at least able to support their argument with some sort of rationale most of the time, are their pockets of dumbassed youtube fans on different wrestling boards? And how annoying would that be!? I'm not gonna name names, but there was a poster a lil while back whose posts (or posting style, at least) seemed to come straight out of Youtube. They're escaping. |
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Post by percymania on Oct 27, 2013 20:55:25 GMT -5
Vince shud bring back Autsin and HBK thumbs up if you agree
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Post by The Ichi on Oct 27, 2013 20:59:44 GMT -5
I love the Attitude Era. I get nostalgic about the Attitude Era. It had great moments, matches, and memories. It was truly a great time to be a fan I would not want to see it back on this Earth for all the treasure in the world. For all its flaws, the "PG Era" is actually something that is suitable for the entire family to watch. At it's worst, the Attitude Era was a poor man's attempt at Jerry Springer and, despite the fond memories, I really feel that it missed more often than it hit. It's just that, when it hit, it struck gold. That's the thing, I honestly feel like the Attitude Era, in a bizarre kind of way, has become underrated simply because liking it now lumps you into the group of people mentioned in this thread. Kind of like being a Juggalo who's ashamed to be seen with other Juggalos. |
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Post by RAW IS GWAR on Oct 27, 2013 22:12:14 GMT -5
Welcome to the internet
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Post by wildojinx on Oct 27, 2013 22:57:54 GMT -5
The best comment I ever read was someone claiming that Rey Mysterio's father wrestled in WCW and the Mysterio in WWE is his son. But Rey Sr DID wrestle in WCW: www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUVMWqbKSfA |
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Oct 28, 2013 5:42:53 GMT -5
You missed you like Cena what are you a fag ECW ECW ECW.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 28, 2013 5:50:32 GMT -5
I find it fascinating that the Attitude Era had over wrestlers with great gimmicks for the most part, yet there was little to no wrestling of any substance on the TV shows, while it seems that the opposite is true today... plenty of wrestling (with at least one or two good matches every week), but most of the wrestlers are struggling for character development and overness.
Admittedly, current times have that extra hour to work with, but I still find it to be a fair comparison to make.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Oct 28, 2013 5:53:56 GMT -5
I find it fascinating that the Attitude Era had over wrestlers with great gimmicks for the most part, yet there was little to no wrestling of any substance on the TV shows, while it seems that the opposite is true today... plenty of wrestling (with at least one or two good matches every week), but most of the wrestlers are struggling for character development and overness. It's not a new phenomenon. I remember in the early days of the Monday Night Wars, WWF promoting the fact that they were the promotion with a bunch of athletic young guys like Bret and Shawn who could put on phenomenal in-ring displays, while WCW was relying on middle-aged has-beens with catchphrases. And boy, did WWF get its ass kicked for a year or so there. |
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Post by Herman The Tosser on Oct 28, 2013 5:56:07 GMT -5
The best comment I ever read was someone claiming that Rey Mysterio's father wrestled in WCW and the Mysterio in WWE is his son. But Rey Sr DID wrestle in WCW: www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUVMWqbKSfAYes, but Rey Sr was Rey Jr's uncle. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 9:27:30 GMT -5
The attitude era begins and ends with Steve Austin and The Rock. If those two weren't around, would you really pay $30 a PPV to see the Godfather, Val Venis and D. Lo Brown?
Yes their was some other good talent like Mankind, DX and the Undertaker at that time. But Steve Austin and The Rock are what drew the money, not giving birth to hands and chopping off penises.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 28, 2013 9:43:24 GMT -5
They also fail to realize Smackdown has always been rated pg
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Post by Bootista on Oct 28, 2013 9:56:32 GMT -5
Steve Atsin & Val Venus vs Rice Flair & The Rick with FM Punk on commentary and Bert Hart as a special guest referee, because Bert Hart is always special guest referee... Sorry I couldn't resist, had to do it, now you can go on with the thread like nothing happened, bye. Saw a dude on Youtube call Stone Cold "Steve Autism" once. I wonder if he opens up a can off whoop-aspergers? In my Advil PM induced haze, I thought that said whoop-asparagus. |
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Oct 28, 2013 10:31:21 GMT -5
lol bet ur a gay cenr fan I am a gay Cena fan, but I'm not gay for Cena and haven't been for five years. So we can add you to the list of people whose lives have been changed by DDP's Yoga? Awesome to hear that you beat your Cena Addiction--it gives me real hope for Jake Roberts and Scott Hall. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 11:07:40 GMT -5
*Watching/listening to demolitions theme* John Cena sucks cm punk owns him How can a person lack a soul so badly that they can be negative while listening to Demolition's theme? |
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Post by Jiren on Oct 28, 2013 14:18:41 GMT -5
*Watching/listening to demolitions theme* John Cena sucks cm punk owns him How can a person lack a soul so badly that they can be negative while listening to Demolition's theme? *shrug* That's the Youtube comments section for you |
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