"Magic" Mark Hurr
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Oct 28, 2013 10:24:44 GMT -5
The same thing I've been feeling for a while now, apathy. I feel nothing. Watching is all about the little victories now. For a company to have so many talented wrestlers it's a constant letdown after another with a glimmer of hope here and there. It shouldn't be that way. I used to be entertained just because, but even that has worn off. I'll watch because i love watch wrestling but my like for it has greatly decreased. Not TNA levels yet I vote "No Confidence!"
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Post by corndog on Oct 28, 2013 10:27:54 GMT -5
I'm still kind of where I am following Battleground: Cautiously optimistic. I agree with what they tried to accomplish tonight but I disagree with the execution. They should have come up with a better way to wipe Shawn Michaels out, and a more convincing setup to Shawn superkicking Daniel Bryan. I mean they could have had Shawn Michaels ask Daniel what happened, it's not like Daniel would think he'd have any reason to lie to Shawn. Shawn asks DB what happened, DB says he kicked him to hell because he's trying to screw him, HBK mulls over it for a little bit then kicks him. But I still agree that if they're gonna put the title on Bryan they gotta do it big, and do it at Wrestlemania. Things seem bad now, and they could be bad, but in my opinion there's no better way to do this than the traditional way, have Bryan win the Royal Rumble then main event Wrestlemania. Actually have the Royal Rumble win mean something and reward him with an actual Wrestlemania main event. It's late October and DB doesn't have the title yet so we might as well do it at the big one. Exactly, at this point, might as well wait until Wrestlemania and make Bryan's title win mean something rather than have him win at a random ppv and screw him out of the belt a week or day later. As far as the current product, I am still watching, but it's on life support. With both MNF(NFL and Premier League)and the last season of How I Met Your Mother sitting on my DVR when I get off work, I have alot to watch on Monday nights. Last Monday I did alot of fast forwarding, but I still watched and the week before I didn't even watch it. The good news is the tired Punk/Heyman fued hopefully is over and I have to watch if Vince is coming back. Orton and Cena as champions are quite disgusting, but I still enjoy a good portion of the mid card. If the Raws continue their boring and predictable habits, I might have to take a break for a little while. But I always end up coming back.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 28, 2013 11:06:46 GMT -5
my big problem is lately the main event feels very... WCW. it's like when the nWo always won and never received any kind of back and forth. conflict sells but it has to be meaningful conflict.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 11:39:42 GMT -5
my big problem is lately the main event feels very... WCW. it's like when the nWo always won and never received any kind of back and forth. conflict sells but it has to be meaningful conflict. I think that's part of the issue. The way it's being written, there just plain isn't a way for Bryan to win on his own. He's being an idiot who keeps expecting Triple H to play fair only to be screwed again and again, and he's completely powerless to stop it from happening until someone steps in to tie up Orton or Triple H one for him or the board / Vince removes Triple H from power or something. There's something to be said for odds but they've put him in a no-win situation.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 11:51:54 GMT -5
My sole interest in the main angle is what kinds of absurd nonsense the Big Show will get into next.
I'll still watch but I suspect I'll be much more casual in regards to the WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 12:22:15 GMT -5
I'm barely interested in the WWE Title scene anymore, which is a shame because I like Bryan and Orton, and think HHH has been very effective in his role thus far. But last night's ending was all-around terrible and I just simply don't have it in me anymore to be like "let's see where this goes."
But I've been ignoring or only been marginally interested in the main event scene for years now, so beyond that I think WWE is basically in a good place. The tag division is really fun, Punk can move on to a feud that's actually interesting (maybe he can even get paired up with a good worker!), AJ still has her belt, Big E is getting a push, the World Heavyweight Title doesn't feel like an afterthought for the first time in years...there's still plenty of good to be found.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 12:32:14 GMT -5
my big problem is lately the main event feels very... WCW. it's like when the nWo always won and never received any kind of back and forth. conflict sells but it has to be meaningful conflict. Have we been watching the same show? At Battleground Cody and Goldust beat the Shield and got their jobs back, infuriating the Authority. Then the main event of that show was technically a draw but it was presented as more of a victory for the faces than the heels since Big Show stood tall and thwarted their attempts to hand Orton the title. The night after Raw ended with Triple H getting knocked out. The next week ended with Cody and Goldust winning the Tag titles and Triple H throwing a hissy fit. Last week ended with Bryan knocking out Orton. Even Smackdown ended with Bryan pinning Orton. Last night was the first time the heels really got the upper hand all month.
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Post by Push R Truth on Oct 28, 2013 12:43:12 GMT -5
I've spent the last 10 years watching for the undercard and I've rarely been disappointed.
I've found out if I just don't give a shit about the main event that most RAWs are a lot of fun and most PPV's are entertaining. I treat the Main Event as a sort of bonus. If it sucks, i just turn RAW off early. If it's good, well, I get to watch something fun.
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Post by blues on Oct 28, 2013 14:57:59 GMT -5
I fastforwarded through HIAC. That says the most I guess.
I am really not invested in the product right now. Only thing that gets me really excited at the moment is Antonio Cesaro, because he is the f***ing best in the world. But hey WWE, lets use him to get over a new tagteam.
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Post by Spiderf 4 on Oct 28, 2013 20:54:36 GMT -5
I've been watching wrestling since 1989. And right now, this moment, I feel like WWE, infact American pro wrestling overall, is at it's lowest point it has been. TNA is falling apart, ROH still isn't on national television, and no other organization seems close.
Back to WWE, there is literally NOTHING to hope for in this angle. The evil bosses have always gotten their way, and there is no reason to believe that they won't continue to get their way. There's nothing for the fan to cling to.
But besides that, WWE doesn't know how to build new stars. They can build them to a point, then they're fed to Cena or Orton. Again, no reason to hope for the future if a fan likes any other wrestler. I don't know why this is the way, considering WWE is on top by a large margin, so you would think they could afford to take more risks in who gets the spotlight. But no. It's disheartening, and it makes the fans feel like fools for believing in anyone that isn't at the very top. That was one of the good things about the Attitude era, a LOT of guys got a fair share of the spotlight. But they don't do that today, and that is why WWE isn't doing as well as it was back then.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Oct 28, 2013 21:30:29 GMT -5
After Hell in a Cell and tonight's Raw, I'm taking another hiatus.
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Post by Mac on Oct 28, 2013 21:40:18 GMT -5
I think the show is watchable for the most part. I dont stick to a whole 3 hour episode, but I pick and choose my spots. A few years ago I'd order every PPV but now I grab maybe 3-4 a year.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Oct 28, 2013 22:32:50 GMT -5
My feelings on the product weren't really effected by Hell in a Cell, because I didn't watch it. It was the 3rd PPV in a row that I didn't order. I ordered or saw live almost every WWE pay per view since the beginning of 2000. Prior to that, I had seen every show as soon as at came out on video going back to my days as a preschool aged Hulkamaniac. My passion for the current product is at an all time low.
The shenanigans at SummerSlam certainly didn't help, but this product has been lowering my interest for a long time. I understand why in my head, but it's hard to articulate in a way that others can understand. The closest I can come to explaining it is saying its just too "processed". It reminds me of the current state of pop music. Sure there is still good stuff and there are performers I like, but it feels like there is no soul it it. Some time a while ago, someone perfected the formula to make money in music. Now every hit song has perfect instrumentation with a perfect pitch singer singing a tune in a perfect pop melody that's guaranteed to generate a hit. The current WWE has great performers and great production. But it's so good and tight that I can't get lost in it anymore. I don't see a guy speaking from the heart telling his rival why he wants to fight him. I see a guy reading lines and looking at cameras in a rehearsed sequence. I don't see a match where two guys are trying to win or hurt each other. I see two guys going from one move to the next with little thought for the story. There's no grit. There's no imperfection. From the moves all the way down to the commentary, everything comes off exactly as planned. Almost all the time. And wrestling isn't fun that way. It needs to be messy. It needs to look chaotic and disorganized. Otherwise it just looks fake.
I still love wrestling. I watch old tapes and DVDs every week. When it's done right in an organic way, I still feel it like nothing in entertainment. But when I watch the WWE of today, I feel nothing, no matter how much I want to feel something. With the WWE showing no signs of turning back to a less-controlled product, I might be close to checking out for good.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Oct 28, 2013 23:43:40 GMT -5
I still follow what happens on the show by reading posts here, but I've only watched one episode of WWE TV, a Raw from September, since the July 15th episode when John Cena challenged Daniel Bryan to a match at Summerslam. And from what I read as to what's happening on the shows, plus other things in my own life I need to worry about that are far more important than a wrestling TV show which I find frustrating to watch, I'm really okay with the idea of not watching WWE's product until the new year.
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Post by bob on Oct 29, 2013 0:15:54 GMT -5
After being Sandow losong to a Super Cena, who only had one good arm which was beat down before he cashed in as well as in the match against Del Rio the night before I'm on hiatus. I was half way learning there before a guy with basically a dead arm was fed an a young up and comer after the clusterf*** of a main event last night now I'm on hiatus out of pure apathy.
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