I Never Thought I'd Miss Russo

[Rolent Tex]

Let's be honest here. We're already getting the screwy ass main event changes and random heel/face turns...but it's missing that little extra Russotastic touch. You know the one.

If he was around Ziggler, Truth, Ryder and their ilk would...I don't know...be doing something besides B-shows and shilling Shopzone. I know we pick on him a lot but I'll be damned if he isn't the only booker in history that never had the "we don't have anything for you at the moment" excuse.

[mizerable]

The whole "creative has nothing for you" is a silly option. Maybe creative needs to be fired then, not the talent.

It goes beyond that. While everyone had something to do in the Attitude Era, there was also a lot of shuffling from place to place. You were able to stay fresh since you had the option to renew yourself by going to WCW and such. It worked well for Sean Waltman.

Nowadays, you have guys to have a vice grip on their spot and so you're going to continually get the same people doing the same things. That's why wrestling in the early 90's started to stagnate.

[Kayfabe FAN don't want none]

f*** Russo, i want the guy who left around SummerSlam.

[Amazing Kitsune]

Don't blame me, I've always liked Russo. Well, to be fair, I've liked Russo's intentions moreso than the actual implementations of his ideas. He's capable of great, interesting storylines--just not consistent ones.

[Rolent Tex]

Hell... I just want them to hand him the IC and US Title divisions and let him do his thing.

[Deleted]

I want Heyman back as a writer; Smackdown Six-like action with evolved storylines.

[Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks]

I never thought I'd miss Russo either.

Fortunately, I still don't.

[wisdomwizard]

The writers ARE the ones who have been getting fired. When was the last time someone on the roster not from NXT was fired? And did it even happen this year?


I don't know for sure if Kreizman is gone or not, I don't remember any recent report stating if he's still on or if it's someone else. At any rate, it's not the writers. It's the producers like Johnny Ace's female clone or Kevin Dunn. They're the ones who are clueless and should get the ax. Thankfully, HHH is getting more and more control over the company. Soon he'll be the one with final say over Creative and it's known he wants to throw Dunn out on his butt.



As for Russo, I'm pretty certain the booking would terrible with him, not better. I wouldn't want to see Zack Ryder hit with a paternity suit from Otunga on Aksana's behalf leading to a feud with a heel Great Khali, whatever nonsense. His style of writing just wouldn't work in WWE today.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Oct 30, 2013 12:43:05 GMT -5 wisdomwizard said:

As for Russo, I'm pretty certain the booking would terrible with him, not better. I wouldn't want to see Zack Ryder hit with a paternity suit from Otunga on Aksana's behalf leading to a feud with a heel Great Khali, whatever nonsense. His style of writing just wouldn't work in WWE today.

At least they'd be doing something other than jobbing every week.

I'd love to see something along the lines of Yoshi/Kidd where the wrestlers are putting on PPV quality matches for the most ridiculous of reasons. Like Alex Riley and Heath Slater in a street fight over the last piece of cake in catering or something.

Or JTG attempting vehicular homicide on Darren Young because he stepped on his shoes.

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

with Vince Russo the booking would be the same, but with more things like Triple H talking about how he got a dirty sanchez and how he's the most adult and edgy guy ever.

[Hawk Hart]

Everyone would be doing something but most of them would be doing something awful.

[Amazing Kitsune]

Oct 30, 2013 21:38:53 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

with Vince Russo the booking would be the same, but with more things like Triple H talking about how he got a dirty sanchez and how he's the most adult and edgy guy ever.

HHH would approve.

[BorneAgain]

Swerve, he actually misses you.

[Deleted]

I never cared for Russo's work, but you're right to point out he was good at trotting everybody out there.

Granted, what they would end up doing would almost certainly be nonsensical and go nowhere, but at least they were out there.

WWE gets hellaciously stagnant at times, due in large part to the fact there is essentially nothing past the main event scene. They're too concerned with trying to continue to push guys that are already over, like they're insecure about their top guys ability to remain top guys if they don't assail you with it.

The good of Russo was that he still got the A listers out there without shoving the scrubs entirely off the frame. WWE can't do this.

[percymania]

I never thought I would miss Russo either. If my aim was a little better I would have hit him right in the face with my drink that night in Tupelo.

[Rolent Tex]

Oct 30, 2013 21:47:39 GMT -5 BorneAgain said:

Swerve, he actually misses you.

In Soviet Russia...

[saintpat]

Vince Russo is a misunderstood genius ...

Long ago, Steve Austin cut an Attitude Era promo and someone said, "That guy's a genius," and Russo misunderstood and thought they were talking about him.

[BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps]

I miss Russo too.



Should have gotten a third season at the very least.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Oct 30, 2013 22:10:33 GMT -5 @lesscra said:

I never cared for Russo's work, but you're right to point out he was good at trotting everybody out there.

Granted, what they would end up doing would almost certainly be nonsensical and go nowhere, but at least they were out there.

WWE gets hellaciously stagnant at times, due in large part to the fact there is essentially nothing past the main event scene. They're too concerned with trying to continue to push guys that are already over, like they're insecure about their top guys ability to remain top guys if they don't assail you with it.

The good of Russo was that he still got the A listers out there without shoving the scrubs entirely off the frame. WWE can't do this.

The sad part is that WWE clearly DOES push new talents. The problem is that they've neglected the midcard for so long that they've created the mindset that only the main eventers can be taken seriously. So they try to shove every moderately over and talented person into the upper tier with mixed results. You either end up with an Alex Riley or a Zack Ryder, solid midcard level talents who get pushed beyond their abilities and suffer for it, or someone like Ryback, or to a lesser extent Cody Rhodes a few years ago (and I think the Wyatt Family is in danger of going this route as well), where a talent gets really hot but just ends up hitting the wall because WWE realized it's "too soon" and were forced to pull back. WWE clearly pushes new guys, but because they've cultivated this "only the main event matters" mindset for so long, they've reasoned that they have to make everyone into an A-lister to get them over. That's pretty much the only reason the World Heavyweight Title still exists post-Brand Split. There isn't even much of a real midcard anymore, just a scattering of demoted main eventers who aren't currently chasing the world titles.

[Tony Schiavontay]

Oct 30, 2013 11:58:35 GMT -5 Rolent Tex said:

Let's be honest here. We're already getting the screwy ass main event changes and random heel/face turns...but it's missing that little extra Russotastic touch. You know the one.

If he was around Ziggler, Truth, Ryder and their ilk would...I don't know...be doing something besides B-shows and shilling Shopzone. I know we pick on him a lot but I'll be damned if he isn't the only booker in history that never had the "we don't have anything for you at the moment" excuse.

They'd all have dick joke gimmicks having feuds about dick jokes.