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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 23:38:20 GMT -5
I'm one of the sometimes overly cynical posters on here (done in all humour, if I despised the show I'd stop watching as I do every so often) but you can probably see my posts go from "f*** YOU WRITERS" to "YES! BRILLIANT!" in a split second due to the sheer absurdity of the dull Kane look/walk to the ring. It's bizarre and brilliant, this is what wrestling does best, it can redeem itself with the sheer madness of such moments. It's amazing what a great payoff can do even if the build up to the climax is silly. Honestly though, I don't Kane was the best part of tonight just the main event angle; I think it was Renee Young who was the MVP tonight. Someone needs to give that gal an Appreciation Thread, she's earned it. Oh yeah, she has enough personality in her expressions, she actually sounds like she's kayfabe interested in what the wresters have to say, and actually does feel like a valuable backstage interviewer. She lacks the wrestling-cliche annoyances of people like Matt Striker/Josh Matthews (I like them both but they lacked the performance ability to response with non-stupid facial expressions), and she feels natural in her performance. When it comes down to it, the majority of the time it's just the haphazard writing that bothers me, right now, in ring & on microphone I find that most of the roster does a great job. Well, not JBL, but that's well established already.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 23:43:35 GMT -5
In all the hoopla I forgot, but I just re-realized that 2 and a half months ago, Daniel Bryan pinned John Cena clean at Summerslam. Now, he's shunted out of the main event storyline that was allegedly built around him to "make him a star". Not even Korporate Kane makes up for that. Not exactly shunned, he get away fro a bit so it doesn't get stale. If he's over as many people say he is, then he should have no difficulty staying over in the second biggest angle on Raw. He's not gonna have difficulty staying over, he's Daniel Bryan. But the main event angle was all about him, but now he's not even in it. Like he just moved on "oh well they got me". The only reason he'd get stale is shitty writing, and WWE supplied that in full. Maybe they have Punk and Bryan vanquish the Wyatts and go after the Authority together, but I still think it's a mistake to give him a huge win and then kill his momentum dead, just to try and reheat it later.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Nov 4, 2013 23:44:30 GMT -5
In all the hoopla I forgot, but I just re-realized that 2 and a half months ago, Daniel Bryan pinned John Cena clean at Summerslam. Now, he's shunted out of the main event storyline that was allegedly built around him to "make him a star". Not even Korporate Kane makes up for that. Not exactly shunned, he get away fro a bit so it doesn't get stale. If he's over as many people say he is, then he should have no difficulty staying over in the second biggest angle on Raw. And he's aligned with one of the other over faces in WWE, so he'll be just fine.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 23:47:23 GMT -5
Not exactly shunned, he get away fro a bit so it doesn't get stale. If he's over as many people say he is, then he should have no difficulty staying over in the second biggest angle on Raw. And he's aligned with one of the other over faces in WWE, so he'll be just fine. I love the repeated use of "he's gonna be fine, just fine." It reminds me of something a person in a relationship says when their partner keeps asking them what's wrong, when they know something is wrong. "I'm fine, garsh".
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Nov 4, 2013 23:47:30 GMT -5
Nobody is talking about seeing Summer Rae's sunrise, tonight. I know here in America the screen went black for a second or two. That's usually an oopsie spot.
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Post by Sparkybob on Nov 4, 2013 23:48:12 GMT -5
Not exactly shunned, he get away fro a bit so it doesn't get stale. If he's over as many people say he is, then he should have no difficulty staying over in the second biggest angle on Raw. He's not gonna have difficulty staying over, he's Daniel Bryan. But the main event angle was all about him, but now he's not even in it. Like he just moved on "oh well they got me". The only reason he'd get stale is shitty writing, and WWE supplied that in full. Maybe they have Punk and Bryan vanquish the Wyatts and go after the Authority together, but I still think it's a mistake to give him a huge win and then kill his momentum dead, just to try and reheat it later. But if he's still going to be super over, how is his momentum dead? He hasn't lost clean in months and I'm pretty sure he ain't jobbing to the Wyatts either. I think this shows that the WWE has more confidence in Bryan since they feel he can still be super over without them putting him at the top top of the card.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 4, 2013 23:48:14 GMT -5
And he's aligned with one of the other over faces in WWE, so he'll be just fine. I love the repeated use of "he's gonna be fine, just fine." It reminds me of something a person in a relationship says when their partner keeps asking them what's wrong, when they know something is wrong. "I'm fine, garsh". Bryan will be fine, alright. The thing is, it will be in spite of WWE, not because of them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 23:53:02 GMT -5
He's not gonna have difficulty staying over, he's Daniel Bryan. But the main event angle was all about him, but now he's not even in it. Like he just moved on "oh well they got me". The only reason he'd get stale is shitty writing, and WWE supplied that in full. Maybe they have Punk and Bryan vanquish the Wyatts and go after the Authority together, but I still think it's a mistake to give him a huge win and then kill his momentum dead, just to try and reheat it later. But if he's still going to be super over, how is his momentum dead? He hasn't lost clean in months and I'm pretty sure he ain't jobbing to the Wyatts either. I think this shows that the WWE has more confidence in Bryan since they feel he can still be super over without them putting him at the top top of the card. Don't you want your most over guys at the forefront? I don't understand this thinking "it shows they're more confident in him if they just push him down the card in favor of the Big Show".
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Post by Sparkybob on Nov 4, 2013 23:58:27 GMT -5
But if he's still going to be super over, how is his momentum dead? He hasn't lost clean in months and I'm pretty sure he ain't jobbing to the Wyatts either. I think this shows that the WWE has more confidence in Bryan since they feel he can still be super over without them putting him at the top top of the card. Don't you want your most over guys at the forefront? I don't understand this thinking "it shows they're more confident in him if they just push him down the card in favor of the Big Show". But the story isn't over yet, and their is nothing wrong with the WWE trying to get as many people over as possible from this angle. Bryan is still in a top spot working with another top babyface. This is also elevating the Wyatts up and giving them a chance to get more over which is also nice. There is no way this angle is ending with Show standing tall so the authority needs this feud to build up some credibility so it's more impressive when a hero slays them.
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Post by Chip on Nov 5, 2013 0:59:15 GMT -5
I dare anyone to say that Daniel Bryan is not better off having been removed from this storyline now. Thank god Daniel Bryan got bumped from the main event. I think maybe we put too much emphasis on the main event at times. I mean, currently the main event is Big Show vs Hunter and Hunter isn't even wrestling in the feud. You have Daniel Bryan teaming with CM Punk to take out the Wyatts and John Cena feuding with Damien Sandow. The top three faces of the company aren't in the main event. It just feels like had Bryan been kept in the storyline, with the direction it's going, he would have been greatly worse off then he is now.
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Post by The Baltimore Staircase on Nov 5, 2013 2:23:23 GMT -5
I'm of the opinion that Bryan's road to the main event has been handled poorly since Summerslam and taking him out of it for a while will be a good thing. If they just kept him going for the title and losing by dirty tricks every time, people are gonna get bored.
Plus teaming him with Punk is gonna pop the crowd like crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 2:27:16 GMT -5
Can you imagine if Kane never unmasked before tonight, and he just came out there like this? That would've been amazing. He has unmasked before?!
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Nov 5, 2013 2:34:54 GMT -5
As you can see on my business charts clearly the trend that proves that fire is best for business... Brimstone is the new investment.
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Post by 543Y2J on Nov 5, 2013 2:54:47 GMT -5
Damn I missed Korporate Kane? ! Can't wait to watch this now
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Nov 5, 2013 2:57:56 GMT -5
Damn I missed Korporate Kate? ! Can't wait to watch this now No, Katie died years ago.
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Post by turkeysandwich on Nov 5, 2013 3:14:16 GMT -5
Nobody is talking about seeing Summer Rae's sunrise, tonight. I know here in America the screen went black for a second or two. That's usually an oopsie spot. I mentioned it here in the Raw thread, but no one else commented on it, so I thought maybe it was just my cable. So, I guess it wasn't just me.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Nov 5, 2013 4:53:40 GMT -5
Nobody is talking about seeing Summer Rae's sunrise, tonight. I know here in America the screen went black for a second or two. That's usually an oopsie spot. I mentioned it here in the Raw thread, but no one else commented on it, so I thought maybe it was just my cable. So, I guess it wasn't just me. I can now 100% confirm that the overseas version didn't get blanked. That's like the third slip this year. Next year, the divas will all wear jeans.
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Post by 543Y2J on Nov 5, 2013 6:29:19 GMT -5
Damn I missed Korporate Kate? ! Can't wait to watch this now No, Katie died years ago. Someone with photoshop needs to put sad Korporate Kane into this pic....
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Post by Sparkybob on Nov 5, 2013 6:42:28 GMT -5
Nobody is talking about seeing Summer Rae's sunrise, tonight. I know here in America the screen went black for a second or two. That's usually an oopsie spot. I mentioned it here in the Raw thread, but no one else commented on it, so I thought maybe it was just my cable. So, I guess it wasn't just me. I got a black screen for a couple of seconds as well.
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Post by playa on Nov 5, 2013 8:09:06 GMT -5
ADR was gold on commentary. I laughed pretty hard at Cole asking what ADR thinks of Sandow, then the silence, and JBL retorting "he's a gringo".
Actually the entire 6 man tag segment was great. Cesaro and Sandow are getting huge nods for their ring and character work, respectively, and Cody is getting an awesome slow build.
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