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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Nov 6, 2013 19:12:02 GMT -5
There have been rumblings of splitting Shield up and maybe having one of the members turn face as a result. Who do you think will make that turn from the group?
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Nov 6, 2013 19:42:29 GMT -5
Roman Reigns.
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Post by Razor Gives It A 4/10 on Nov 6, 2013 20:16:23 GMT -5
I can see Roman and Seth turning face very soon.
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Post by Jessica Cadavre on Nov 6, 2013 20:18:03 GMT -5
I figured it'd be Rollins first up until the recent stuff with Reigns. But I think they're both going to turn on Ambrose eventually.
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Post by Sparkybob on Nov 6, 2013 20:35:11 GMT -5
Reigns and Rollins simultaneously against Ambrose for triple threat at Mania 30 like with legacy, except this time it won't suck.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Nov 6, 2013 20:44:28 GMT -5
The way they seem to be setting up Reigns at the minute it seems like he will be the one to turn face. I think Rollins is the better option to turn first though, they can always turn Reigns later. Do it the way Evolution should have done it. Rollins (Orton) turns face and gets the better of the golden boy Ambrose (Triple H) and then goes off and does his own thing - Reigns (Batista) sticks with Ambrose (HHH) all the way through until he finally gets sick of his shit and beats him in a 1-on-1 match.
When Summerslam was coming around there was a booking challenge on here and I booked from Summerslam up until 'Mania XXX. I did a Shield break up story as part of that and the simple structure of it was:
- Rollins/Reigns lost tag titles when Rollins was pinned at NoC - Rollins/Reigns lost #1 contenders match when Rollins was pinned on a RAW. - Reigns turned on Rollins and started destroying him, Ambrose made the fake save and turned on him too. - Next PPV Ambrose beats Rollins to retain US Title at Battleground following Reigns interference (Reigns is acting more like a bodyguard now) - Ambrose/Reigns claim they're the better Shield team members and challenge the Tag Champs (they were The Usos in my scenario) only to lose thanks to Rollins interference. Rollins beats both men into retreat with a steel chair post-match. - Ambrose keeps insulting Rollins and hiding behind Reigns. RAW GM (Maddox in my scenario) makes Ambrose/Rollins II for next PPV - Reigns vs. Rollins for the right to pick the stipulation of the PPV Title match takes place on RAW. Rollins wins, chooses to have Reigns banned from ringside. Any interference sees Ambrose stripped of the title essentially. - Rollins overcomes constant Ambrose cheating to win the Championship at Hell In A Cell. End of Rollins/Ambrose story. Rollins goes off to do his own thing. Ambrose and Reigns still operating as a unit (Reigns as bodyguard) - Ambrose was a part of a Survivor Series team (on Team Lesnar vs. Team Punk in my scenario) - Ambrose wins #1 contender to WHC match at TLC - Rumble WHC match becomes triple threat (Ziggler is Champ, Henry - heel - is added to match) - Henry has Ambrose beat but Reigns spears Henry (no DQ's in a 3-way) ref orders Reigns away from ringside and a recovering Ambrose gets Zig Zagged by Ziggler. - Ambrose unhappy Reigns failed to help him in the title match. - Ambrose is in Elimination Chamber match - makes it to final two with Ziggler and loses after Reigns fails to pass him the brass knuckles in time and he gets Zig Zagged. - On RAW Ambrose really blames Reigns this time, calls him "worthless ingrate". Reigns snaps - spear, powerbomb. - Reigns beats Ambrose at WM decisively after a spear, powerbomb combo.
I really don't see why they couldn't do a slightly shorter version of this storyline (obviously with different players since Ziggler won't be World Champ etc.) It seems so organic and covers all areas of the split pretty well.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Nov 6, 2013 20:50:10 GMT -5
I basically said this in the News & notes thread:
Why should the fans care if Reigns (or Rollins) is switched to a face. He has minimal character development. Which gives fans no reason to invest in him as a face.
Ambrose is the only guy with some character development, he pretty much comes off as a "sick ****."
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Nov 6, 2013 21:06:23 GMT -5
I basically said this in the News & notes thread: Why should the fans care if Reigns (or Rollins) is switched to a face. He has minimal character development. Which gives fans no reason to invest in him as a face. Ambrose is the only guy with some character development, he pretty much comes off as a "sick ****." Because Reigns finally spearing the f*** out of cocky Ambrose should theoretically induce a pop of monstrous proportions
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Post by mizerable on Nov 6, 2013 21:10:10 GMT -5
As much as I dread the idea of a split, I'd dig a monster LOD/R&R Express hybird style tag team with Reigns and Rollins.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Nov 6, 2013 21:12:22 GMT -5
I basically said this in the News & notes thread: Why should the fans care if Reigns (or Rollins) is switched to a face. He has minimal character development. Which gives fans no reason to invest in him as a face. Ambrose is the only guy with some character development, he pretty much comes off as a "sick ****." Because Reigns finally spearing the f*** out of cocky Ambrose should theoretically induce a pop of monstrous proportions For a week or two. Then say "hi" to the low card.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2013 21:20:05 GMT -5
Because Reigns finally spearing the f*** out of cocky Ambrose should theoretically induce a pop of monstrous proportions For a week or two. Then say "hi" to the low card. Nah, Reign's been pushed like a wrecking ball since his debut and he's related to the Rock. He'll be fine.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Nov 6, 2013 21:21:47 GMT -5
For a week or two. Then say "hi" to the low card. Nah, Reign's been pushed like a wrecking ball since his debut and he's related to the Rock. He'll be fine. I disagree. The wrecking ball thing only goes so far...
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Post by xCompackx on Nov 6, 2013 21:48:44 GMT -5
Nah, Reign's been pushed like a wrecking ball since his debut and he's related to the Rock. He'll be fine. I disagree. The wrecking ball thing only goes so far... It doesn't have to, though. Turning face from a group like The Shield really doesn't have to be complex at all to work. Ambrose acting like a douche and Reigns (and Rollins, possibly) getting tired of it and turning on him would work fine, I think.
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Nov 6, 2013 22:12:35 GMT -5
Nah, Reign's been pushed like a wrecking ball since his debut and he's related to the Rock. He'll be fine. I disagree. The wrecking ball thing only goes so far...
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Nov 6, 2013 22:14:34 GMT -5
I disagree. The wrecking ball thing only goes so far... It doesn't have to, though. Turning face from a group like The Shield really doesn't have to be complex at all to work. Ambrose acting like a douche and Reigns (and Rollins, possibly) getting tired of it and turning on him would work fine, I think. And, then what? To midcard purgatory. It's not super hard to give him some quirks & characteristics while building him up. Then have him turn face. But, the WWE is fast tracking this, so they'll try to give it to us all in one night, a setup for failure.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Nov 6, 2013 22:29:14 GMT -5
I can see both Rollins and Reigns turning face. Ambrose being batshit crazy, obsessive and greedy makes the entire Shield all about him and because he sorta has the leader role of the group, he ends up using Rollins and Reigns.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Nov 6, 2013 22:29:36 GMT -5
I basically said this in the News & notes thread: Why should the fans care if Reigns (or Rollins) is switched to a face. He has minimal character development. Which gives fans no reason to invest in him as a face. Ambrose is the only guy with some character development, he pretty much comes off as a "sick ****." Because Reigns finally spearing the f*** out of cocky Ambrose should theoretically induce a pop of monstrous proportions Or have him turn on The Authority by either helping to stop a gang beatdown or something.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Nov 6, 2013 23:18:38 GMT -5
Because Reigns finally spearing the f*** out of cocky Ambrose should theoretically induce a pop of monstrous proportions Or have him turn on The Authority by either helping to stop a gang beatdown or something. And then what? It'll get an initial pop, and after a few weeks he'll drop down the card. Storytelling people. Create characters with emotions & backgrounds, then have conflict...
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 6, 2013 23:20:25 GMT -5
Ambrose can turn his face in so many different ways.
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Post by Indiana Miz on Nov 6, 2013 23:32:13 GMT -5
Seth is the only one I want to see as a face. Mainly because I miss this.
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