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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 9:59:08 GMT -5
...why the hell would I want anyone to lose their job? There can be reasons why it would be benificial for certain guys to leave the WWE, whilst jobbers are always needed, a guy who is never on TV isn't a jobber just a guy who isn't on TV, however JTG, Yoshi (for Japanese PR) and Ryder are always useful just in case someone is needed to do the Jamie Noble to put the next Sheamus over....but guys who would long term benifit from a WWE release are: Khail/Rey: Both are (I assume) financially secure and quitting now might ensure they have a more comfortable middle age. Tensei: Maybe more professionally rewarding for him to be a monster in Japan, might make more money (I have no idea how much wrestlers in Japan earn!). Miz/Kofi: Would be main eventers (at least Joe/AJ level) in TNA. A TNA main eventer probably makes similar to a WWE midcarder, although Miz could make $ in WWE as a commentator/PR guy. Depends on what he wants at this stage in his career. Lawler: Would be more early retirement than losing his job and might want to take it easy after his health scare. Any diva (except Rosa) would go to the top of the KO division, however there are troubling tales about how TNA treats/pays it's KOs so a risk. Long shot! Santino, I like him, he's over and has a job if he wants it for the next few years at least, however isn't he some judo/MMA badass, maybe he might want to give one last shot at the martial arts scene before he gets too old. Mark Henry/Big Show: Due to their size and appearence they could both find minor acting roles easy to come by and they might be tempted as retirement is looming and acting would be less demanding on their bodies than wrestling.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Nov 12, 2013 10:04:48 GMT -5
I just want to preface this by saying this is not what I would do if this was my company because you have a big chance of losing money since there are some really popular superstars in my list. But I'm just getting rid of my ten least favourite people in the company so that I, as a fan, wouldn't have to suffer through them anymore.
1) The Big Show 2) Curtis Axel 3) Alberto Del Rio 4) Bray Wyatt 5) Erick Rowan 6) Los Matadores (Counting them as one since they are pretty much one entity) 7) The Miz 8) Ryback 9) Sheamus 10) The Great Khali
Didn't count other personnel such as Lawler and Hornswoggle (both of whom would have been gone) since I strictly stuck to active wrestlers and I didn't include the diva's because I could probably get rid of ten of them on their own and I didn't count the development system since I don't catch enough of NXT to make proper judgement of them. But those are the 10 male active wrestlers on the main roster I would release. Either because they inspire complete apathy from me or because they make me want to skip their segments because they annoy me so much.
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Post by Reflecto on Nov 12, 2013 10:09:02 GMT -5
That's the only one. I don't agree with the idea that someone should be released just because they're not a potential main eventer. With proper booking, time management, and some changes in philosophy, everyone else can serve some kind of purpose on the roster, even someone deemed "useless" like Curtis Axel. I can see this point- but it doesn't change that there is some dead weight that does need to be handled in WWE just to get out of the purposes. Blatant cuts would be too much when there is a hope of getting something out of them, but there are some people just clogging up spots to get rid of some hopelessly dead weight and just freshen the show up a bit. With this in mind, I'd cut: 1- Rosa Mendes- It's never going to happen in the ring, not mega-over, not super-charismatic. I could at least give the two newbies the benefit of the doubt for now- sort of- but after seven years? Yeah, it's not happening. 2- Evan Bourne- Too many drug problems, coming back from injury so the "good karma" has finished- better to let him walk away now before risking him being blackballed for a year. 3- Ezekiel Jackson- They tried him. Many times. He failed. Many times. They have better Ezekiel Jacksons that have taken. No longer necessary. 4- Hornswoggle- he outlived his usefulness years ago, and now they finally have a new "fun mini-performer" in El Torito. 5- Rey Mysterio- He's being held together by duct tape, he has two strikes. If there was ever a case for the employment equivalent of a mercy killing, Rey is that right now. 6- Curt Hawkins- he barely gets used on the Z-shows right now even jobbing, better to just clean the spot out for a new name. 7- JTG- See Curt Hawkins. 8- Alicia Fox- Better than Rosa Mendes, but WWE can't even decide if she's a face or a heel. She's not mega-over, WWE has better Divas in NXT right now- better to clear the roster spot. 9- R-Truth- He's been tried, he's been failed, he's been relegated to jobberdom. If they're only keeping him around so TNA can't take him back, I'd personally think "let them." 10- Christian. He's had a great career, but having said that: See R-Truth.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Nov 12, 2013 10:24:11 GMT -5
Big Show - Not necessarily released, per se. I love the Big Show, I think he's a funny dude, fairly charismatic and has been at worst a solid worker for over a decade now. That all said...he should not be a featured player in the company. He should not for all intents and purposes flirting with the notion he's the face of the company, like this whole Orton thing is. He should be moved into a part time position, a special attraction, like Brock and the Undertaker.
Camacho - They clearly don't got anything for this guy. He's still fairly rough around the edges too. I'd release him, let him get some polish and bring him back if he manages to show he's still got a passion...and maybe when they've got something of value for him.
Christian - I say this as a man that is a major fan of Christian's. He was the one I rooted for when Edge & he broke up, he was the one I saw the star potential in, I loved Jericho and him together, him growing into his own. I was pumped when he seemingly righted the wrongs the company did to him by going to TNA and proving he can go. I was even more pumped when he came back and proved it again on ECW. But now...now it's clear they got nothing for him. It speaks volumes when the man's healed up and they still keep him sitting on the bench. I think he'd be better off getting dropped, making room for new blood and letting him go to Japan or Mexico or hit up a few spot shows like ROH.
Eva Marie - Seriously. No. Go away.
Ezekiel Jackson - Actually I like Big Zeke. But the guy's been banged up and he's obviously got other passions for other things. I don't think there's a real big loss in dropping him, even if only for the time being. He hasn't been on TV and his role on TV has been filled by others.
Hornswoggle - He has a weird career of either being completely irrelevant, like he is right now, or being waaaaay too much all over the program. I'm sure he's a great guy and everything, but right now he's taking up space. The axe.
Jojo - Again. Seriously. No. Go away.
Kofi Kingston - Perhaps a bold choice...but it's time. Guy's been going through the motions literally for his entire career. The man's only ever had one legitimate storyline/feud in his entire career in the company and he hasn't evolved at all, both in the ring & in terms of character. His contemporaries have all passed him by and even some that have come after him have moved by him. Worst of all, he takes a spot from less featured, but far more talented guys or guys with far more upside. Let somebody else get a few US or IC title reigns.
Rosa Mendes - Do I need to really explain this one? Waste of space.
The Great Khali - I cringe every time he comes down to the ring, and not because his skills in the ring (or lack thereof).
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 12, 2013 12:51:50 GMT -5
Swagger - it's dead, let it go. Kofi - he's mildly over but has done nothing of note in his entire career. Hornswoggle - Need I say more? Curtis Axel - He is just impossibly bland, he really is, and worse yet, the fans don't give a f***. Zeke - When did we last see him? His moveset is three scoop slams and a torture rack. f*** off. Yoshi Tatsu - Because who cares?
And fill up the rest with Divas, starting with Rosa and getting less shitty from there.
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Post by 67 more on Nov 12, 2013 12:57:47 GMT -5
1 - Camacho - Absolutely useless so far. I'd keep Hunico all day though.
2 - Booker T - What exactly do you do now?
3 - Teddy Long - See Booker T.
4 - Rosa Mendes - Botched standing still.
5 - Jerry Lawler - He couldn't give less of a shit.
6 - Sin Cara - Flop. Flop. Flop.
7 - Ezekiel Jackson - Hasn't been seen in over a year despite being healthy
8 - Ricardo Rodriguez - Love the guy but think WWE have f***-booked him into a corner.
9 - Josh Mathews - Michael Cole has become a better play-by-play than the guy.
10 - Alex Riley - Never going to amount to much as a wrestler and a God-awful commentator.
Honorable mention - Rey Mysterio - Not so much release as forcibly retire, perhaps make him a full-time Spanish commentator.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 12, 2013 12:58:21 GMT -5
Honestly none of them except maybe Hornswoggle, Khali and one or two others
For the rest, I could find more constructive roles for them
The problem in WWE is management, not the roster.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Nov 12, 2013 13:12:12 GMT -5
I'd just find a way to use my 6 to 8 hours of televison time to showcase more than the same 20 people.
Think about it, more over midcarders than just Santino and Kofi? More merchandise? More money? What a crazy idea, I know.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Nov 12, 2013 14:04:39 GMT -5
Glad nobody said Santino, that's a guy you keep forever because he always gets a pop.
I am boggled that someone would want to fire two thirds of 3MB and the one he would keep is Slater.
If you keep one, you keep Drew, no question about it.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Nov 12, 2013 14:07:20 GMT -5
John Cena, Randy Orton, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Big Show, The Shield, Triple H and the Undertaker. Because I'm trying to put the WWE Out of Business
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Nov 12, 2013 14:58:03 GMT -5
I can't agree with those wanting to release Kingston. While I agree, he's extremely stale, the dude has never been repackaged and not really been given any sort of shot. I'm not ready to give up on him. These, I'm ready to give up on:
The Miz - Stephanie emasculated him completely a few weeks ago, which IMO said a lot about how the company views him. I don't think this is entirely his fault, but I also don't think he's cut out for his current role. He's in desperate need of a long break or a heel turn to see if he can get a foothold again. He is probably the #1 guy on the roster that could be the next Matt Striker, in that he could be taken out of the ring and given another role in a non-wrestling capacity except could actually excel.
The Great Khali - The ship has sailed. He's a huge star in India and I see why they keep him around, but he can't even walk and seems like a detriment when he's in the ring.
Zack Ryder - Like Miz and Kofi, another guy that could benefit from a repackaging/new direction. I was actually stunned when he was doing the Shopzone commercial last night and seriously did the "Woo woo woo" line. I laughed at how stupid he looked and sounded. He's a guy that I could see benefit from a release and then he goes off to Japan and gets more well rounded. One of the biggest problems I've seen in recent years is how one dimensional guys are, both in the ring and character wise. I blame the talents and WWE for this for their creative methods, but then we see people like Bryan, Punk, and Ambrose who clearly have a bit of depth in many respects because of their experiences elsewhere. Someone had the idea of a WWE NWA style thing with WWE Japan and that sort of thing. What I think would be better is a talent sharing program with a fed in another country, where guys can get experience working in a completely different environment and help them grow in many ways. Ryder is a guy that has talent, but is beyond stale at this point.
Tons of Funk - Brodus is boring and will never be an attraction, even if he was built up as a monster heel. Tensai was so poorly booked on his return that its basically killed him....again. I can see Tensai being saved and something made of him, but Brodus is cooked.
Alberto del Rio - The audience just doesn't care and will likely never care. Easily the most talented of the guys I've listed here, but no matter how hard he and the company tries, he hasn't caught on. He gets little to no heat, and no one buys him as a face either. This guy is like an island in that its not really his or the WWE's fault, it's just not working. I don't think a repackaging can even save him. I don't think he will ever get over.
Eva Marie - Attractive, but not reason enough to keep one of the densest, annoying, superficial, and bland people to ever be in the company. The only thing I care about is when she's going to get the axe. I have no doubts in my mind that she will do something that will cause her to be fired before Wrestlemania 31. The clock is simply ticking on her.
Sin Cara - What a waste.
Lawler - It's just time.
There's other guys that could be considered "dead weight", but I don't want to write anymore. These are the ones that stand out to me.
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Post by odor31 on Nov 12, 2013 15:35:08 GMT -5
Aksana - Haven't seen any improvement. Or TV time. Camacho - Only know him has Hunico's second fiddle. Sure, might be good, however, why keep what you won't promote. Curt Hawkins - Seems like he'd be better traveling the indy circuit. Hornswoggle - El Torito is here. And Hornswoggle got complacent and gained weight. JTG - C'mon now. Jinder Mahal - No pops. No heat. Nothing. Brings nothing to the table. Rosa Mendes - No improvement. Liability. Theodore Long - Put him out to pasture. No talent. Yoshi Tatsu - Never saw any kind of 'it factor' with him. Zack Ryder - Let him ride it out on the indies, sell merch, and post YouTube complaint videos. His ship has sailed, unfortunately.
Honorable Mention: R-Truth
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Post by Bo Rida on Nov 12, 2013 15:48:14 GMT -5
Honorable mention - Rey Mysterio - Not so much release as forcibly retire, perhaps make him a full-time Spanish commentator. A guardian of the Spanish announce table gimmick would be amazing, every time somebody tries to put another wrester through it Rey springs up from commentary to defend it, when he doesn't succeed he spends the rest of the show sobbing over the wreckage.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Nov 12, 2013 15:52:42 GMT -5
Honorable mention - Rey Mysterio - Not so much release as forcibly retire, perhaps make him a full-time Spanish commentator. A guardian of the Spanish announce table gimmick would be amazing, every time somebody tries to put another wrester through it Rey springs up from commentary to defend it, when he doesn't succeed he spends the rest of the show sobbing over the wreckage. Or tries putting it back together...
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Nov 12, 2013 16:36:01 GMT -5
I'm doing this specifically because it would be a tough practice for me because my ideal roster would if anything be larger than this one (by a lot)
Using only main roster guys you can see on the main roster page...
Jerry Lawler - This one would be semi conditional though. Like if the WWE would just make Cole/JBL the commentary team for both shows it would feel pointless. I mean I feel like Jerry needs to be gone anyway through because he's stale as hell on commentary. But part of the condition of this would be that SOMEONE else be added to the color commentary mix to freshen things up. Preferably Regal. Sin Cara - A bit of a mercy kill, as a few of these releases are. I just think it would be better for his career and legacy for him to go back to Mexico where he's a legend than stay in WWE and be the lost cause he seriously seriously so badly is. Ryback - Another mercy kill, I feel like he would end up being picked up by NJPW or another Japanesse company and get the chance to do the big guy gets good in Japan thing, and maybe even come back in 4 to 6 years. Or not. Rosa Mendes - Dead weight and should have been fired ages ago, hasn't been an asset since they split her and Ryder up for whatever reason. Can't work and has lost her spark as a manager. Hornswoggle - Bit of a cop out answer sure but since I actually have a list of over 20 people I realized I could do without the fact that I'm still putting him in does in fact mean something. Eva Marie - I know she's still untrained and its still early in her career but I just don't even see potential in her. No raw athleticism, no charisma, and not that hot. The Great Khali - I always fire him right away when I boot up a new game of EWR or TEW, he's one of the few active wrestlers I that with too. He's useless to me. If he's on the roster than he has to be used in matches, and those matches will always suck. He may very well be the only active male wrestler on the roster he's not at least a pretty good worker. He sticks out like a sore thumb in a roster thats all pretty strong in ring. Tensai - Idk my hesitation on this is that I'm not fully sure what I'd do with Brodus Clay without him but I like Brodus and don't want to fire him. Like this is a mercy kill for me because I believe his legacy as a performer will be greater should he finish out his career as Giant Bernard in New Japan than if he keeps doing what he's doing, and yes I know he's here for his family but thats not really whats on my mind if I'm being honest. Alberto Del Rio I quite liked him back when he first turned face and I wish he was still face because well I must have been one of the small handful of people who was charmed by his face turn. Since he's turned heel again I've lost all interest in him. Teddy Long - He's been on the roster in one way or the other for so long its just he's so overexposed I just don't see a need for him anymore
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 23:05:38 GMT -5
Kevin Dunn - Scumbag who epitomizes a lot of what's wrong with modern-day WWE.
Alex Riley - Can't wrestle or talk.
Michael Cole - Has been consistently bad for the entirety of his career. Shows no genuine passion or knowledge of wrestling and actively detracts from the on-screen product.
Ezekiel Jackson - I like the dude, but in all honesty he can't wrestle or talk, and hasn't even been on TV in over a year.
Hornswoggle - We already have Santino to do comedy stuff.
The Great Khali - See above.
Eva Marie - Hot, but is an abysmal wrestler and apparently has a big ego.
Brad Maddox - Awful wrestler, mediocre at best talker. Like The Miz but with far less upside, and I say this as someone who generally hates Miz.
David Otunga - See above, but put further emphasis on the "awful wrestler" part.
Yoshi Tatsu - I like him, but he's being wasted in WWE.
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