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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 23:50:51 GMT -5
So, the moral is, if it sounds like, "Hee-ull," Cena wants nothing to do with it.
Seriously though, it's feeling to me more and more like Cena's career isn't going to last much longer. All the news about the guy over the past couple of years or so has mostly just been him being hurt more and more, he's not taking the time to recover properly (at least give that to Mysterio and Taker - they may be made of glass, but at least they sit around a long damn time before they come back), and oddly even when still being the top guy and getting tons of screen time and all of that over the past few years he's still been feeling more and more irrelevant and out of place on the roster.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 14, 2013 23:54:25 GMT -5
You know, this also brings up the possibility that the reason Cena's wrestling for the B-title and isn't being treated like THE guy at the moment isn't that WWE's trying to freshen up the product or give other guys a chance to shine, it's that they don't have confidence that Cena's in good enough shape to build any long-term angles around, and they're prepared to have to write him out again on short notice.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 15, 2013 0:04:44 GMT -5
You know, this also brings up the possibility that the reason Cena's wrestling for the B-title and isn't being treated like THE guy at the moment isn't that WWE's trying to freshen up the product or give other guys a chance to shine, it's that they don't have confidence that Cena's in good enough shape to build any long-term angles around, and they're prepared to have to write him out again on short notice. It's probably both. And this isn't selfishness on his part. If he really wanted to be vindictive and keep the WWE spotlight solely focused on himself, he'd use whatever clout he has in order to worm his way into Best For Business. What we're presently witnessing is just good old fashioned stupidity. |
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Post by Boo! on Nov 15, 2013 0:06:41 GMT -5
At this point, he can count on being in a wheelchair sooner rather than later. The guy is consistently plagued with injuries, it seems. That's going a bit far. I don't like this morbid curiosity with wrestlers ending up in wheelchairs. For about 15 years now every time Kurt Angle stubbed his toe the whole internet would explode with "That's it - wheelchair" alarmism |
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Nov 15, 2013 0:06:46 GMT -5
Did Zack Ryder pack him any Senzu beans on the European Tour?
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 15, 2013 0:07:42 GMT -5
So, the moral is, if it sounds like, "Hee-ull," Cena wants nothing to do with it. Holy shit. No way I'm letting this joke get slept on. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 15, 2013 0:12:05 GMT -5
At this point, he can count on being in a wheelchair sooner rather than later. The guy is consistently plagued with injuries, it seems. That's going a bit far. I don't like this morbid curiosity with wrestlers ending up in wheelchairs. For about 15 years now every time Kurt Angle stubbed his toe the whole internet would explode with "That's it - wheelchair" alarmism Kurt Angle is a bit of a nutcase. A good chunk of the world thinks that he'll be the next big wrestling tragedy and they're just counting the seconds until he breaks. I don't think Cena is doing that badly though |
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Post by mizerable on Nov 15, 2013 0:15:43 GMT -5
] For about 15 years now every time Kurt Angle stubbed his toe the whole internet would explode with "That's it - wheelchair" alarmism 15 years? 10, maybe. But even then, Kurt's issues weren't major until about 2005. He had neck issues in 2003, but it didn't translate to "retire Kurt" like it did a few years later. |
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Post by StuntGranny® on Nov 15, 2013 0:19:10 GMT -5
At this point, he can count on being in a wheelchair sooner rather than later. The guy is consistently plagued with injuries, it seems. That's going a bit far. I don't like this morbid curiosity with wrestlers ending up in wheelchairs. For about 15 years now every time Kurt Angle stubbed his toe the whole internet would explode with "That's it - wheelchair" alarmism You almost have to expect it with the way a lot of these guys treat their bodies. For some, it's not just the injuries you have to worry about. You also have 'substances' that are going in. |
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Nov 15, 2013 6:05:55 GMT -5
Cena's pride is getting in the way of his sense. I think he's honestly so ingrained with WWE that he doesn't know how to really function outside of it for longer than a day or two off once in awhile. If you're always in the spotlight, have all these Make A Wish kids that call on you, and you have WWE that relies so heavily on your very presence, it's gotta be a jarring transition to all of a sudden have extended time off against your will. I'm not saying he doesn't like his downtime, but if that downtime is holding him back from what he sees as obligations, that might be skewing his judgment on injuries and when to just take time off. I can't imagine how insane his life must be like...
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Post by willywonka666 on Nov 15, 2013 7:58:48 GMT -5
While it's admirable to work hard, most companies don't really give 2 shits when you are washed up. I'm sure Cena will have a job for life at the E and they do care, but I can't help but think of Paul Orndorff and his bad arm because he wouldn't take time off when he needed to because of his red hot feud with Hogan
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Post by Boo! on Nov 15, 2013 8:03:52 GMT -5
For a lot of guys, before the guaranteed contracts kicked-in, they'd volunteer to work through the pain as unless you worked you weren't ever paid. Bret wrote in his book how he suffered an injury that incapacitated him and Vince assured him he'd be taken care of financially and the next week a cheque for $200 arrived. So he went back to work sooner than he should as he could not afford time off.
Then and even today another consideration could be the fear of losing the spot. There's little fear of that happening to Cena but some of the most insecure guys in the business have been the ones you'd think had the least to worry about, so maybe Cena falls into that trap. The fact he took time off but rushed back does maybe suggest that rather than being told "We need you back" he told them he was ready to return long before he was, maybe because he can't stand being away from what he loves or it could be jealousy of his spot.
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Nov 15, 2013 9:31:54 GMT -5
One day during a Cena match, we're gonna hear the glass shatter and everyone's going to lose their minds. But instead of Stone Cold coming out, it'll actually be the sound of John Cena's body completely falling apart.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 17:27:21 GMT -5
Cena's selfishness is hilariously ruinous. You're destroying your body and your very presence makes WWE refuse to push ANYONE as being your equal no matter what reactions they're getting or whatever else they're doing. It's got to be all about you, you, you. Go away for six months. Mentioning injured QBs, it's just like Robert Griffin III telling coach Shanahan he was ok to go out there in the playoff last year despite walking with a limp, and the fool gets badly injured and the team was without their starting QB. If you REALLY want to help your team, you damn glory hog, don't get yourself hurt. And that's how I feel toward Cena too. Because people decide to get injured? No, but if you're hurt, do you think going out there with an existing injury isn't going to make things worse? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 17:30:11 GMT -5
Cena's selfishness is hilariously ruinous. You're destroying your body and your very presence makes WWE refuse to push ANYONE as being your equal no matter what reactions they're getting or whatever else they're doing. It's got to be all about you, you, you. Go away for six months. Mentioning injured QBs, it's just like Robert Griffin III telling coach Shanahan he was ok to go out there in the playoff last year despite walking with a limp, and the fool gets badly injured and the team was without their starting QB. If you REALLY want to help your team, you damn glory hog, don't get yourself hurt. And that's how I feel toward Cena too. The fact that he's holding the pointless World Heavyweight Title and working on the B-show proves that he's NOT trying to make it about him. Simply by being on SmackDown with the B-title means that he IS bowing out of the spotlight, otherwise he'd be in the main storyline on RAW going after the WWE Title, but he's making room for others. It's not his fault that WWE STILL isn't pushing new talents or putting other underutilized guys on TV, even WHEN he was gone. That's the company's oversight. Yes and no. He's out of the spotlight of Raw, but Smackdown is now his own personal fief. To a large extent I'd say it is his fault. Look at Ryback. Massively over, cleared out of the way for a returning Cena to take the spotlight. Ryback was pushed to the main event specifically to plug the gaps. Once those gaps no longer existed, he was swatted down like a fly. |
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 15, 2013 18:01:13 GMT -5
Because people decide to get injured? No, but if you're hurt, do you think going out there with an existing injury isn't going to make things worse? Unless he is unsafe, then the only person it affects is him. If you want to complain about what he's doing to his future, blame WWE (or the NFL in RGIII's place) for creating an environment where guys are expected to work through being hurt for the sake of their careers, or for not making him take a lighter schedule while he did come back. The business practically forces people to work hurt. And in regards to the glory hog sentiment, it's not like it's his responsibility to make WWE push someone else, or, and let's be honest here, that his presence preventing them from pushing anyone. They're not pushing other people because they operate in the short run and don't like it when buyrates and ratings drop. Cena's presence has jack all to do with new people not being pushed, as WWE just proved, if it's not Cena, then it's Orton and Show. |
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Nov 15, 2013 18:18:34 GMT -5
Cena doesn't trust Nikki on the road without him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 18:36:25 GMT -5
No, but if you're hurt, do you think going out there with an existing injury isn't going to make things worse? Unless he is unsafe, then the only person it affects is him. If you want to complain about what he's doing to his future, blame WWE (or the NFL in RGIII's place) for creating an environment where guys are expected to work through being hurt for the sake of their careers, or for not making him take a lighter schedule while he did come back. The business practically forces people to work hurt. And in regards to the glory hog sentiment, it's not like it's his responsibility to make WWE push someone else, or, and let's be honest here, that his presence preventing them from pushing anyone. They're not pushing other people because they operate in the short run and don't like it when buyrates and ratings drop. Cena's presence has jack all to do with new people not being pushed, as WWE just proved, if it's not Cena, then it's Orton and Show. Cena doesn't have to do anything. He's their guy. Short of burying WWE on network news there's really nothing he can do to alienate them or lose his spot as the most important man on the active roster. If he wants to take some time off with Nikki or travel the world, what are they going to do? Tell him no and threaten to fire him? He's the big merchandise mover, the guy who has been plugged in to major angle after major angle. They may be scaling him back now, but that doesn't mean his influence is gone. And with RGIII, the Redskins mortgaged their future for a guy who had major knee surgery before his rookie season. If the whole team is built around him, why would they want to risk losing him for months when sitting him out for one game will help him recover? The pressure was actually on him to be honest about his health, and he lied and said he was ok when he clearly wasn't. Now they've given a ton of good picks to St. Louis and what do they have to show for it? A crippled liar. |
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 15, 2013 19:11:33 GMT -5
Unless he is unsafe, then the only person it affects is him. If you want to complain about what he's doing to his future, blame WWE (or the NFL in RGIII's place) for creating an environment where guys are expected to work through being hurt for the sake of their careers, or for not making him take a lighter schedule while he did come back. The business practically forces people to work hurt. And in regards to the glory hog sentiment, it's not like it's his responsibility to make WWE push someone else, or, and let's be honest here, that his presence preventing them from pushing anyone. They're not pushing other people because they operate in the short run and don't like it when buyrates and ratings drop. Cena's presence has jack all to do with new people not being pushed, as WWE just proved, if it's not Cena, then it's Orton and Show. Cena doesn't have to do anything. He's their guy. Short of burying WWE on network news there's really nothing he can do to alienate them or lose his spot as the most important man on the active roster. If he wants to take some time off with Nikki or travel the world, what are they going to do? Tell him no and threaten to fire him? He's the big merchandise mover, the guy who has been plugged in to major angle after major angle. They may be scaling him back now, but that doesn't mean his influence is gone. And with RGIII, the Redskins mortgaged their future for a guy who had major knee surgery before his rookie season. If the whole team is built around him, why would they want to risk losing him for months when sitting him out for one game will help him recover? The pressure was actually on him to be honest about his health, and he lied and said he was ok when he clearly wasn't. Now they've given a ton of good picks to St. Louis and what do they have to show for it? A crippled liar. They mortgaged a few years on RGIII. They can easily go to another QB when RGIII's contract expires, and thanks to the new CBA, it's not like they're totally breaking the bank on him like they might have in the past when salaries were more than 3 times what they are now. If his backup comes in and does well, he may find his own position in danger, and the Redskins can easily shift gears in a year or two. Blame the culture of the NFL, and the Redskin's management for not putting benching him for that one game. As far as Cena goes, I'm not even sure what your arguing now. Again, it's WWE that made the environment what it was, those years of socialization aren't going to disappear just because a guy went up the card. Besides that, he's already traveled the world and his girlfriend is on the road, and they're not going to give infinite leeway to her just because she's dating Cena due to the fact that she's on another show for them. And he may actually like working, but that somehow would make him a selfish glory hog. And there's still the matter that it's ridiculous to blame him for who WWE decides to push. Raw, the main show, is open season and what do they go to? Orton vs. Big Show. Exactly how is it Cena's fault that they pull the plug when Bryan didn't draw like they wanted and they pulled the plug? |
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Nov 15, 2013 19:48:29 GMT -5
If only Cena had put over young over faces like Daniel Bryan and C.M.Punk... oh wait... he did. I think the man you're looking for has a big nose and talks about dis business.
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