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Post by mrjl on Nov 16, 2013 19:25:17 GMT -5
Bray is supposed to be scarier than the other two because he's partially civilized. He wears clean clothes, his beard is kept, and he can speak much more articulately. He's supposed to be the brains of the group, and necessarily the strongest if he can keep Harper and Rowan in line. As of right now, I'm not sure I buy it. WWE needs to make a point of showing why Bray gets to order the other two around. For some reason It seems like WWE are pushing them as three equals rather than two guys following a leader. Rowan and Harper are heavily protected and pushed as being just as much of a threat to the top talents as Bray Wyatt is. They don't look like a cult so much as just a swamp people version of The Shield. The only reason you can even tell that Bray is the leader is that he does all the talking. if they weren't we have no reason to believe Wyatt wouldn't toss them out. Bray obviously thinks. The other two just attack the nearest target
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EyeofTyr
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Post by EyeofTyr on Nov 16, 2013 19:25:32 GMT -5
It warms my heart to see people preaching the word I long preached myself on Luke back when he was Brodie Lee on the indies. Man is a talented son of a gun and the bigger indies snubbing him was WWE's gain, as he feels all the more like a product of theirs.
I will say this though, if you guys think he's good now? Oh man, you haven't seen crap yet. The dude is as athletic and as versatile as Antonio is. Something he actually got to show when the two of them feuded in CHIKARA in a nasty, big man series of drag-out, punch drunk brawls. His big boot and discus closeline might be his bread and butter, but the dude can go when he needs to.
One match I hope they do sometime next year actually is Cena vs. Harper and let Harper go all out on Cena like Antonio did recently. I think the two would gel in a very similar way as Luke and Antonio did in the past and create some great matches that could keep Cena fresh & elevate Harper.
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Post by BitterAF on Nov 16, 2013 19:32:52 GMT -5
He will be the new Kane in a few years. Will always come across as someone who can beat you. How he can be turned face 37 times a year, I'm not sure, but the guy is impressive.
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Post by Chip on Nov 16, 2013 19:47:48 GMT -5
EDIT: Found it! He sounds like a little kid who doesn't know how to speak and just imitates noises it's parents make. My brain = In the gutter.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Nov 16, 2013 20:46:53 GMT -5
The look on his face 99% of the time is very creepy. I would definitely say he is the MVP of The Wyatt's so far. The look on his face sometimes gives me the impression that he has no idea what's going on and just indiscriminately beats the shit out of people, but subconsciously has the mental wherewithal to execute a sweet big boot or discus clothesline. it's like he's suspicious of why he wants to rape them [/Cinema Snob] yeah I agree with the OP 100%. Wyatt's good on the mic but Harper's the real workhorse of the group. I could see him sticking around in a Kane-esque "always credible big guy" role if he plays his cards right.
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Nov 16, 2013 20:55:48 GMT -5
About how to treat Luke in a singles run:
You don't. As he is, there's not enough there for a real interesting long term character. He'd be fine in a mid-card feud for a while, but if he's ever to become "more" he'd need to have a gimmick revision. But yeah, future jobber-to-the-stars/WHC/etc is certainly there if the stars happen to align properly for him.
That said, what he is now is perfect for exactly where he's at. I'd have a hard time coming up with a better version of what he's supposed to be. Sometimes in wrestling you can't always think for the future, just appreciate the now. If any of that makes sense.
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Post by Talent Name on Nov 16, 2013 21:56:18 GMT -5
If you want to make Luke go solo have him do something similar to over the top, a truck driver that can not only arm wrestle but actually wrestle
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Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 17, 2013 3:38:58 GMT -5
About how to treat Luke in a singles run: You don't. As he is, there's not enough there for a real interesting long term character. He'd be fine in a mid-card feud for a while, but if he's ever to become "more" he'd need to have a gimmick revision. But yeah, future jobber-to-the-stars/WHC/etc is certainly there if the stars happen to align properly for him. That said, what he is now is perfect for exactly where he's at. I'd have a hard time coming up with a better version of what he's supposed to be. Sometimes in wrestling you can't always think for the future, just appreciate the now. If any of that makes sense. Barely, but I get what you're saying. At this moment in time, he's exactly where he should be. Dominant, protected tag team. Kind of reminds of the Acolytes.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Nov 17, 2013 4:00:04 GMT -5
About how to treat Luke in a singles run: You don't. As he is, there's not enough there for a real interesting long term character. He'd be fine in a mid-card feud for a while, but if he's ever to become "more" he'd need to have a gimmick revision. But yeah, future jobber-to-the-stars/WHC/etc is certainly there if the stars happen to align properly for him. That said, what he is now is perfect for exactly where he's at. I'd have a hard time coming up with a better version of what he's supposed to be. Sometimes in wrestling you can't always think for the future, just appreciate the now. If any of that makes sense. Barely, but I get what you're saying. At this moment in time, he's exactly where he should be. Dominant, protected tag team. Kind of reminds of the Acolytes. Perfect. We'll give Luke a suit, a limo, a cowboy hat, the WWE Title, and Orlando Jordan in 2 years too. New Boom Period.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 7:21:02 GMT -5
I'm not really sure why Bray is supposed to be the scary leader of the group. You've got 2 huge dudes who look like they came straight out of a Rob Zombie movie...then you've got a dumpy fat guy in a Hawaiian shirt. Granted, Bray is the best on the mic (as far as I know), I'm just going from a look standpoint. Bray is the leader because he's the charismatic cult leader type that has the ability to brainwash people into doing his bidding. Harper and Rowan are aimless, corrupted souls, and Wyatt has given them direction and purpose. And as these stories tend to go, they'll likely smarten up and turn on Bray after realizing they've been fed empty lies.
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Post by The Beast Disincarnate on Nov 17, 2013 8:00:45 GMT -5
So Harper is the Reigns of the Family and Wyatt is the Ambrose
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 17, 2013 9:35:21 GMT -5
So Harper is the Reigns of the Family and Wyatt is the Ambrose That would imply Rowan is the Rollins, and that's just not right.
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Post by Viking Snad on Nov 17, 2013 9:57:18 GMT -5
Harper vs Reigns for WM 31 Main Event?
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Post by CM Dazz on Nov 17, 2013 10:25:59 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of Harper. He's money as an upcoming monster heel IMO. I'd love to see him wrestle the Undertaker at WM31.
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Post by jwarr on Nov 17, 2013 11:24:35 GMT -5
Harper vs Reigns for WM 31 Main Event? Add Big E and make it WM 32 and that's a damn good/hard hitting match.
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Nov 17, 2013 11:37:50 GMT -5
he's already protected and treated as the "secret star" of the group even though he's not the leader (see Batista in early 05, Reigns now)
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Post by Lardlad on Nov 17, 2013 16:27:12 GMT -5
lancestorm. @lukeharperwwe needs to talk to @thetommydreamer about some spray hair. #RAW
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Post by Essential1 on Nov 17, 2013 16:34:38 GMT -5
He's a badass no doubt. Rowan is decent as well. Hopefully those two have brutal old school match when they break up.
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