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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Nov 17, 2013 23:20:49 GMT -5
Visually isn't more people impressive. As Monsoon would say, have the "sea of humanity" there encompassing everything. It'll be better for atmosphere too if they had people in a bowl around the ring rather than just three sides. You already get way more people than a regular show and it still looks impressive. The set and the lighting of it all is part of the spectacle now and it's cool to me. I've always liked my wrestling big. I know some people want "The Crowd and The Ring" and nothing else but at Wrestlemania? I like the crazy.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 17, 2013 23:24:41 GMT -5
I like what they've done in recent years where they've had the big stage, but it was still low enough for the higher tier of the grandstand behind it to have people in it.
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Post by Boo! on Nov 17, 2013 23:25:16 GMT -5
Visually isn't more people impressive. As Monsoon would say, have the "sea of humanity" there encompassing everything. It'll be better for atmosphere too if they had people in a bowl around the ring rather than just three sides. You already get way more people than a regular show and it still looks impressive. Yeah but a three sides stadium as it essentially is, won't get the same cacophony as a four sided one. It amplifies the noise. The stage, as any audio logistics expert will tell you, will absorb some of the sound and act, maybe in a small way, as a noise 'blocker'. I'm reminded of the PPV events at MSG. Not necessarily WM20 but those that have used the small entrance that was there. In it's own way it was unique and because of that impressive. Maybe giant stages are a bit passée now. How much more elaborate can they get? Seems as if half the time more effort goes into them than booking the show.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Nov 17, 2013 23:30:49 GMT -5
They need to bring back the classic WrestleMania theme music that they seem to think is Linda MacMahon's theme music.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Nov 17, 2013 23:33:49 GMT -5
They need to bring back the classic WrestleMania theme music that they seem to think is Linda MacMahon's theme music. It'd be cool as a nostalgia thing. I don't know about it actually coming back to be the theme every year. That song is so early 90s it hurts.
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Post by Boo! on Nov 17, 2013 23:35:05 GMT -5
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Nov 17, 2013 23:38:29 GMT -5
This is the one that is used as Linda's theme (and also on the menus of the WM Anthology dvds) linkI much prefer the late 80's/early 90's one you posted.
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Post by Starshine on Nov 17, 2013 23:39:52 GMT -5
Besides Mania 27 none of the stages have impressed me a ton. I really wouldn't mind if they did decide to tone it down.
But I'm generally not fussed on WWE's insistence on its flashy exterior. I'd rather they out more effort into something they've been completely failing at in recent years, time management.
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Post by Boo! on Nov 17, 2013 23:40:47 GMT -5
Ah that one. I prefer the heavy guitar one from WMs 6-8.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Nov 17, 2013 23:40:57 GMT -5
Yeah, that one...I would have sworn it was at every WM until XIV, but the classic classic one is superior.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Nov 18, 2013 0:40:10 GMT -5
Does WWE have a different seating chart than Ticketmaster? I mean, it's totally possible that they free up some of those gray sections. But, I think it's a pipedream to think they'll have a minimalist stage at WrestleMania XXX.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Nov 18, 2013 0:43:20 GMT -5
Ah that one. I prefer the heavy guitar one from WMs 6-8. It really made the Mean Gene updates BOSS.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 18, 2013 0:55:10 GMT -5
Kevin Dunn will sob and cry and WWE will eventually give him his giant stage/launchpad for pyrotechnics. My theory is that Dunn wanted to work for NASA, but was too ugly. You have never been around many NASA employees have you? Honestly no, but I'm sure they are better looking than he is.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 18, 2013 0:57:05 GMT -5
As far as the theme is concerned, for me it has to be the old skool one from WM VI to WM IX
I hated the one that Linda used. I also hate pretty much all the songs they have used since WM16 onwards, with the exception of one or two
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 18, 2013 0:59:56 GMT -5
But then Kevin Dunn won't get to put on his big shiny GAIZ WE'RE TOTALLY NOT WRASSLIN WERE ENTERTAINMETN overproduced clusterf*** spectacular! Seriously, though...they make such a deal about getting these arenas, might as well go for a smaller stage so they can fill the damn thing. In what conceivable way does a big flashy stage indicate that WWE is denying it's a wrestling show? No offense, but how does one even come to that conclusion? It's Wrestlemania. There's no sense in being understanded there, IMO.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Nov 18, 2013 1:05:59 GMT -5
You have never been around many NASA employees have you? Honestly no, but I'm sure they are better looking than he is. Eh..... Some are...but there are some that are the same if not worse than Dunn.
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Post by BigBadZ on Nov 18, 2013 1:08:17 GMT -5
Have a crazy stage, just don't put giant posts that blocks the view like palm trees at Miami. I did a search for tickets and the ones that pulled up were in the corner sections and said "obstructed viewing" and that worries me if I decide to go.
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Post by Boo! on Nov 18, 2013 1:08:48 GMT -5
But then Kevin Dunn won't get to put on his big shiny GAIZ WE'RE TOTALLY NOT WRASSLIN WERE ENTERTAINMETN overproduced clusterf*** spectacular! Seriously, though...they make such a deal about getting these arenas, might as well go for a smaller stage so they can fill the damn thing. In what conceivable way does a big flashy stage indicate that WWE is denying it's a wrestling show? No offense, but how does one even come to that conclusion? It's Wrestlemania. There's no sense in being understanded there, IMO. It's hard hard to come to the conclusion that WWE doesn't want people to know it's a wrestling show. The name is just an unfortunate inheritance. What with changing the company name to remove 'wrestling' and essentially banning the word on television, they're hardly flying the wrestling flag like the moustache people do gay pride. If the name value wasn't so big it'd probably have been changed to Mania by now, or WWE Mania, at least.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Nov 18, 2013 1:09:20 GMT -5
I would prefer the bigger stages if they had better content to put on the video walls.
The minitrons these days are glorified name plates. I remember when Kofi had this really cool beach paradise motif when they went to HD. Now, it's just a sea of green and whatever logo is on his t-shirt right now.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 18, 2013 1:10:25 GMT -5
Even from an entertainment point of view, the most dramatic Wrestlemania IMO was III, and they didn't need any flashing lights, mega stage, fireworks or other distractions to con the people into thinking that this was a mega event, which is what modern Wrestlemania's strike me as doing.
III looked spectacular for the sheer monumental visual of the Silverdome, which started in daylight and ended in darkness. They also built up the main event as if this was like two gods meeting. Even though the match wasn't good, it didn't matter. The build and setting was the selling point, and it had a great conclusion. Hogan slammed him, and beat him, clean. They wrote that storyline so perfectly, they were able to build a further two Wrestlemanias out of the fallout from it. It was incredible booking.
Modern Wrestlemanias just don't have that. Too many PPV's, too much WWE programming, repetitive feuds, endless rematches etc....just kills the specialness of it. You can have all the strobe lighting and giant video screens you want. It's no substitute for compelling booking, characters and storylines.
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