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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 0:11:03 GMT -5
....new face of the WWE is The Miz? Anyone else think this may actually happen?
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Post by BorneAgain on Nov 19, 2013 0:12:45 GMT -5
Given how much they've made him persona non grata and jobbed him out, its a hell of a jump for him to go from losing to Kane in a minute to WWE title picture.
Joining the Authority I can see, but replacing Orton strikes me as unlikely.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 19, 2013 0:13:10 GMT -5
If Miz joins the Authority he should be a mole that destroys them from the inside. Please? Please?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 0:13:20 GMT -5
Unlikely, but I would mark the hell out.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 19, 2013 0:17:16 GMT -5
I think it's just a way to make the WWE title match outcome look marginally less predictable, since otherwise we'd all take it for granted that Big Show would get cheated out of a win.
The thing is, if they want to use beating the corporate champion at Wrestelmania as a way to set up a guy as the new top face on par with Cena, it pretty much has to be someone at least as credible as Orton in the role. Beating Miz, even a Miz backed up by all the Authority's flunkies and interference, won't really acomplish that, because we all know he's just the Miz. Even Big Show still has the stink of decades' worth of being a JTTS on the fringes of the main event.
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 19, 2013 0:23:21 GMT -5
I think they made a mistake reverting Orton back to his 2007-2009 ruthless asskicker character. That's the Orton that made the fans turn him face. Smarmy 2002-2003 Orton would have worked better.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 19, 2013 0:37:13 GMT -5
I think they made a mistake reverting Orton back to his 2007-2009 ruthless asskicker character. That's the Orton that made the fans turn him face. Smarmy 2002-2003 Orton would have worked better. It's hard to really "revert" Orton to anything without it feeling awkward. But ruthless asskicker Orton is less awkward than trying to make back alley rapist Orton start acting like a cocky pretty boy. I like Ruthless Asskicker Orton, but he just doesn't fit as a corporate puppet. I don't think Miz would fit in that role either because he's supposed to be cocky, loud, and flashy frat boy. What they needed in this role was just a generic blank slate type of guy who could hold the belt while HHH and Steph gush over how awesome he is. Kind of like what Curtis Axel was to Paul Heyman only not portrayed as ridiculously incompetent. Orton's character evolution over the years made him a bad fit for this angle. The best bet they would've had for a Corporate Champion would've been to test a new talent. Someone like Barrah (if only those pesky work visa issues didn't get in the way). or changing Drew back into the Chosen One, or turning someone like Kofi or Cody heel. Or hell, turn Ryder put him in a suit, and give him a sudden megapush.
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Post by Starshine on Nov 19, 2013 0:39:33 GMT -5
It feels like anyone could have been in Orton's position. Like it seems like he's just there off to the side while Triple H and Stephanie are the main force to overcome.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 0:42:12 GMT -5
It feels like anyone could have been in Orton's position. Like it seems like he's just there off to the side while Triple H and Stephanie are the main force to overcome. It's really been a consistent thing for this storyline. I can't speak for whatever happened tonight, but they've repeatedly talked trash about him and made it clear he's always in danger of falling out of their good graces while making few attempts to actually help him... and yet despite him basically screwing up every step of the way so far they don't follow through on it. I keep getting the since they're intentionally writing it so they can ditch him at a moment's notice if they need to, and really if that's what you have to do to be comfortable with a guy main-eventing then he shouldn't be main-eventing. It really feels less like, "We want Orton as champion," and more, "He's the only guy in contention for the title we'll accept as champion."
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Post by sportatorium on Nov 19, 2013 0:47:19 GMT -5
I hope they find a way for Orton to beat Big Show in 5 minutes clean.
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Post by The Portable Stove on Nov 19, 2013 0:49:23 GMT -5
Honestly, I believe it should have been Miz from the get-go.
If Orton can feasibly be the "new face of the WWE", nine years after winning his first World Title, then I don't see how the "Most Must-See WWE Champion of All Time" couldn't have filled that role. Orton's been a cog in the wheel this entire time and it's doing nothing but hurting him.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Nov 19, 2013 0:52:55 GMT -5
I think it's just a way to make the WWE title match outcome look marginally less predictable, since otherwise we'd all take it for granted that Big Show would get cheated out of a win. The thing is, if they want to use beating the corporate champion at Wrestelmania as a way to set up a guy as the new top face on par with Cena, it pretty much has to be someone at least as credible as Orton in the role. Beating Miz, even a Miz backed up by all the Authority's flunkies and interference, won't really acomplish that, because we all know he's just the Miz. Even Big Show still has the stink of decades' worth of being a JTTS on the fringes of the main event. Not because you're a Sheamus guy, but Sheamus as Triple H's corporate champ to me would work better than Orton or the Miz. Cocky sarcastic corporate asskicking heel Sheamus isn't relly that different than cocky sarcastic corporate-without-intending-to-be asskicking babyface Sheamus.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 1:20:00 GMT -5
I think he'll take the "if you can't beat them, join them" approach like Kane did.
Miz as the Authority's mouthpiece/yes-man would be pretty funny.
Like the "get 'em a body bag" guy from Karate Kid.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 1:33:09 GMT -5
I'll laugh forever if HHH decides that Orton isn't getting it done so he somehow makes himself champ.
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Post by saintpat on Nov 19, 2013 1:42:24 GMT -5
I'll laugh forever if HHH decides that Orton isn't getting it done so he somehow makes himself champ. Nah, Trips would never do that would he? The guy that would make sense would be Ambrose -- proving his worth and his loyalty as leader of the Shield, and new enough that they would figure he'd toe the line if given the gold.
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Post by Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift on Nov 19, 2013 2:02:34 GMT -5
I love the idea that Orton, an unstable lunatic, was a bad choice that is now backfiring. I never thought they'd go there and I'm really enjoying it; him bitching to The Authority and then killing Brad Maddox and then almost threatening the Authority later in the night lit up Raw for me in a big way, I almost expected him to come flying out in the main event with RKOs and Punts for faces and heels alike.
But yeah, it's gotta Sheamus. He's perfect.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 19, 2013 2:18:40 GMT -5
Yeah, if Orton was replaced, the only viable choices would be Cena, Punk, or Sheamus. (Not Big Show. We've all seen Big Show get his ass kicked too many times for overcoming him to ever seem like a really big deal again.) Cena, no matter how stale his character is, is still too useful to WWE as a babyface to be worth turning, hence transitioning him into a secondary angle. Punk just did a year of being a heel world champ, and got cheered over most of his opponents throughout it. Which leaves Sheamus, who smarks already hate (and this entire angle basically consists of taking smarks' view on WWE's backstage politics and playing it out onscreen) and who already has history with Bryan. It would work.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Nov 19, 2013 9:52:38 GMT -5
I like Orton, but I'm cool with it. In fact, I think Orton has really good in his last few promos with his spoiled tantrum throwing egomaniac character. Having him quit or split from The Authority and putting Miz in his spot would boost the Best For Business angle.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Nov 19, 2013 9:58:50 GMT -5
It feels like anyone could have been in Orton's position. Like it seems like he's just there off to the side while Triple H and Stephanie are the main force to overcome. hell Triple H basically said Orton's just a placeholder for him and the belt is really his.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Nov 19, 2013 11:13:23 GMT -5
Yeah, if Orton was replaced, the only viable choices would be Cena, Punk, or Sheamus. (Not Big Show. We've all seen Big Show get his ass kicked too many times for overcoming him to ever seem like a really big deal again.) Cena, no matter how stale his character is, is still too useful to WWE as a babyface to be worth turning, hence transitioning him into a secondary angle. Punk just did a year of being a heel world champ, and got cheered over most of his opponents throughout it. Which leaves Sheamus, who smarks already hate (and this entire angle basically consists of taking smarks' view on WWE's backstage politics and playing it out onscreen) and who already has history with Bryan. It would work. Sheamus as corporate ass kicker would be amazing. The dude gets heat when he's a heel, and won't be cheered by smarks because of the whole Daniel Bryan history/HHH workout partner. That would be a great dynamic, and honestly, Sheamus is a better performer at this stage than Orton is.
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