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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2013 21:00:13 GMT -5
Do they feel like SurSer is gonna bomb Doesn't everyone? He probably won't make much of a difference, but Rey is the only other guy on the roster besides Cena who I can imagine having any actual positive effect on buys, no matter how small. But they have Alberto Del Rio killing it with the Latino demo, what do they need Rey for? In all seriousness, I see what you mean, but throwing him in with less than a week of hype seems like a pretty stupid reason to jeopardize his health. They could've at least built it for a few weeks REY MYSTERIO RETURNS TO PPV!, or saved his return for a singles match when he'd actually be ready for one.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 20, 2013 21:07:31 GMT -5
I love how Vince laments Summer Slam's buyrate and build, then follows that up by presenting arguably the worst built non-B PPV of the year. That guy makes no sense.
"We need to produce better shows with attractions people want to see! But first, here's some rematches, meaningless tags, and Big Show vs Randy Orton."
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Post by Ash Kingston on Nov 20, 2013 21:43:58 GMT -5
Do they feel like SurSer is gonna bomb Doesn't everyone? He probably won't make much of a difference, but Rey is the only other guy on the roster besides Cena who I can imagine having any actual positive effect on buys, no matter how small. I know I'd buy the PPV to see if this is the match where Rey's wheels literally come off... Swagger's gonna try to Patriot Lock him and his leg will just keep twisting.
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Post by jjdash on Nov 20, 2013 21:55:59 GMT -5
f***ing great journalism. Regarding this comment, now that it's been up for an hour or so, given that Dave Meltzer basically does the whole newsletter by himself, and I have been told by sources that this is what is happening, so basically he just writes a stream of consciousness and posts it without editing. I can’t even tell you this is true, it may or may not be, but that’s what I've heard from other people. Advice to people, if you write the number one wrestling newsletter, I would personally go through it a few times to see if it was well written, prior to sending it out. From reading these news and notes posts every so often, it is by far the weirdest thing that I have ever seen, the fact that people subscribe to his newsletter, and not to mention the fact that it is the number one source for wrestling. I guess he gets the scoops.
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Post by The Scuba Guy on Nov 20, 2013 22:02:17 GMT -5
f***ing great journalism. Regarding this comment, now that it's been up for an hour or so, given that Dave Meltzer basically does the whole newsletter by himself, and I have been told by sources that this is what is happening, so basically he just writes a stream of consciousness and posts it without editing. I can’t even tell you this is true, it may or may not be, but that’s what I've heard from other people. Advice to people, if you write the number one wrestling newsletter, I would personally go through it a few times to see if it was well written, prior to sending it out. From reading these news and notes posts every so often, it is by far the weirdest thing that I have ever seen, the fact that people subscribe to his newsletter, and not to mention the fact that it is the number one source for wrestling. I guess he gets the scoops. Seriously. People pay this guy money for what he writes, yet he doesn't care enough to change 'things' to something like 'items'? If you're going to just write whatever off the top of your head, just create a blog that people can read for free. Otherwise, he may as well draw a big middle finger and send it to his subscribers.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Nov 20, 2013 22:41:27 GMT -5
Regarding this comment, now that it's been up for an hour or so, given that Dave Meltzer basically does the whole newsletter by himself, and I have been told by sources that this is what is happening, so basically he just writes a stream of consciousness and posts it without editing. I can’t even tell you this is true, it may or may not be, but that’s what I've heard from other people. Advice to people, if you write the number one wrestling newsletter, I would personally go through it a few times to see if it was well written, prior to sending it out. From reading these news and notes posts every so often, it is by far the weirdest thing that I have ever seen, the fact that people subscribe to his newsletter, and not to mention the fact that it is the number one source for wrestling. I guess he gets the scoops. Seriously. People pay this guy money for what he writes, yet he doesn't care enough to change 'things' to something like 'items'? If you're going to just write whatever off the top of your head, just create a blog that people can read for free. Otherwise, he may as well draw a big middle finger and send it to his subscribers. Dave Meltzer's actual middle finger? He's got my money.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Nov 20, 2013 23:06:30 GMT -5
At least all of these are believable. If Strahan isn't the only Guest Host though, they really screwed up not getting that out there.
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Post by saintpat on Nov 21, 2013 0:40:57 GMT -5
They asked Mysterio to come back before he was ready? Why? Do they feel like SurSer is gonna bomb, but if they just get Rey in there with the Real Americans and Usos everything will be alright? Just seems dumb all around. Depends on his injury/medical situation. It could be that he/they have been told he's as good now as he's going to get, recovery-wise. If that's the case, might as well try to get one more Wrestlemania run before calling it quits. Of course that may not be the case, but it's entirely possible. And that may have been Rey's call.
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Post by CubsFan71 on Nov 21, 2013 1:10:59 GMT -5
Doesn't everyone? He probably won't make much of a difference, but Rey is the only other guy on the roster besides Cena who I can imagine having any actual positive effect on buys, no matter how small. I know I'd buy the PPV to see if this is the match where Rey's wheels literally come off... Swagger's gonna try to Patriot Lock him and his leg will just keep twisting. Its gonna be when Cesaro goes for the big swing. He's gonna start swinging him and get so much momentum that both legs will pop off sending Rey right up into the rafters.
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Post by Digital Witness on Nov 21, 2013 1:59:01 GMT -5
I know I'd buy the PPV to see if this is the match where Rey's wheels literally come off... Swagger's gonna try to Patriot Lock him and his leg will just keep twisting. Its gonna be when Cesaro goes for the big swing. He's gonna start swinging him and get so much momentum that both legs will pop off sending Rey right up into the rafters. I could see Swagger with the Patriot lock on one of Rey's legs screaming "WHY WON'T YOU TAP!?!?!?" while Rey's leaned up in the corner like Raven with a horrified/disgusted look on his face.
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Post by woowoowoox on Nov 21, 2013 2:10:08 GMT -5
I may be wrong because my seats weren't the best but it didn't look like Rey was having any problems with his leg at the Smackdown taping this week.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 21, 2013 4:38:48 GMT -5
Where I live it's not exactly uncommon to see grown men in their 30's and 40's wearing Cena shirts... I guess the world's just changed since I was 16. When I was 16, I was a huge wrestling fan. But I'd have seriously caught a lot of heat and been mocked by my social group if I wore a Hogan shirt. When you're a kid, it's fine. But as a teenager, you couldn't even wear any kind of shoes other than Nike, Converse or Reeboks without being chastised. It's like the most shallow, superficial, clique-ish age there is. Maybe it's the nerd bubble today that's changed everything. Good for them, if it is. I find this hilarious, because I grew up during the Attitude Era when you couldn't walk down the street without seeing a black shirt with white writing on.
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Post by Chip on Nov 21, 2013 5:09:35 GMT -5
Hope Malenko's okay. Really hope Sheamus doesn't get a Streak match, there's not gonna be many of them left and (nothing against the guy but...) he's not on the level to get one in my opinion. At this point, baring Cena who's even left that's a credible threat to the streak? Sheamus despite being gone for 6 months by the time he returns will sadly be in a top spot to challenge for it, when I say sadly I don't meant that I don't want to see Sheamus challenge it because I do, it's just sad that he's still so high on the power level list.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 21, 2013 5:16:35 GMT -5
Hope Malenko's okay. Really hope Sheamus doesn't get a Streak match, there's not gonna be many of them left and (nothing against the guy but...) he's not on the level to get one in my opinion. Who is?
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Nov 21, 2013 6:03:03 GMT -5
Hope Malenko's okay. Really hope Sheamus doesn't get a Streak match, there's not gonna be many of them left and (nothing against the guy but...) he's not on the level to get one in my opinion. Who is? Cena....Lesnar.......
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 21, 2013 7:11:15 GMT -5
I guess the world's just changed since I was 16. When I was 16, I was a huge wrestling fan. But I'd have seriously caught a lot of heat and been mocked by my social group if I wore a Hogan shirt. When you're a kid, it's fine. But as a teenager, you couldn't even wear any kind of shoes other than Nike, Converse or Reeboks without being chastised. It's like the most shallow, superficial, clique-ish age there is. Maybe it's the nerd bubble today that's changed everything. Good for them, if it is. I find this hilarious, because I grew up during the Attitude Era when you couldn't walk down the street without seeing a black shirt with white writing on. I was born 11 years before you. There was a stigma that it was for kids when I was a teenager. Keep in mind this was around 1993 at the height of WWE's corniness. WWE in the late 90's however was targeted at the teenage demo and presented as edgy and cool. It was a completely different ball game then.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Nov 21, 2013 7:18:42 GMT -5
I don't see why people are saying Reigns is so great, I mean he's good, but the other two Sheild guys just kind of outshine him. But cool. New stars are always welcome. I'm willing to be proven wrong on him.
And Sheamus, you're first memory is one of the best matches ever? These answer always seem to be dripping with falsehood. There were 8 other matches on the card. Outside of the two matches everyone knows it looks pretty forgettable, but quit pandering fella.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 21, 2013 7:21:28 GMT -5
I find this hilarious, because I grew up during the Attitude Era when you couldn't walk down the street without seeing a black shirt with white writing on. I was born 11 years before you. There was a stigma that it was for kids when I was a teenager. Keep in mind this was around 1993 at the height of WWE's corniness. WWE in the late 90's however was targeted at the teenage demo and presented as edgy and cool. It was a completely different ball game then. I know, I'm not saying you're wrong at all, I just meant it's amusing just how different things can be in such a relatively short space of time. We're only talking six years' difference between our formative years.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Nov 21, 2013 8:45:37 GMT -5
I don't see why people are saying Reigns is so great, I mean he's good, but the other two Sheild guys just kind of outshine him. But cool. New stars are always welcome. I'm willing to be proven wrong on him. And Sheamus, you're first memory is one of the best matches ever? These answer always seem to be dripping with falsehood. There were 8 other matches on the card. Outside of the two matches everyone knows it looks pretty forgettable, but quit pandering fella. See, if I became a wrestler and they asked me it'd be "RVD, Mysterio and Booker T Vs JBL, Dupree, and Suzuki!" Weird thing is, I'd already been watching for a while, but that's the earliest memory I can remember that I didn't watch on YouTube/isn't one of the big PPV matches everyone remembers.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Nov 21, 2013 8:55:47 GMT -5
Where I live it's not exactly uncommon to see grown men in their 30's and 40's wearing Cena shirts... Yeah, but 30 and 40 year olds typically have learned to care less about what their peers think than high schoolers. Yeah there's a difference between what 30 and 40 year olds will show their face in and what 16 year olds will show their face in. There's a reason why there's more stories about the 30 to 50 year olds in this thread. You stop giving a f*** around that age (theoretically anyway I'm 24 and still would feel like a social outcast for wearing a wrestling shirt and give a lot of f***s about it but I'm extra socially anxious and also kinda developmentally delayed so eh). But yeah I can't imagine maybe 16 year old kids in the in crowd throwing on Cena gear unless it was marketed remarkably well. They'll catch geeks who don't give half a shit but thats a fairly niche audience especially since not all geeks who dont give half a shit like wrestling so that audience is cut even smaller in size. There's a reason why most teen clothing brands market to the cool kids, if you can't get to them its hard to make a profit. At least thats my little armchair analysis of the industry I've got no 1st hard experience I'm just running off what I see in malls and my memories of highschool. I do remember at the Yu Gi Oh tournament I went to with a few of my friends that play competitively (I don't, I was just bored that weekend) there were like two guys who looked like maybe 20 at oldest but probably around 17 in wrestling gear. One guy in a Cena shirt and then another guy in a Ziggler shirt, pink wristape, and even his hair done like Dolph kind of. But yeah they both fall in that geeks that dont give a f*** that aren't going to grow your brand's image (harsh reality, sorry) category.
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