Boo!
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Post by Boo! on Nov 20, 2013 21:19:31 GMT -5
He was the best heel the company has had since JBL in terms of being able to sell himself as a heel you hated on the stick that didn't (unlike HHH) bore the pants off everyone. So why was he turned face? He's lost 70% of his edge now, I think. Someone like Punk should be a cocky, arrogant, opinionated asshole. Not someone who comes out wishing to address the 'WWE universe' or anything facey like that.
If anyone is meant to be a heel it's Punk. As heel he's awesome as face he's just a blander version of himself as heel.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Nov 20, 2013 21:21:30 GMT -5
He's a good face when he's simply kicking ass and breaking people's faces instead of making corny jokes.
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The Ichi
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 20, 2013 21:22:55 GMT -5
Because it's easier to get blood out of a stone than to get heel reactions out of Punk?
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 20, 2013 21:24:00 GMT -5
Well...he gets a huge pop every time he comes out so he must be doing something right.
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Professor Chaos
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Post by Professor Chaos on Nov 20, 2013 21:24:32 GMT -5
He should be a very over tweener pipebombing everyone face or heel. Basically like he was as a heel last time just without yelling at how much the crowd and their local sports teams suck.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 20, 2013 21:25:15 GMT -5
His entire act and mannerisms are better suited to being a heel, but he gets cheered too much not to be a face.
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Post by Y2M on Nov 20, 2013 21:26:10 GMT -5
I like him as a face. His last heel run I felt was way too forced. They were trying so hard to make him an evil scumbag, but the fans just didn't care.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 20, 2013 21:26:39 GMT -5
He's a good face when he's simply kicking ass and breaking people's faces instead of making corny jokes. Disagree. I think he's a great face when he's letting his natural sarcasm emerge, because he doesn't do it in a fashion where you wish he would take the situation more seriously (not a complaint of mine, but I know it is with others). I'll take that over him trying to be Straight Edge Stone Cold.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 20, 2013 21:26:46 GMT -5
Yes
He bores me as a heel.
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Sparkybob
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Post by Sparkybob on Nov 20, 2013 21:27:55 GMT -5
He isn't getting to get heel heat unless he gets into a scandal like the Edge/Lita/Matty thing where a real life issue effects his crowd reaction.
Keep him face until he's close to retirement.
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Boo!
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Post by Boo! on Nov 20, 2013 21:27:57 GMT -5
Because it's easier to get blood out of a stone than to get heel reactions out of Punk? Maybe that's the point. They make money out of a face that gets booed, why not a heel that gets cheered? Cena doesn't need to turn because of negative reactions so Punk shouldn't for positive ones.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2013 21:30:30 GMT -5
He's a better heel, but he did come off a title run of over a year mostly as a heel. It would really be dragging ass at this point.
Nonetheless, he'll probably be a heel again.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Nov 20, 2013 21:31:00 GMT -5
He's reached that point where he'll be cheered no matter what he does. Kurt "Beastiality Sex and I Hate Black People and Jesus" Angle was still cheered loudly no matter what he did, the same goes for Jericho last year where nobody wanted to boo his heel act and he just got a lot of indifference and people not sure how to react. The crowd wants to cheer and chant for the guy regardless of alignment, so being a heel (again), would just cause people not to care.
But is he a good face? Well a lot of the things he does are more suited for a heel, so no. But the crowd loves it, so what can you do.
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The Ichi
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 20, 2013 21:32:24 GMT -5
Because it's easier to get blood out of a stone than to get heel reactions out of Punk? Maybe that's the point. They make money out of a face that gets booed, why not a heel that gets cheered? Cena doesn't need to turn because of negative reactions so Punk shouldn't for positive ones. But Cena doesn't get all boos, it's more 50/50 (infact, most arenas are likely more pro-Cena but it's hard to hear kids over adults).
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Post by Boo! on Nov 20, 2013 21:33:07 GMT -5
Keep him face until he's close to retirement. He won't retire for years
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 20, 2013 21:35:56 GMT -5
I like him as a face. His last heel run I felt was way too forced. They were trying so hard to make him an evil scumbag, but the fans just didn't care. AKA, the Anti-Cena.
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Post by BigWill on Nov 20, 2013 21:39:44 GMT -5
Because it's easier to get blood out of a stone than to get heel reactions out of Punk? Maybe that's the point. They make money out of a face that gets booed, why not a heel that gets cheered? Cena doesn't need to turn because of negative reactions so Punk shouldn't for positive ones. Your logic about Cena is flawed as it is, and that doesn't change when you try and reverse it for Punk.
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Post by Sparkybob on Nov 20, 2013 21:42:20 GMT -5
I like him as a face. His last heel run I felt was way too forced. They were trying so hard to make him an evil scumbag, but the fans just didn't care. AKA, the Anti-Cena. What does Darren Young haven anything to do with this?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 21, 2013 5:05:16 GMT -5
He was the best heel the company has had since JBL in terms of being able to sell himself as a heel you hated on the stick that didn't (unlike HHH) bore the pants off everyone. So why was he turned face? He's lost 70% of his edge now, I think. Someone like Punk should be a cocky, arrogant, opinionated asshole. Not someone who comes out wishing to address the 'WWE universe' or anything facey like that. If anyone is meant to be a heel it's Punk. As heel he's awesome as face he's just a blander version of himself as heel. Because he gets cheered regardless. The percentage of smarks in the audience is higher than ever and so people just won't boo Punk, because people cheer the people they like instead of booing the heels they enjoy these days. And honestly, if you aren't getting heat, you aren't the best heel in the company.
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Post by The Beast Disincarnate on Nov 21, 2013 5:22:06 GMT -5
I hate Punk when he's face, and I like him when he's heel. Strange isn't it?
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