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Post by SOR on Nov 22, 2013 12:35:22 GMT -5
I'm known as a guy who isn't into Daniels that much on this board but that promo was really really good.
The Joseph Park story line has to end. It will be 2 years in March that this story line has been going on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 12:38:52 GMT -5
People waiting for the Joseph Park thing are wasting their time waiting. It's not a story anymore, it's his character.
I love Bad Influence. They're awesome. But man, I want Park to kill them both dead after last night.
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Post by SOR on Nov 22, 2013 12:42:17 GMT -5
People waiting for the Joseph Park thing are wasting their time waiting. It's not a story anymore, it's his character. I love Bad Influence. They're awesome. But man, I want Park to kill them both dead after last night. If it were his full time gimmick then Abyss wouldn't be mentioned every time he appears on air. Obviously there is a pay off.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 14:18:09 GMT -5
Yeah, that payoff will be Abyss showing up and smashing people to death. Same as it's been the last three times.
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Post by chazraps on Nov 22, 2013 14:22:01 GMT -5
...unless we get a third face of Park.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 22, 2013 14:39:31 GMT -5
I just realized. James Mitchell is Park's dad.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Nov 22, 2013 14:42:54 GMT -5
I just realized. James Mitchell is Park's dad. Are we still supposed to remember that?
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Post by Error on Nov 22, 2013 14:56:24 GMT -5
I'm figuring this will be the tipping point to the reveal. Like sometime in the next few weeks (probably the Genesis show) he'll do a promo with BI and they'll turn their backs on him, he'll pull out the Abyss mask, slip it on and destroy them. Then he'll talk about how he was tired of being the monster and wanted a normal life but BI just couldn't let it be or some crap like that giving us a Mick Foley/Cactus Jack situation where he is Joey Park unless you push him too far and force Abyss to come out.
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Post by sunnytaker on Nov 22, 2013 15:06:07 GMT -5
I'm figuring this will be the tipping point to the reveal. Like sometime in the next few weeks (probably the Genesis show) he'll do a promo with BI and they'll turn their backs on him, he'll pull out the Abyss mask, slip it on and destroy them. Then he'll talk about how he was tired of being the monster and wanted a normal life but BI just couldn't let it be or some crap like that giving us a Mick Foley/Cactus Jack situation where he is Joey Park unless you push him too far and force Abyss to come out. was thinking something similiar. in my case Park "leaves", Abyss comes back for a bit. BI finally gets an advanatge and pulls off the mask to reveal Park. Shocked that they actually guessed something correctly (see Claire Lynch/AJ- or better yet just take my word for it) BI gives Abyss/Park time to recover and he smushes dem gud. next week Park comes out and explains it was a mental block he had to keep the monster out but BI broke it so he has to come to terms with and accept this dark side of him and let everything out in the ring from here on out.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 22, 2013 15:33:28 GMT -5
This really did feel like a bullying situation and normally I would feel for the bullied. But where TNA went wrong is making the bullied be a character who has overstayed his welcome in Joseph Park and the bullies be two guys who are more entertaining by a mile that you can't 100% feel sorry for the guy being bullied.
It's like Shelly from Friday The 13th Part III, Joey from Friday The 13th Part V, and Allen from Return To Sleepaway Camp, all of these guys were bullied (and heavy as well) and yet they are so terribly written and annoying that you don't give a crap about them.
When Joseph Park gets bullied by guys like Robbie E and Devon, you can side with Joseph Park. But when guys like Bad Influence (who are way too good to be just bullies) do it, you can't side with Park.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Nov 22, 2013 15:38:34 GMT -5
I've become quite desensitised to what heel's will do for heat in pro wrestling and I don't mind because as long as it doesn't hurt anyone in real life I don't really have any problems with anything heel's do to get heat (didn't have a problem with Punk/Heyman doing the heart attack angle for example because I assumed Lawler would be okay with it). But damn did that promo make me feel uncomfortable.
Like Daniels was just mercilessly destroying the guy and it made it difficult to watch - in a good way, it's a long time since a promo in wrestling has made me feel those kind of emotions. I praise Bad Influence - and Daniels in particular - on a regular basis but this was amazing even by their very high standards.
Excellent work by all involved and despite the fact that I hate the Joe Park and Abyss characters and the fact that I love Bad Influence I definitely want to see Park/Abyss annihilate Bad Influence somewhere down the line. Fantastic stuff.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 22, 2013 15:42:24 GMT -5
Geese Daniels sounds a lot better than Christopher Daniels I'll give you that.
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Post by saintpat on Nov 22, 2013 15:47:39 GMT -5
I am really hoping this is how they write out Park You hope they've wasted about 18 months on a story line for it to end with absolutely no pay off? Let's not drag Aces & Eights into this.
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Post by comahan on Nov 22, 2013 19:26:05 GMT -5
Over the course of a few hours, i saw that promo, and Daniels' speech when he left ROH in 07 (rewatching old ROH dvds). Dude can cut a mean spirited asshole-ish promo with the absolute best of them.
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Post by mystikz on Nov 22, 2013 19:42:57 GMT -5
I enjoyed it.
Because I find the Park character awful and a waste. Just like the Abyss character was stale and boring.
This Park storyline sucks so much. Just as pretty much everything with Abyss has.
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Post by saintpat on Nov 22, 2013 19:43:53 GMT -5
Look at the audience behind Parks no-selling his Abyss call-out in the closeups.
Look at the blonde over his right shoulder -- never looks up at him when he's talking.
When Daniels starts tearing him a new one, she's smiling the whole time.
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Post by Krazee on Nov 22, 2013 19:50:12 GMT -5
this will lead to the "rebirth" of Abyss, even though he came back a few months ago
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Post by ICBM on Nov 22, 2013 22:05:29 GMT -5
I don't really care for Danials but he was money here. There have been far worse bullies in wrestling that were baby faces or heels that fans liked anyway. The Rock is the biggest example I can give. I think the bullying thing is a hot button right now and so I get why you could jump to that and see it here. But as has been pointed out, that is not Danials fault. TN booked a baby face to get bad sympathy as a meek character to rally behind. But the contrast here is bad and unhinges the work getting park over or at least getting him sympathy. That is bad booking IMO toward Park not Danials and not Park's fault. He got his guy over and got sympathy. That was his job. But they never allowed for him to change. That could be what they are doing here. If not it wants the impact of a money promo by Danials. We shall have to wait and see how it plays out to know if that was right.
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Post by kidglov3s on Nov 22, 2013 22:13:59 GMT -5
It's like Shelly from Friday The 13th Part III, Joey from Friday The 13th Part V, and Allen from Return To Sleepaway Camp, all of these guys were bullied (and heavy as well) and yet they are so terribly written and annoying that you don't give a crap about them. Five stars!
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Nov 22, 2013 23:25:25 GMT -5
It would have been much more effective if Park was a sympathetic character. He just comes across as a moron half the time that is completely clueless.
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