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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2013 3:13:48 GMT -5
So yeah there's a PPV today if you forgot. I have seen into the future and there's a 100% guarantee it's going to be comparable to the last few, i.e forgettable.
What happened?
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wakko
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Post by wakko on Nov 24, 2013 4:54:43 GMT -5
Complacency IMO. WWE has no real competition and so they don't have to try as hard. Do they still try? Sure, but they don't put as much into it as they would if WCW were still around. Competition gives you that extra drive to pull out the stops. And WWE is on cruise control.
That's my thoughts anyway.
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Nov 24, 2013 5:58:28 GMT -5
Vince: "TV money is sexier dammit!!!"
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Post by 543Y2J on Nov 24, 2013 6:14:40 GMT -5
Meh quality drops at this time of year anyway. Extreme Rules is normally good as the writers/bookers/agents are still on a high from Mania, they know MITB is a major event now so they continue that mindset through still with momentum from Mania. Leading to Summerslam, which get's everyone hyped up, while the major storyline of the year starts/continues. Everyone (myself included) thinks it will carry on through autumn only for the quality to really really drop again (effecting NOC, 1st Oct PPV and HIAC) until the hype for Mania starts at Rumble (or arguably sometimes in the TLC buiild) and the writing team/Vince starts to really care about the decisions they make again. It happens every year
It also doesn't help this year that the amazing lead writer/head of creative team left after Summerslam.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Nov 24, 2013 6:19:52 GMT -5
Remember when there wasn't a PPV every 3 weeks?
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Post by jimmyjames on Nov 24, 2013 7:27:54 GMT -5
I haven't seen a PPV since about 2000, so I'm probably not the best source, but from reading comments, reviews, and match by match description, it seems as if most, are just commercial-less RAWs. They're predictable, seem kind of thrown together, and there's no real conclusion or major change that wasn't unforeseen or won't be continued on Raw. Plus, I think the 3hr Raw has taken something from the PPVs that made them special and different.
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Post by Boo! on Nov 24, 2013 7:29:19 GMT -5
Survivor Series has been wank for years. Rumble has...the Rumble, Wrestlemania is Wrestlemania and Summerslam has had some really top matches over the last few years. Survivor Series, aside from that Rock one, has been a 'B' show for many years. To be honest it was always my least favourite of the traditional four. Just a cluster**** of tag matches.
How Vince used to rundown the card too was annoying.
"Hulk Hogan and the Earthquake captain their respective teams of the Big Boss Man, Dino Bravo, Jim Dugan, Haku, Typhoon and the Barbarian - it's the Hulkamaniacs vs the Natural disasters"
...without knowledge of kayfabe - who's on whose team?
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Post by BV on Nov 24, 2013 10:04:27 GMT -5
I thought the past few Survivor Series have been pretty good. I have no interest in this one sadly. Usually the PPVs heat up around this time, actually.
In between Summerslam and Survivor Series they've completely managed to kill my interest in the product.
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Post by BRV on Nov 24, 2013 10:09:52 GMT -5
I just hate that there are now 13 pay-per-views annually, but the WWE only puts effort into five, maybe six of them.
Royal Rumble - The kickstart to the road to WrestleMania Elimination Chamber - The last stop on the road to WrestleMania WrestleMania - The biggest event of the year Extreme Rules - The fallout from WrestleMania Money in the Bank - The crowning of two new title contenders, also serves as the genesis of feuds that will culminate at SummerSlam SummerSlam - The so-called Biggest Party of the Summer, and arguably the 2nd or 3rd biggest event of the year, depending on how you feel about the Royal Rumble
Every other PPV is totally interchangeable, completely expendable, and at worst, utterly irrelevant.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2013 10:10:27 GMT -5
Immediate rematches later on in the week ON FREE TV makes me feel like I'm just wasting my time and money on them.
(Sign #27 of why WCW went belly-up.)
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Post by wisdomwizard on Nov 24, 2013 10:21:12 GMT -5
We really have to have a complaint thread about Survivor Series when it hasn't aired yet tonight? I think it has the potential to be really good actually, regardless if Big Show vs. Orton ends in a DQ.
With the PPVs in general I think they got screwed up by having to do HIAC and Battleground too close to each other. TLC was great last year, I think it might be again depending how it goes.
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Post by willywonka666 on Nov 24, 2013 10:28:36 GMT -5
too many and as it was stated earlier-complacency-just like everything else in the world. But it must make tons of money so they'll keep it this way til it doesn't work-but that's like waiting for black friday to fail
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Post by TGM on Nov 24, 2013 10:36:44 GMT -5
I'm more interested in the fall out RAWs than the ppvs.
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 24, 2013 12:17:38 GMT -5
This has to be the least I've cared about a PPV in quite some time.
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Post by RedSmile on Nov 24, 2013 12:20:31 GMT -5
The whole PPV model that the WWE uses is old and dated anyways. There is a reason the Superbowl isn't on PPV.
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Post by xCompackx on Nov 24, 2013 13:35:00 GMT -5
I dunno, I still at least mildly look forward to them. Even the bad PPVs tend to have at least one awesome match and something interesting could happen.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Nov 24, 2013 13:36:20 GMT -5
Remember when the go-home show before a PPV had a graphics rundown of the matches coming up at the event? Those were great and got me real excited for PPVs.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Nov 24, 2013 13:41:43 GMT -5
The PPV schedule for next year actually looks better than this year. If I remember right, June or July have the double PPVs but they'll at least have three weeks in between unlike HIAC after Battleground. The creative team should have a lot more breathing room next year and that should reflect in the story and booking.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 24, 2013 14:10:40 GMT -5
Aside from the actual lack luster card, it seems like they gave away everything that could've made this PPV special on RAW already; an IC title win, A Miz heel turn and a Rey return.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 24, 2013 14:12:45 GMT -5
I haven't looked forward to a PPV since the turn of the century
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