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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Nov 25, 2013 0:04:38 GMT -5
Yeah Cena vs Orton, this is such a STALE match up considering it hasn't happened in 4 years I mean let's be real, Cena vs Orton is probably less stale than most of the guys on the roster since Orton's feuded with them a lot more recently than Cena I don't care that they haven't done it in 4 years. It still is the most tired combination in the company, which goes to show how badly they whored out that match. They still ran the match to absolute death in 2009 to the point where even years later it still feels like they shouldn't be facing each other. |
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 25, 2013 0:10:58 GMT -5
Yeah Cena vs Orton, this is such a STALE match up considering it hasn't happened in 4 years I mean let's be real, Cena vs Orton is probably less stale than most of the guys on the roster since Orton's feuded with them a lot more recently than Cena If Wrestling is a story, this is a story that's been told already. Multiple times. It's even the same exact face/heel dynamics. But most importantly, it's not a match the majority of the crowds seem interested in. Every time they've re-teased it you could hear a mouse pissing on cotton. |
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Post by Lancers on Nov 25, 2013 0:14:05 GMT -5
This feud is about as fresh as an elderly woman's vagina.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Nov 25, 2013 0:23:18 GMT -5
This feud is about as fresh as an elderly woman's vagina. At least there's a curious fascination with seeing that. It's like, "Oh...so that's what an older pair of beef curtains looks like." Orton and Cena are like a TNA pay per view. No one wants to see it (here at least). |
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Post by Lancers on Nov 25, 2013 0:25:32 GMT -5
This feud is about as fresh as an elderly woman's vagina. At least there's a curious fascination with seeing that. It's like, "Oh...so that's what an older pair of beef curtains looks like." Orton and Cena are like a TNA pay per view. No one wants to see it (here at least). Well if the WWE doesn't want to bring back Payback for next year's PPV schedule, WWE Beef Curtains would make a sensible replacement. |
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Post by Welfare Willis on Nov 25, 2013 0:28:15 GMT -5
At least there's a curious fascination with seeing that. It's like, "Oh...so that's what an older pair of beef curtains looks like." Orton and Cena are like a TNA pay per view. No one wants to see it (here at least). Well if the WWE doesn't want to bring back Payback for next year's PPV schedule, WWE Beef Curtains would make a sensible replacement. You know... Vince really needs to give us the book. It'd be a new golden age of wrestling.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 0:29:17 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, who DO you want to see Orton feud with? Reaction to Big Show was: oh God please no, please no, anything but that (and it seems at least that they blew it off in one PPV -- although that remains to be seen) Reaction to the idea of continuing with Bryan was: oh God please no, please no, anything but that I presume the Authority will get back to Bryan heading into WM, though it might be HHH rather than Orton. But Orton has to have a program with somebody, and I'd rather it not be Punk, so ... I think the thing here goes along with the NEWZ of WWE concentrating on trying to shore up and bolster the Raw and SD ratings heading into new contract negotiations that could go into the billions (based on the NASCAR TV contract, with NASCAR getting lower ratings than WWE). So these are who WWE considers its two biggest stars, the guys who have the belts, so on that level I can see why. I'm more interested to see where they go nexft with Show and ADR (the latter, even though I like him more than the IWC and thought he got plenty of crowd reaction tonight, as he did the live event where I saw him recently, in more of a car-crash TV kind of way). I think Orton is the problem here. I don't want to see him feud with anyone. The last good feud he had was with Mark Henry, and that was mostly for the novelty of a heel actually kicking some ass. Speaking of, from the news, Orton/Henry looks like the next WWE title feud. As far as concentrating on TV ratings, I don't really see that working, haven't seen Smackdown's ratings lately but Raw's are stagnant. It's not like putting on crappy PPVs is making the TV ratings go up. We shall see if Orton/Cena moves the needle a bit. It makes sense on paper, but the story needs to be intriguing and they are struggling in that regard. Just "c'mon it's Cena/Orton!" isn't going to cut it I don't think. |
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Post by BV on Nov 25, 2013 0:33:24 GMT -5
I wouldn't have minded a quick 1 or 2 month Cena/Orton feud when both were faces, especially when Orton was red hot in 2011. I have no desire whatsoever to see this now though.
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Post by Racksman on Nov 25, 2013 0:40:16 GMT -5
Orton/Cena, 1 on 1, WrestleMania XXX, first time ever, title unification, all their history?
I'd much rather see that (and I'd enjoy it) then anything with f***ing Sheamus.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Nov 25, 2013 0:49:40 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, who DO you want to see Orton feud with? Reaction to Big Show was: oh God please no, please no, anything but that (and it seems at least that they blew it off in one PPV -- although that remains to be seen) Reaction to the idea of continuing with Bryan was: oh God please no, please no, anything but that I presume the Authority will get back to Bryan heading into WM, though it might be HHH rather than Orton. But Orton has to have a program with somebody, and I'd rather it not be Punk, so ... I think the thing here goes along with the NEWZ of WWE concentrating on trying to shore up and bolster the Raw and SD ratings heading into new contract negotiations that could go into the billions (based on the NASCAR TV contract, with NASCAR getting lower ratings than WWE). So these are who WWE considers its two biggest stars, the guys who have the belts, so on that level I can see why. I'm more interested to see where they go nexft with Show and ADR (the latter, even though I like him more than the IWC and thought he got plenty of crowd reaction tonight, as he did the live event where I saw him recently, in more of a car-crash TV kind of way). Speaking of, from the news, Orton/Henry looks like the next WWE title feud. As far as concentrating on TV ratings, I don't really see that working, haven't seen Smackdown's ratings lately but Raw's are stagnant. It's not like putting on crappy PPVs is making the TV ratings go up. We shall see if Orton/Cena moves the needle a bit. It makes sense on paper, but the story needs to be intriguing and they are struggling in that regard. Just "c'mon it's Cena/Orton!" isn't going to cut it I don't think. Pretty much everything I was gonna say. The problem isn't who he's feuding with, it's that he's in the picture in the first place. As for the ratings, I kinda get that, but no. Randy Orton does nothing positive for ratings, so having him in the equation isn't exactly the best go-to plan to pop ratings prior to a contract renewal. Bryan was new and exciting; more importantly, it was something people hadn't seen before and would tune in to see, and they pissed it away. With Cena coming off injury as soon as he did, there's no reason they couldn't, for rating's sake, keep the title on Bryan and milk a rematch tease for all it was worth between the legit face of the WWE and one of their hottest rising stars in a while. |
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Post by Crimson on Nov 25, 2013 0:53:32 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure this is just a redherring. They're teasing for this: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}  |
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Post by Professor Chaos on Nov 25, 2013 1:20:15 GMT -5
Cena/Orton have never main evented WrestleMania one on one so it's fresh in that sense.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 1:30:56 GMT -5
Cena/Orton have never main evented WrestleMania one on one so it's fresh in that sense. Nor have Kofi and Ziggler. Totally fresh. |
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 25, 2013 1:32:30 GMT -5
Cena/Orton have never main evented WrestleMania one on one so it's fresh in that sense. Nor have Kofi and Ziggler. Totally fresh. Same with Sheamus/Del Rio. Hell, while we're at it, rehire David Hart-Smith and Shad so we can put The Hart Dynasty v Cryme Tyme on there too!  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 1:43:04 GMT -5
It's time for a big shake up at the top of the card, not Cena/Orton again. I will laugh forever if Cena takes down the Authority though.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 25, 2013 3:06:30 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, who DO you want to see Orton feud with? It never should've been Orton to begin with. Bryan should've held on to the title longer. My logic booking timeline says Bryan, after winning the Orton feud, has to face Kane, since they brought him back heel. If they wanted Orton/Show so bad, then do it as a means to get Orton's heat back and put it in the undercard. |
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Post by Chip on Nov 25, 2013 3:59:41 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, who DO you want to see Orton feud with? Goldust, Cesaro and Fandango. Goldust and Fandango because I think Orton being the straight man to Goldust and Fandango's pervy weirdness would make for great TV and I just think Cesaro and Orton could put on some amazing matches together. This is off topic but goddamn I want Fandango and Goldust to interact or feud. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 4:30:11 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, who DO you want to see Orton feud with? Some possibilities offhand... 1. No one and just floating aimlessly like he has the past couple of years. 2. Some midcard face who's not cemented yet, like Big E Langston. 3. Roman Reigns / the Shield. 4. Cody Rhodes. 5. Rey Mysterio. 6. The guy at the unemployment office. 7. A split personality of himself differentiated by way of using Burn in My Light and wearing tights and a fake mustache. 8. Lillian Garcia. 9. DJ Gabriel. 10. Mark Henry. Any of those would work. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 5:21:58 GMT -5
The only positives I can get out of this are;
1. The world titles will finally be unified
2. It looks like we'll see this match at TLC instead of Wrestlemania, so at least they're keeping it to a 'B' PPV
3. Cena and Orton have never had a TLC/Ladder match together, so maybe they can come up with something creative
4. Del Rio is guaranteed to not be in the world title scene!
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Post by audiencewatching on Nov 25, 2013 5:52:30 GMT -5
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