The WWE the last month or so has sucked

[Chuckie Finster]

Anyone who says it doesn't suck is okay with lessened expectations.

WWE had some good stuff going up until Summerslam, but the Authority, shitty PPV endings and nonsensical storylines has killed the momentum, even if certain characters remain over.

But as long as WWE makes money selling their merch to kids, diversifying their revenue streams, making millions in rights fees and is concentrated on starting their network by February, then the TV product isn't a concern.

[celticjobber]

Bad storylines are the main culprit.

For the last 2-3 months or so, WWE has been going on a downward spiral where right now they're pretty much the worst I can remember since the hell that was much of 1995. And I've been watching just about every week since the summer of 1991 (back when it was just the syndicated weekend shows and Primetime on Mondays).

If it wasn't for the 5 or 6 wrestlers/divas that I enjoy watching even when I'm not into their current storylines, I would be tempted to give up and just watch old stuff on Youtube and DVDs.

[kevin]

You really need to add an it hasnt option.

[spagett]

Nov 28, 2013 1:22:32 GMT -5 celticjobber said:

Bad storylines are the main culprit.

For the last 2-3 months or so, WWE has been going on a downward spiral where right now they're pretty much the worst I can remember since the hell that was much of 1995. And I've been watching just about every week since the summer of 1991 (back when it was just the syndicated weekend shows and Primetime on Mondays).

If it wasn't for the 5 or 6 wrestlers/divas that I enjoy watching even when I'm not into their current storylines, I would be tempted to give up and just watch old stuff on Youtube and DVDs.

I haven't been watching but can the last few months really be as bad as the Guest Host Year of Hell in 2009?

The endless Orton/Cena feud
Awful Guest Hosts
DX 2009
Hornswoggle vs Chavo.

Surely it's better than that?!

[Bo Rida]

There's been some great stuff with the extended tag division.

But mostly the issue has been too many segments I'm not interested in which I suppose is closest to the bad storyline option, if you skip Orton, the authority in general, Del Rio, Axel, Miz (Wtf was his segment on Raw?), total divas, app voting, recaps, content-free 20 minute monologues, advertising etc there's not much left.

Then there's stuff like Korporate Kane going nowhere (yet) and the weak screwjob finishes making things even worse.

[celticjobber]

Nov 28, 2013 5:19:59 GMT -5 spagett said:

Nov 28, 2013 1:22:32 GMT -5 celticjobber said:

Bad storylines are the main culprit.

For the last 2-3 months or so, WWE has been going on a downward spiral where right now they're pretty much the worst I can remember since the hell that was much of 1995. And I've been watching just about every week since the summer of 1991 (back when it was just the syndicated weekend shows and Primetime on Mondays).

If it wasn't for the 5 or 6 wrestlers/divas that I enjoy watching even when I'm not into their current storylines, I would be tempted to give up and just watch old stuff on Youtube and DVDs.

I haven't been watching but can the last few months really be as bad as the Guest Host Year of Hell in 2009?

The endless Orton/Cena feud
Awful Guest Hosts
DX 2009
Hornswoggle vs Chavo.

Surely it's better than that?!

To be honest, from around June of 2007 until Punk's Pipebomb promo in 2011, I wasn't nearly as emotionally invested in the product as I had been prior to that point (the Benoit murders kind of took me out of it for awhile, and the "Pipebomb" promo pulled me back in).

So while WWE 2009 might have been pretty bad, I didn't actively hate it like I do now. If only because I wasn't enjoying it that much in 2007 or 2008 either...

For the last couple of years, WWE had been on kind of a roll where almost every PPV was really good-great, and I always enjoyed much of RAW every week.

But in the last two-three months, everything has gone off the deep end especially (mainly?) with the Authority storyline. And the lack of an overall sense of direction for most of the midcard.

Granted, there have been some great matches in between all of the garbage, probably more than in 2009.

But the storylines have fallen flat, the announcing is terrible, and they've gone in a direction that has annoyed me (Big Show as a main eventer in 2013, Cena/Orton again? DB being kidnapped by the Wyatts, Total Divas cast being pushed as faces, etc).

At the end of the day, I'm just as much or maybe even a bit more of a WWE fan for good storylines than the in-ring product.

[Rave]

Couldn't vote for just one, so I voted Other because it's both bad storylines and commentary for me.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

We get three white guys dancing it's fine, we get one black guy dancing it's racist.

[The Beast Disincarnate]

all of the above minus the nonsensical "racist storylines" option

[Hurbster]

No option to disagree with the OP ? Because I do.

[repomark]

I don't think it has totally sucked, and I think one of the main reasons for some people being so down on the current product is simply because the carrot of a lengthy Daniel Bryan title run was dangled and it has yet to happen.

I also think that it is very possible that they have rushed into/brought forward the title unification match simply because they themselves are acutely aware that the PPV main events they have presented of late have not been as engaging as they were earlier in the year. Maybe I am wrong, but it seems that way.

I am personally quite interested in the unification match, and am glad it is happening before mania. I still think Bryan v Triple H will happen at mania 30 and that angle will have its pay off.

Big Show was just a stop gap, and I am not panicking just yet that WWE has dropped the ball or "jumped the shark", as to my mind everything is still perfectly salvageable between now and mania. This is usually when, as JR would put it, business picks up.

[mrjl]

Nov 27, 2013 23:55:26 GMT -5 wwefan71080 said:

I think that the WWE sucks at the moment and has jumped the shark and I would say its because the storylines suck and make no sense even though one could also argue that what is happening to the black wrestlers is racist{see Xavier Woods the dancing fool} its like they're trying to alienate their audience

dancing does not equal fool. Fun does not equal fool

[mrjl]

Nov 28, 2013 5:29:24 GMT -5 Bo Rida said:

There's been some great stuff with the extended tag division.

But mostly the issue has been too many segments I'm not interested in which I suppose is closest to the bad storyline option, if you skip Orton, the authority in general, Del Rio, Axel, Miz (Wtf was his segment on Raw?), total divas, app voting, recaps, content-free 20 minute monologues, advertising etc there's not much left.

Then there's stuff like Korporate Kane going nowhere (yet) and the weak screwjob finishes making things even worse.

you not being interested in something does not mean it's bad. Do you think every restaurant that serves a type of food you don't like sucks?

[Yami Daimao]

Nov 28, 2013 0:32:30 GMT -5 Magic knows Black Lives Matter said:

Nov 28, 2013 0:05:11 GMT -5 slappy said:

It hasn't.

Hmm...opposing viewpoints.

Only one way to settle this.

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[8.2.11/SAVIOR_NEZ]

This is the first time I've stopped watching WWE where I don't really miss it at all. There have been other times I've taken a break, but I still want to see good wrestling. That's not the case this time. I can't remember the exact date I tuned out, but I remember it was during a backstage promo with The Shield, Stephanie and Triple H. They did one of those stupid "cut to the bored crowd during a promo" shots, and it ended with Stephanie and Triple H making out. After a long time being bored of WWE, I figured my time was better spent elsewhere.

I picked all of the above (though I'm not quite sure about the racist thing) because all of those have been hindrances to me enjoying the product. I see lots of threads on here about how great the in-ring product is. I can't really argue with that, but what's the point of a well-worked match if you really don't care about any of the participants? The WWE style of match has worn thin on me, but I can usually get into a WWE match if I'm emotionally invested in it. Combine that with the fact that several of these matches happen over and over again, why would I be excited to see something I just watched not too long ago. I've read results in my absence from watching, and there has been nothing interesting that has happened in the WWE to prompt me to turn on RAW, much less order a ppv.

Bad storylines is probably a major point, but poor character development is even more a problem. Everyone would probably pick on John Cena or Randy Orton for this, but I think even "internet favorites" like The Shield, Daniel Bryan, and CM Punk have had little character development in the last year or so. I want to like these guys. They are immensely talented and have all the potential in the world. But there really isn't anything about them that would draw me in to watch them every week. The stagnant character development has made me feel like I'm watching reruns.

Some other ones that are fairly minor, the over-production of the shows is aggrivating. The glossy, slick presentation is a slight annoyance, particularly the aforementioned "cut to the crowd during backstage promos" move they do a lot. The fact that the company is in "safe mode" and never takes a chance on a new star, edgier storyline, or finishing an angle satisfactorily are all tips of the iceberg, but all this stuff combined makes for a lousy product.

[MichaelMartini]

It started to suck right after Summerslam. Battleground is where it really started to turn to shit. It's so bad now, I'm embarrassed for the people saying "it hasn't". I have no idea how anyone could possibly enjoy the current product, unless your using it for MST3K type commentary.

[Deleted]

As always, there is good stuff and bad stuff about WWE programming. Admittedly the last couple of months there's probably been more bad but this past summer was pretty good I think. And hopefully things will pick up with the Road to WrestleMania beginning soon.

[Wolfman Rose]

Nov 28, 2013 12:08:19 GMT -5 MichaelMartini said:

It started to suck right after Summerslam. Battleground is where it really started to turn to shit. It's so bad now, I'm embarrassed for the people saying "it hasn't". I have no idea how anyone could possibly enjoy the current product, unless your using it for MST3K type commentary.

Oh I don't know, different tastes?

[Dean-o]

It hasn't.

You wanna watch bad WWE (in the modern era?) Go check out 2009.

[Loser troll. Please ban me]

Just the last month? Try the last few years.