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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 0:08:14 GMT -5
I miss PPV's named after a wrestler's gimmick or finisher like Degeneration-X: In Your House, or Rock Bottom. Plus the sets were awesome. I miss when wrestlers had a gimmick strong enough that they could field a PPV name after them, heh. Could you see that today with Cena? or Orton? Hell even Bryan or Punk? Just not the same, but meh what can you do. This December, tune in for "Papers (If I Have To)", only $74.95!
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Post by I've got some bad news... on Nov 29, 2013 0:17:44 GMT -5
I miss when wrestlers had a gimmick strong enough that they could field a PPV name after them, heh. Could you see that today with Cena? or Orton? Hell even Bryan or Punk? Just not the same, but meh what can you do. This December, tune in for "Papers (If I Have To)", only $74.95! $84.95 in HD.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 0:22:38 GMT -5
Actually, while we're on the subject, I want Elimination Chamber moved. I do think it functions more naturally, unlike Hell in a Cell, as a, "This is the time of year this match happens," sort of thing, but having five to ten people get a title shot a month before Mania would make the Rumble completely pointless if the way it's been used since 2008 didn't already.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 29, 2013 0:25:48 GMT -5
Breaking Point. It had a cool name and an all submission match PPV is awesome. It also had I Quit matches, right? I think there is plenty of steam for such a PPV, if they can come up with enough ways of doing it that are not just typical submission matches. Plenty of wrestlers on the roster with viable submission holds, too, so they don't have to half-ass it and have someone win with an abdominal stretch or something.
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Post by Tony Schiavontay on Nov 29, 2013 0:25:58 GMT -5
Every single year, you can hear the cries from Extreme Rules shouting out "I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE BACKLASH?!"
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 29, 2013 0:26:59 GMT -5
Actually, while we're on the subject, I want Elimination Chamber moved. I do think it functions more naturally, unlike Hell in a Cell, as a, "This is the time of year this match happens," sort of thing, but having five to ten people get a title shot a month before Mania would make the Rumble completely pointless if the way it's been used since 2008 didn't already. I agree. It would be better to do it later in the year. Would also add some steam to an otherwise lull part of the year for PPVs.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Nov 29, 2013 0:38:44 GMT -5
January: Royal Rumble February: No Way Out March: Wrestlemania April: Backlash May: Night of Champions June: King of the Ring July: Fully Loaded August: SummerSlam September: Unforgiven October: No Mercy November: Survivor Series December: Armageddon
I also agree on War Games kind of sucking. Then again, the only one I've seen is the one from the Rise & Fall of WCW dvd.
You can make Backlash as extreme rules matches. I just hate the obvious ppv names. Elimination Chamber! Hell in a Cell! TLC!
And I wouldn't mind another scramble ppv. Also, how has there only been one "Armageddon" 6-man Cell match? They constantly put it in the video games. And why hasn't there been a 6-man Chamber match either, despite being in the games? I know they did a cell match, but it was a dark match. Doesn't count.
And finally...yeah...put MitB back at 'Mania.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 0:39:05 GMT -5
Halloween Havoc, Survivor Series.
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Post by Error on Nov 29, 2013 0:41:37 GMT -5
Here is the schedule I'd go with:
January - Royal Rumble February - No Way Out (Still has the Chamber match since I love the idea of 6 men willing to put themselves through that hell just to face the Rumble winner in the Main Event of WrestleMania) Late March/Early April - Wrestlemania May - Mayhem (Extreme Rules with a new name. Thought about using Uncensored or Hardcore Heaven too) June - NIght of Champions feat. Scramble Matches. (Give the June slot a proven draw and refresh the Night of Champions gimmick. Also can kickstart new feuds in the post Mania time) July - Money in the Bank August - Summerslam September. - Fall Brawl (Reuse the classic WCW name. No gimmick) October - Breaking Point (Submission matches) November - Survivor Series December - Armageddon (still has the TLC gimmick).
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Post by JCBaggee on Nov 29, 2013 0:45:49 GMT -5
Yeah, King of the Ring. It should be to Summerslam what the Rumble is to 'Mania. Also agree that MitB needs to go back to the WrestleMania curtain jerk--it worked nice there and got the crowd pumped.
Also, am I alone in thinking the TLC PPV should go away? I get the point, but it should just be a general Hardcore Rules themed PPV. The TLC match is so overused at this stage that it's lost it's luster.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 29, 2013 1:05:54 GMT -5
King of the Ring, Cyber Sunday, Halloween Havoc and Starrcade.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 1:10:15 GMT -5
Yeah, King of the Ring. It should be to Summerslam what the Rumble is to 'Mania. Also agree that MitB needs to go back to the WrestleMania curtain jerk--it worked nice there and got the crowd pumped. Also, am I alone in thinking the TLC PPV should go away? I get the point, but it should just be a general Hardcore Rules themed PPV. The TLC match is so overused at this stage that it's lost it's luster. I think TLC would work as a PPV if they did it like they did in 2010, where almost every match had one of the gimmicks being used. Mix it up, like throw in a ladder on a pole match or something, a ladder match with pins, maybe some sort of alternative use for tables, whatever, and you could probably make a pretty awesome show out of it. Doubtful to happen, though. Even Extreme Rules is just having straight matches at this point, because evidently telling the referee not to count when people are outside the ring and to ignore rope breaks is too much effort to bother with when it comes to the midcard.
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Post by celticjobber on Nov 29, 2013 1:15:31 GMT -5
Replace Hell in A Cell with Halloween Havoc. It was one of the few WCW PPVs I usually looked forward too.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Nov 29, 2013 1:27:42 GMT -5
Most of mine come from WCW. I always loved their seasonal-themed PPVs.
May: King of the Ring. I still think this should be the "king maker" (pun intended) to get a wrestler from the lower-midcard to the upper. Hell, imagine how much different guys like Jack Swagger and Miz would have turned out if they had a run as KOTR rather than immediately getting hotshotted the title? It'd also set the stage for a huge push right as the summer begins.
June: Bash at the Beach. Traditionally a July PPV, that slot is better served with Money in the Bank at the moment. WWE could incorporate the best of WCW's spring and summer events in this one, including having a pool at ringside (ala Spring Breakout) that would inevitably lead to lots of comedy spots.
September: Fall Brawl. Yeah, bring back Fall Brawl and have War Games be a part of it. Granted, WWE would just call the damn thing "War Games" because that's their modus operandi now, but, dammit, I'm the one in charge right now!
October: Halloween Havoc. If they want a Hell in the Cell match, include a Hell in the Cell, but Halloween Havoc is such cool branding and they could really play up the supernatural and horror elements in both storylines and stage design.
September: Starrcade. Starrcade could serve as the "season finale" to all of the summer and fall storylines and allow WWE to hit the reset button for WrestleMania season as they usually do anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 1:33:36 GMT -5
Every single year, you can hear the cries from Extreme Rules shouting out "I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE BACKLASH?!" That comentary was amazing. "I'm not good enough to compentate BASHLASH? I WIPE MY ASS WITH BASHLASH YOU f***S!" He didn't actually say that of course, but it felt like it. =P Joey Styles had some hit or miss fun stuff. Wish he didn't disappear.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 29, 2013 1:37:47 GMT -5
I'd try to bring War Games back this year at Elimination Chamber. There's probably only going to be one belt, so for the second chamber match, have an elimination tag. There's no need to bring back the two ring set up, just use the chamber. Ever play EC tag matches in the games? Really fun and tons of booking possibilities. They could do Shield vs Wyatts.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 29, 2013 5:05:35 GMT -5
Can't believe anyone wants to get rid of Extreme Rules, which is typically the best show for match quality every year.
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Post by TGM on Nov 29, 2013 5:35:21 GMT -5
I want less ppvs, so we get a longer build, does that count?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 8:08:48 GMT -5
I want less ppvs, so we get a longer build, does that count? I'm with you. 9 PPVs would be plenty: 10 if you create some sort of "Best Of The Year" discounted show voted upon by the fans. Best matches, best promos, best segments. People will be too busy shopping for Christmas to want to pay $55 for a PPV. Knock it down to $15-20. However, if you want to bring importance back to the schedule. I'm all for a KOTR format similar to its later years. Qualifying matches the first couple of weeks, the quarterfinals on the go-home shows - that way there's only three total matches. If you want more, install a loser's bracket. Then the final match would be between the two bracket winners with a twist. The guy coming out of the winner's bracket needs to only win one fall. The other guy has to win twice, so odds are against him, but he can be built in such a way that - even if he loses - he wins respect and valor for getting this far. WarGames wasn't all bad, the first 20 minutes is the best part. Beat the crap out of somebody even past the threshold of giving up, but he can't. Problem is, there's no longer big huge stables with one manager or groups of people who get along - so in the end, you'd get a bunch of guys thrown together just for the sake of having the match. And it would suck.
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Post by Bad Moon on Nov 29, 2013 8:47:47 GMT -5
No more goddamn gimmick PPVs. Keep the Royal Rumble and MITB because they actually serve a purpose in setting up storylines, but having annually scheduled Hell in a Cell and elimination matches just ruins the mystique of those matches because there's no logical build-up to them. We have 4 different match series going on where everyone involved is trying to prove that they will never quit no matter how bad they're hurt? Gosh, that sure is convenient that we have an all-submission match event coming up this month.
Also, the Royal Rumble is too close to Wrestlemania. They should be on opposite ends of the calender from eachother. That's my little rant done.
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