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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 4, 2013 13:35:31 GMT -5
actually, I'm cool with Magnus as champ. that match though... where's that pic of Vince Russo with his sandals and smug grin when you need it?
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Post by JTG Fan on Dec 4, 2013 14:39:09 GMT -5
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Post by Mr. Butter Fingers on Dec 4, 2013 16:18:42 GMT -5
That was my point. It's predictable booking at its finest with Magnus becoming the corporate champ. You are insinuating that Magnus turned. Yall predicted he will turn and according to the spoilers he hasn't. The spoilers only mention Jeff Hardy getting screwed over by Dixie/Spud. No one predicted that turn of events on the forum sorry. Another set of spoilers that I read said that Magnus celebrated at the end with Dixie, Spud and ECIII, so I'm sure that he did actually turn heel.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 17:01:22 GMT -5
actually, I'm cool with Magnus as champ. that match though... where's that pic of Vince Russo with his sandals and smug grin when you need it?
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Post by The Masked Heel WAS WRONG on Dec 4, 2013 17:38:48 GMT -5
Rockstar Spud cost Jeff Hardy the match? That's like if at TLC John Cena loses because of interference by Yoshi Tatsu. *fast forward to TLC* *John Cena is about to grab both titles when someone comes in and pushes Cena off* Cole: What...What...What...WHO IS THAT?! IS THAT?!?! THAT'S YOSHI TATSU!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 17:55:21 GMT -5
As someone who always thought Magnus was a future champion somewhere, this is about as hollow a victory as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 18:01:30 GMT -5
As someone who always thought Magnus was a future champion somewhere, this is about as hollow a victory as possible. I don't think they were ever going to slow burn a Magnus title win (as a babyface). Maybe they should have, as Magnus was getting over in front of the live crowds, but I think they feel it's probably easier to let Magnus develop a personality as a heel and then turn him later (like I'm sure they will do with Roode eventually). I don't have an issue with it (the match sounds stupid though). It appeared they planned this a few months ago with the way Magnus lost in the BFG Series Finals and slowly started morphing into a more heelish character.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Dec 4, 2013 18:40:22 GMT -5
*Magnus defeated Jeff Hardy to win the TNA title in a Steel Cage "Dixieland" match. They started as a steel cage match. You needed to escape the cage and get to the TNA stage, then climb a ladder to get the belt. Hardy almost had the title in his hands but the ladder was pushed over by Rockstar Spud. Also, can we say clusterf***? It's official. Dixie Carter has become Vince Russo.
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Post by tenshi on Dec 4, 2013 20:03:12 GMT -5
Why couldn't the match be a ladder match or a cage match instead of being both at the same time?
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Dec 4, 2013 21:43:03 GMT -5
I just came over to say that I think the idea of the cage match/ladder match combo is kind of awesome. It's not really a crazy, complicated, over booked thing that people are making it out to be. It sounds like a relatively simple, fun off-shoot of two classic match styles.
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Post by Ape Boy on Dec 4, 2013 23:07:40 GMT -5
Wrestling fans declaring any and every unique match concept a "cluster****" or "overbooking" is one of my (few) pet peeves. It's such an anti-creativity, anti-innovation mindset, that it legitimately offends me.
Royal Rumble: "A battle royal with timed entrances? What an overbooked cluster****! Just have them all in the ring at the start. Gosh!"
Money in the Bank Ladder Match: "Six men in the ring at once AND a ladder? What an overbooked cluster****! Just have a one-on-one match. Gosh!"
War Games: "A brutal cage match with time entrances? What an overbooked cluster****! What's wrong with an old fashioned tag-team match? Gosh!"
Can wrestler A escape the cage and climb the ladder before wrestler B gets to him? Sounds like an intriguing blend of the classic cage and ladder matches to me. Well done, TNA.
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Post by Error on Dec 5, 2013 0:19:11 GMT -5
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Heel turn for Magnus is official. AJ is back to finish out, Beer Money "reunion" and Gunner has a World Title shot. Hardy written out and possibly the same for Angle. Wow.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 5, 2013 0:30:32 GMT -5
LMAO. Dixie is the money mark? Didn't AJ try to hold the company up for money despite being the babyface?
Kinda surprised they brought AJ back so soon but eh. Although, it's probably be gonna be like January when his return makes it to TV.
Everything else sounds fine. The Beer Money "reunion" sounds interesting.
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Post by JTG Fan on Dec 5, 2013 0:32:40 GMT -5
>Gunner mega-push >Rockstar Spud push >
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 5, 2013 0:34:57 GMT -5
Hey, they're going to take Jeff off Impact for a few shows before the UK tour, at least this time they're letting the UK know more than a week in advance that Jeff won't be there.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Dec 5, 2013 0:36:44 GMT -5
Hmmm, I remember the last thing people told me would be good in TNA. The shitty survivor series match last week.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Dec 5, 2013 0:37:16 GMT -5
The Night 2 taping has a bunch of stuff I want to see.
Sam Shaw Extreme Tiger Joe vs Kazarian? Hardy getting fed up The advancing of the Roode-Angle feud The title picture stuff.
Could be a pretty promising block of shows.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Dec 5, 2013 0:41:44 GMT -5
LMAO. Dixie is the money mark? Didn't AJ try to hold the company up for money despite being the babyface? Kinda surprised they brought AJ back so soon but eh. Although, it's probably be gonna be like January when his return makes it to TV. Everything else sounds fine. The Beer Money "reunion" sounds interesting. * Bischoff * RVD * Hulk Hogan * Nasty Boys in 2010 * Trying to recreate the NWO & ECW nearly ten years after both WCW & ECW died * Hired all former WCW talent available under the sun Nope, you're right.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 5, 2013 0:41:45 GMT -5
Wrestling fans declaring any and every unique match concept a "cluster****" or "overbooking" is one of my (few) pet peeves. It's such an anti-creativity, anti-innovation mindset, that it legitimately offends me. Royal Rumble: "A battle royal with timed entrances? What an overbooked cluster****! Just have them all in the ring at the start. Gosh!" Money in the Bank Ladder Match: "Six men in the ring at once AND a ladder? What an overbooked cluster****! Just have a one-on-one match. Gosh!" War Games: "A brutal cage match with time entrances? What an overbooked cluster****! What's wrong with an old fashioned tag-team match? Gosh!" Can wrestler A escape the cage and climb the ladder before wrestler B gets to him? Sounds like an intriguing blend of the classic cage and ladder matches to me. Well done, TNA. Good point except for the fact that's totally not the argument here. The point is that it's convoluted for the sake of being convoluted. Why combine two matches as different as a ladder match and a cage match? Why not just have a ladder match? Why not just have a cage match? You really couldn't reach the endpoint (Magnus winning the title after Dixie's cronies screw Hardy) without having this? f*** it, if all "unique" match types are good, why not take it even further? Why not have a First Blood Steel Cage Submission match? The only way to win is to escape the cage but you have to make your opponent bleed and tap out before you can escape. Oh and you can only climb over one side of the cage because all the other sides have barb wire on top. And you have to win in 10 minutes or the ring explodes. The point is, just because it's unique doesn't make the idea any good. There is a reason certain matches don't exist. I'm fine with new matches being created but f***'s sake, there has gotta be a logical storyline reason as to why it is happening. This "Dixieland" match sounds like it's being done because why not? Considering that all of TNA's road agents are f***ing terrible, I would think that they would try to avoid overbooked matches like this but I guess not.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 5, 2013 0:43:39 GMT -5
LMAO. Dixie is the money mark? Didn't AJ try to hold the company up for money despite being the babyface? Kinda surprised they brought AJ back so soon but eh. Although, it's probably be gonna be like January when his return makes it to TV. Everything else sounds fine. The Beer Money "reunion" sounds interesting. * Bischoff * RVD * Hulk Hogan * Nasty Boys in 2010 * Trying to recreate the NWO & ECW nearly ten years after both WCW & ECW died * Hired all former WCW talent available under the sun Nope, you're right. Not disputing any of that but I'm just saying it's kinda bizarre for AJ to say something like that when he himself said that he was the company up for money a couple of months ago.
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