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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 10, 2013 7:47:12 GMT -5
John Cena is a Rick Bassman guy. He's the guy who discovered him, taught him promos and pushed hard to get him into OVW. He's also the one who got him on television first in a discovery channel documentary. It's hard to say someone "discovered" him when another guy was shopping him around because he saw the dollar signs from the start. But Cena's also said that Bassman trained him so poorly he had to re-learn the craft from the ground up in OVW, so Bassman guy is overrating it. Stephanie McMahon Guy seems the best for Cena. I've never heard Cena say anything bad about his time in California. Cornette and Davis hated Bassman's school and that they were loaded with Cali bodybuilders and WWF kept sending them to him, when he wanted more traditional wrestlers. But, that's mainly on WWE's scouts not Bassman's school. Bassman also trained a lot of cruiserweights and bigger indy talents but WWF usually passed on or misused the Kazarians and Samoa Joe's. He had connections to scouts and gave them what they wanted, Cornette as is typical Cornette didn't see things the way talent scouts did. |
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Post by Professor Chaos on Dec 10, 2013 18:23:36 GMT -5
I'm a Rick Bassman guy. Unfortunately I never made it to the WWE. I can say I've rolled around with John Cena and Nathan Jones tho.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Dec 10, 2013 18:26:53 GMT -5
The fans made John Cena, brother.
And Vince McMahon. Nobody gets pushed to the moon without his approval.
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Dec 10, 2013 22:34:22 GMT -5
So we're ruling Vince out of the equation completely? I guess he really does only get credit for things that go wrong. Something that's been a success? Oh that must have been Heyman or Cornette. A complete failure? Damn you Vince *shakesfist* They're all Vince McMahon guys. But yeah, Vince played a huge role. Cena has pretty much been a dream come true for the WWE. I'm a Rick Bassman guy. Unfortunately I never made it to the WWE. I can say I've rolled around with John Cena and Nathan Jones tho. For real? With that many posts, I assume you've started a thread or two about the subject. |
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Post by Dave the Dave on Dec 10, 2013 22:42:32 GMT -5
So we're ruling Vince out of the equation completely? I guess he really does only get credit for things that go wrong. Something that's been a success? Oh that must have been Heyman or Cornette. A complete failure? Damn you Vince *shakesfist* You're such a joy. No one said anything about Vince. It was a simple oversight. If you just said, "Hey, to be a big star Vince has to like you so Vince had a hand it" that would be a nice way to get across a point. |
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Post by cool guy on Dec 10, 2013 22:44:49 GMT -5
So we're ruling Vince out of the equation completely? I guess he really does only get credit for things that go wrong. Something that's been a success? Oh that must have been Heyman or Cornette. A complete failure? Damn you Vince *shakesfist* Well, we're attributing things to Stephanie just fine, so I don't think it's a "which IWC favorite" thing. I think people just assume Vince is above the sort of middle-management role that leads to guys getting signed and getting their initial pushes. |
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Post by Professor Chaos on Dec 10, 2013 22:54:29 GMT -5
So we're ruling Vince out of the equation completely? I guess he really does only get credit for things that go wrong. Something that's been a success? Oh that must have been Heyman or Cornette. A complete failure? Damn you Vince *shakesfist* They're all Vince McMahon guys. But yeah, Vince played a huge role. Cena has pretty much been a dream come true for the WWE. I'm a Rick Bassman guy. Unfortunately I never made it to the WWE. I can say I've rolled around with John Cena and Nathan Jones tho. For real? With that many posts, I assume you've started a thread or two about the subject. I've mentioned it a few times. I briefly was involved in UPW back in 01. If I had known a guy there would go on to be the face of the WWE for a decade I'd have been much more serious about it |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2013 22:59:23 GMT -5
Stephanie was supposedly the one who told him to go with his rapper gimmick. If that's true, I'd say he's a Stephanie McMahon guy.  I guess he really is a Stephanie McMahon guy. |
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 11, 2013 0:37:08 GMT -5
His mom's eggs and dad's sperm.
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