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Post by The Gambler Fan on Dec 11, 2013 23:38:13 GMT -5
I guess most people forgot about 1995. I wish I forgotten about it too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2013 23:52:48 GMT -5
1999 is very iffy in PPV matches. Outside of some good stuff with Rock/Austin/Foley, gimmick stuff with Vince or the Tag Team ladder match at No Mercy, its nothing to write home about. Yeah, 1999 was terrible.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 11, 2013 23:57:12 GMT -5
There's a certain charm to 1999 as a whole though, as the characters involved in those top angles were (for the most part) firing on all cylinders and the fans are at least interested in those bad matches.
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Dec 12, 2013 0:00:02 GMT -5
2004 was real shitty after WM. Good God JBL tried but those smackdown PPV's were awful. I was thinking 2004 as well but more overall. I remember several really great matches but most what they did that year was awful. You had the very strong Rumble, No Way Out, and Mania shows to start out the year and then not a whole lot interesting happened. Actually, just for fun, I'm gonna see what I remember from each PPV that year right off the top of head. Royal Rumble: Hardcore Holly got a title shot (shitty), Triple H vs HBK in Last Man Standing (7/10), Eddie vs Chavo (Chavo Classic was there!), and the Rumble with Benoit winning. Fun Fact: Kane was eliminated that year after he was distracted by the Undertaker's gong, he proceeded to attack Spike Dudley before Spike made it to the ring so he and Scotty 2 Hotty are both in the same boat of "Guys that never made it to the ring because a Brother of Destruction hit them in the face." No Way Out: Nidia vs Jamie Knoble, Rey hung out with a boxer I think, and Eddie won the title. Really just a one moment show but that moment was so powerful that 95% of people forget Goldberg helped Eddie win. Wrestlemania XX: We all remember the big moment from this show, Ultimo Dragon fell down. Backlash: Triple H vs Shawn Michaels vs Chris Benoit II, in Canada this time. Forgotten classic. Another classic? Orton vs Foley, that match kicked all the ass. All of it. Judgment Day: Mordecai! Also, Eddie bleeding profusely. Bad Blood: It took me a minute but I'm fairly certain Kane vs Benoit happened on this show. I think Triple H was probably booked somewhere. He likely went over. Great American Bash: JBL wins the title, Paul Bearer is buried in cement by the Undertaker. Vengeance: Edge vs Orton for the IC title happened on this show and it was f***ing awesome. This match has lost a lot of the love it had initially but I can still sit down and be captivated by that match. I think Matt Hardy vs Kane in a hardcore match happened too but it wasn't very good. Triple H vs Benoit finally had a singles match and it was also disappointing. I'm 90% sure Coachman had a match on that show and Eugene was in Evolution. Summerslam: Actually, not the worst show overall. Eddie/Angle, Jericho/Edge/Batista, Bubba/Spike/D'Von vs Kidman/London/Rey, Triple H/Eugene, Benoit/Orton, and even Cena/Booker were all good-great matches with Hardy/Kane and Taker/JBL being the only real stinkers. JBL took a powerbomb through the roof of his limo though so that was a cool spot. Another fun fact: A guy from the stands jumped the barrier and climbed atop JBL's limo to start dancing before security got him. They had to work quickly though because he was inches away from the gimmicked roof which would've sent him through the roof instead of JBL. Unforgiven: Jericho and Christian had a pretty good ladder match, HBK beat Kane for some reason, I think La Resistance vs Tajiri and Rhyno went on second to last while Benoit opened the show, despite being champion a month before. Oh, and Triple H got his belt back. No Mercy: Cena and Booker had the fifth match and their okay best of five series. Taker vs JBL was in a Last Ride Match that ended when Hidenreich interfered. That's the most 2005 sentence of this whole write-up. Survivor Series: Maven main evented. Guys, Maven main evented. Then he got to be GM of Raw for a week! Armageddon: Cena beat Jesus! I'd say that 1996 is a pretty close competitor for the title of worse though. You forgot Taboo Tuesday.
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Post by chronocross on Dec 12, 2013 0:05:30 GMT -5
1999 was absolutely horrible, after watching some TV/PPVs from that year, it hasn't aged well. I remember ordering No Mercy 99 and being disappointed with the main event, but really loved the ladder match with Edge & Christian and the Hardy's. Survivor Series was dreadful, the one match everyone wanted to see (Austin vs Rock vs HHH) didn't happen and Big Show was put into it instead with deflated the crowd. Armageddon had one of the worst main events with Vince vs. HHH and a very forgettable undercard. Most of the PPV's that year were hard to sit through, luckily things were looking up in 2000.
Also, 2004 ranks right up there after Backlash as it nosedives in quality with Judgment Day (JBL/Eddie was the only memorable thing) and Bad Blood and one of the worst HBK/HHH matches I've seen. Don't get me started on the Unforgiven 04 show, with that Stevie Richards/Tomko match that just had to see the light of day. Things would improve in 2005 fortunately.
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Post by Hawk Hart on Dec 12, 2013 0:09:53 GMT -5
I was thinking 2004 as well but more overall. I remember several really great matches but most what they did that year was awful. You had the very strong Rumble, No Way Out, and Mania shows to start out the year and then not a whole lot interesting happened. Actually, just for fun, I'm gonna see what I remember from each PPV that year right off the top of head. Royal Rumble: Hardcore Holly got a title shot (shitty), Triple H vs HBK in Last Man Standing (7/10), Eddie vs Chavo (Chavo Classic was there!), and the Rumble with Benoit winning. Fun Fact: Kane was eliminated that year after he was distracted by the Undertaker's gong, he proceeded to attack Spike Dudley before Spike made it to the ring so he and Scotty 2 Hotty are both in the same boat of "Guys that never made it to the ring because a Brother of Destruction hit them in the face." No Way Out: Nidia vs Jamie Knoble, Rey hung out with a boxer I think, and Eddie won the title. Really just a one moment show but that moment was so powerful that 95% of people forget Goldberg helped Eddie win. Wrestlemania XX: We all remember the big moment from this show, Ultimo Dragon fell down. Backlash: Triple H vs Shawn Michaels vs Chris Benoit II, in Canada this time. Forgotten classic. Another classic? Orton vs Foley, that match kicked all the ass. All of it. Judgment Day: Mordecai! Also, Eddie bleeding profusely. Bad Blood: It took me a minute but I'm fairly certain Kane vs Benoit happened on this show. I think Triple H was probably booked somewhere. He likely went over. Great American Bash: JBL wins the title, Paul Bearer is buried in cement by the Undertaker. Vengeance: Edge vs Orton for the IC title happened on this show and it was f***ing awesome. This match has lost a lot of the love it had initially but I can still sit down and be captivated by that match. I think Matt Hardy vs Kane in a hardcore match happened too but it wasn't very good. Triple H vs Benoit finally had a singles match and it was also disappointing. I'm 90% sure Coachman had a match on that show and Eugene was in Evolution. Summerslam: Actually, not the worst show overall. Eddie/Angle, Jericho/Edge/Batista, Bubba/Spike/D'Von vs Kidman/London/Rey, Triple H/Eugene, Benoit/Orton, and even Cena/Booker were all good-great matches with Hardy/Kane and Taker/JBL being the only real stinkers. JBL took a powerbomb through the roof of his limo though so that was a cool spot. Another fun fact: A guy from the stands jumped the barrier and climbed atop JBL's limo to start dancing before security got him. They had to work quickly though because he was inches away from the gimmicked roof which would've sent him through the roof instead of JBL. Unforgiven: Jericho and Christian had a pretty good ladder match, HBK beat Kane for some reason, I think La Resistance vs Tajiri and Rhyno went on second to last while Benoit opened the show, despite being champion a month before. Oh, and Triple H got his belt back. No Mercy: Cena and Booker had the fifth match and their okay best of five series. Taker vs JBL was in a Last Ride Match that ended when Hidenreich interfered. That's the most 2005 sentence of this whole write-up. Survivor Series: Maven main evented. Guys, Maven main evented. Then he got to be GM of Raw for a week! Armageddon: Cena beat Jesus! I'd say that 1996 is a pretty close competitor for the title of worse though. You forgot Taboo Tuesday. My point proven.
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Post by chazraps on Dec 12, 2013 0:16:41 GMT -5
2004 was a terrible year...
...but let's not attack 1996 just by reading the cards. A lot of those shows were at least well put together without anything terrible lasting too long and often had enough going on so that even during the weaker matches you would hear bits and pieces about what's happening involving the rest of the roster/show. While they may look weak on paper, they're a lot easier to sit through than everything in 2004 not named Backlash.
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Post by thegame415 on Dec 12, 2013 5:05:17 GMT -5
2004, 2007, 2009, and 2010 are all bad to me.
I don't think 2013 has been that bad, as the Rumble was fun, plus Payback, MitB and Summerslam were all great, SummerSlam is probably the best show since MitB 2011 and is the second best Summerslam of all time in my opinion.
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Post by spagett on Dec 12, 2013 5:21:23 GMT -5
2009 was terrible but Backlash was brilliant.
It was like they were trying to make up for how crappy Wrestlemania had been the month before.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2013 6:09:31 GMT -5
2013 hasn't been an awful year for PPV, it's just been forgettable and boring. PPV's like Extreme Rules, Night of Champions, Battleground etc. weren't horrible shows individually, they were just filled with mediocre matches that had no consequences to them. When I think of truly horrendous PPV's I think of December 2 Dismember and Wrestlemania 11.
If you want to see a year with truly awful PPV's, try 2004, or better yet 1995. Those are truly awful PPV years.
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Post by TGM on Dec 12, 2013 7:25:35 GMT -5
Was there anything memorable about 1999 aside from the rumble?
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Post by wildojinx on Dec 12, 2013 8:55:28 GMT -5
2000 wasnt that great either, despite being one of the most profitable years. The Rumble and Backlash and Judgement Day were all good shows, but was there anything memorable about the other ppvs? Most of the major events of that year happened on RAW and Smackdown.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 12, 2013 9:09:28 GMT -5
Was there anything memorable about 1999 aside from the rumble?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 12, 2013 9:09:45 GMT -5
Was there anything memorable about 1999 aside from the rumble? Not much on PPV, but quite a lot on TV, which is part of the problem.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 12, 2013 9:11:49 GMT -5
Was there anything memorable about 1999 aside from the rumble? "Where to Stephanie?", Love Her or Leave Her Greenwich Streetfight, the debut of The Posse, and the No Mercy Ladder Match.
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Post by crash1984 on Dec 12, 2013 12:54:36 GMT -5
I am going to say something different. Rather than giving one year in the form of a four digit number, I am going to give a year from two dates. From October 1, 2006 to October 1, 2007 WWE produced some of the most garbage pay-per-views in history in fact within those 365 days there was a grand total of three pay-per-views that were watchable.
No Mercy 2006-This was one of the three good ones and is very under-rated. The only reason it really falls on this list was so I would have a one year period.
Cyber Sunday 2006-Weak show. First of all you had Flair and Piper winning the tag team championship over the Spirit Squad. Does not sound that bad except it was obvious WWE wanted it to be Rhodes and Flair but fans voted for Piper. Then you had the battle for top champion with a fan voted title on the line. First of all there was not any way that Booker T was going to lose that night. First Cena was the face so no way he is defending his title. Second Smackdown was the more heavily watched show between it and ECW so no way Big Show defends his. Third, WWE was not going to have one show go without a champion. The cherry on top of the crap sundae was that the main event featured interference from K-fed
Survivor Series-The thought about going back to traditional Survivor Series matches sounded great but the execution was terrible. The worst moment of the entiree ordeal though came when Team DX swept Team Rated RKO.
December to Dismember-I would not say that this is the worst pay-per-view ever as there are a lot of ones that was worse, but it was easily one of the worst pay-per-views wrestling had seen in a very long time. Only two matches were advertised the rest of the stuff was simply things you would have seen on a bad episode of ECW on Sci-Fi.
Armageddon-Once again Smackdown 2006 delivered a great showing. The main event was a bit uninteresting but the rest of the card easily made up for it.
New Years Revolution-Triple H got injured which resulted in The Great Khali coming to Raw. Also I believe this was the show where Cryme Tyme won a tag-team title shot but never got to use it.
Royal Rumble-This was one of the good shows though I did think the whole Ruptured Spleen bit was a bit too much
No Way Out-For the most part this show felt like it was filler material. The one match they had that could have had potential was the rematch of the Armageddon 2006 ladder match. Of course WWE changed that one to a regular uninteresting tag team match.
Wrestlemania-This Wrestlemania was built around Battle of the Billionaires, something that most people could care less about. Also the fact that all the big spoilers for the match (Lashley as Trump's representative, Austin as referee) was spoiled by trump long before WWE announced it.
Backlash-This was the beginning of the "Let's cram Cena down everyone's throat" era. Also this was where Vince's ego got in the way and allowed him to win the ECW Championship
Judgement Day-This was during the whole Cena vs. Khali feud that was terrible.
One Night Stand-This is the first of the three shows I call the Rotten Trilogy. The matches were terrible main evented by Cena and Khali. Oh and because WWE thinks it turns fans on there was also a Diva's pudding match.
Vengeance-The second in the Rotten Trilogy. If you throw out the fact that this show happened when the Benoit mess was going on, and you throw out the fact that Nitro replaced Benoit with zero explanation. You will discover that this was a terrible show. Once again they done the "lets shove Cena down everyone's throat" routine by having him in a six-pack challenge
The Great American Bash-It was not as bad as other Great American Bashes and it was better than the last few pay-per-views but it still was not all that great.
Summerslam-It was not as bad as previous shows but it still was not that great. To start with HHH returned and beat Booker T even though Booker T carried the whole feud. The one saving grace about this show was that WWE dropped the whole Jackass at Summerslam before it happened.
Unforgiven-The final show of the Rotten Trilogy. Again nothing spectacular happened and for the most part it felt like it was filler material.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2013 15:24:49 GMT -5
2000 wasnt that great either, despite being one of the most profitable years. The Rumble and Backlash and Judgement Day were all good shows, but was there anything memorable about the other ppvs? Most of the major events of that year happened on RAW and Smackdown. No Way Out (HHH/Cactus in the Cell) and Fully Loaded (HHH/Jericho Last Man Standing and an awesome Rock/Benoit match) were also excellent shows IMO.
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Post by AKIMan64 on Dec 12, 2013 19:14:11 GMT -5
2000 wasnt that great either, despite being one of the most profitable years. The Rumble and Backlash and Judgement Day were all good shows, but was there anything memorable about the other ppvs? Most of the major events of that year happened on RAW and Smackdown. I respectfully disagree. I enjoyed 2000 not because it was from the Attitude Era, but I felt they utilized their roster pretty well. The main events delivered consistently, and even the under card had something to offer. A lot of engaging feuds (e.g Rock/HHH, Benoit/Jericho, Hardyz/Dudleyz/E&C) and even some underrated gems (e.g. Dean Malenko v. Scotty 2 Hotty, Rikishi v. Val Venis in a Steel Cage). As for worse year, I'm gonna have to go with 2004. Raw PPVs were average to good, but Smackdown was difficult to stomach especially after Wrestlemania. Aside from Eddie/JBL, Judgment Day was forgettable, Great American Bash was a bore fest (Kenzo Suzuki v. Billy Gunn, Taker v. Dudleyz in the main event?), No Mercy was ok, and Armageddon was awful. I've seen some of the 2007 PPVs but it's about close.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2013 8:04:26 GMT -5
I'm not saying it is the all-time worst (it's my favorite year in wrestling), but my goodness, you had to weed through a lot of crap to get to the good stuff on PPV in 1997.
Take all the good PPV matches from that year and you might get a decent DVD out of it.
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