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Post by tekkenguy on Dec 15, 2013 2:06:33 GMT -5
How many times have insider terms been referenced or alluded to on WWE TV? You know, words like "Face", "Heel", Push", "Bury", "Over", "Sell", "Work", "Shoot", "Kayfabe", "Gimmick", "Pop", "Heat," etc.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 2:10:52 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever heard them say "kayfabe" on TV before.
Pretty sure I've heard all the others.
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Post by Tony Schiavontay on Dec 15, 2013 2:15:03 GMT -5
Game over? YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT I'M OVER!
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Post by Mr. Butter Fingers on Dec 15, 2013 2:20:15 GMT -5
Didn't Miz say 'heel' a while back on Raw?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 2:21:21 GMT -5
Cena said 'heel turn'
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 2:23:36 GMT -5
They talked about gimmicks and overness a lot during the Al Snow/Steve Blackman storyline.
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Post by JTG Fan on Dec 15, 2013 2:28:03 GMT -5
I feel like Mick Foley used to make frequent references to 'selling', like his comment about not laying down and selling that abortion of a move (People's Elbow in it's pre-finisher days) or his joke about Al Snow not selling chairs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 2:39:47 GMT -5
Marc Mero straight up called Sal Sincere a jobber with a bad gimmick back in the Attitude Era. Hell he even called him out by his real name.
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Post by nickcave on Dec 15, 2013 3:48:34 GMT -5
Dolph's twitter handle is HEELZiggler so that one is probably the most obvious. There's the whole "I BURIED my feelings" promo from Triple H right after Summerslam that was pretty much a subtle play on the way the internet perceives him.
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Post by celticjobber on Dec 15, 2013 4:17:46 GMT -5
I remember Mick Foley calling someone a "white meat babyface" a few years ago. It might have been when he was on commentary.
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Post by BigBadZ on Dec 15, 2013 5:20:23 GMT -5
I believe WWE used to sell shirts with these wrestling terms (spoiler'd because of size) {Spoiler} Spoiler{Spoiler} Spoiler{Spoiler} Spoiler
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Post by bearned on Dec 15, 2013 5:22:41 GMT -5
I remember Edge and Christian on commentary saying they were going to do a 'run in'
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Dec 15, 2013 5:29:57 GMT -5
Regal said Alex Riley was "burying himself" on NXT this week.
That's OK, but actual insider terms should stay that way and have no place on television. D'you ever catch Tony Soprano winking at the camera or calling Paulie by his real name?
WWE don't have any current examples, but Mr Anderson's "Wrestling is real, people are fake" shirt annoys the hell out of me. We're supposed to take whatever is happening in the ring seriously and then this idiot comes out wearing that?
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Post by MiLB Fan on Dec 15, 2013 5:36:18 GMT -5
WWE's web show "Are You Serious" was peppered with insider references. One episode featured a character named Mark, Who is Smart.
I remember the board throwing a spaz over that one!
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 15, 2013 5:38:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 12:40:47 GMT -5
Regal said Alex Riley was "burying himself" on NXT this week. That's OK, but actual insider terms should stay that way and have no place on television. D'you ever catch Tony Soprano winking at the camera or calling Paulie by his real name? WWE don't have any current examples, but Mr Anderson's "Wrestling is real, people are fake" shirt annoys the hell out of me. We're supposed to take whatever is happening in the ring seriously and then this idiot comes out wearing that? The Sopranos exists in a different type of reality to the WWE though. The Sopranos doesn't have a live audience around every side of the action with a big screen showing them whats happening in other locations. Therefore The Sopranos couldn't adjust to the audiences reaction in real time It also doesn't have announcers who spend the whole show doing a voice over that is directly addressing the audience. Nor would the characters on the sopranos (if twitter existed at the time) of been tweeting all week with fans about the show. I don't mind subtle breaking of kayfabe when it's done in ways that wil go over casual fans heads but that the more die hard fans will appreciate, it adds layers to the show and doesn't really subtract anything from it, the people those references appeal to spend most their time watching wrestling without suspending their disbelief anyway as evident by reading this forum. Also alot of "insider" references can exist and be explained perfectly in kayfabe anyway, a cheap pop is using something like the town your ins name for a cheap cheer, hardly a concept that cant exist in kayfabe. Even Face Or Heel can exist as terms in kayfabe, people thinking you're bad so call you a heel again is something that is perfectly explainable in kayfabe. Getting over just means getting a better reaction from the crowd, see where I'm going with this? again it's a concept that exists just fine in kayfabe.
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Post by Bootista on Dec 15, 2013 12:42:08 GMT -5
Lawler referred to cheap pop Anytime Foley played up to the city That RAW was in
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Post by xCompackx on Dec 15, 2013 13:02:45 GMT -5
John Cena does it a lot, thinking about it. During the build to the first Cena vs. Punk, he did a promo mocking how people want him to turn heel. He mentioned that a lot during his stuff with Rock too.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Dec 15, 2013 13:22:25 GMT -5
They've kinda been doing it with the "Never drew a dime" stuff they did with Edge and Triple H a few months earlier. Of course in kayfabe I have no idea what that's supposed to mean. How is anybody supposed to be a draw in the fictional WWE Universe? People pay to see them? How do you know more people came to see Kofi than Orton or something?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 15, 2013 13:24:09 GMT -5
WWE's web show "Are You Serious" was peppered with insider references. One episode featured a character named Mark, Who is Smart. I remember the board throwing a spaz over that one! I found this absolutely hilarious by the way. Also I remember at Backlash 2000 JR saying 'the ladder gets a pop!'
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