The Ichi
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 20, 2013 6:22:00 GMT -5
a third one WAS made and Voight is indeed in it. He's also in the supposedly upcoming 4 and 5.... yep. Wow. That's just the saddest thing. Voight was at one time one of the greatest actors alive and this is the shit he does. There needs to be AA recovery meetings for good actors who do this. "Hello, my name is Jon. And I star in terrible movies." "Hi, Jon!" I think some actors just decide they're not gonna try after winning an Oscar. Why not? That may explain why Leo doesn't have any. They want him to remain awesome.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 20, 2013 13:22:02 GMT -5
Wow. That's just the saddest thing. Voight was at one time one of the greatest actors alive and this is the shit he does. There needs to be AA recovery meetings for good actors who do this. "Hello, my name is Jon. And I star in terrible movies." "Hi, Jon!" I think some actors just decide they're not gonna try after winning an Oscar. Why not? That may explain why Leo doesn't have any. They want him to remain awesome. Leo will get one someday, but it'll be like Al Pacino where he wins it in a weak year where he hams it up in an otherwise forgettable film and gets the "thank you" Oscar ala Sean Penn in Milk but without robbing the guy who should've won.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Dec 20, 2013 13:28:59 GMT -5
I think some actors just decide they're not gonna try after winning an Oscar. Why not? That may explain why Leo doesn't have any. They want him to remain awesome. Leo will get one someday, but it'll be like Al Pacino where he wins it in a weak year where he hams it up in an otherwise forgettable film and gets the "thank you" Oscar ala Sean Penn in Milk but without robbing the guy who should've won. Sean Penn in Milk was not a "thank you" Oscar. He already won one a few years before and "robbing the guy who should've won"? He won the Screen Actor's Guild award and several other Critics awards for that role, that is not exactly robbing someone else of an Oscar.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 20, 2013 13:30:52 GMT -5
Leo will get one someday, but it'll be like Al Pacino where he wins it in a weak year where he hams it up in an otherwise forgettable film and gets the "thank you" Oscar ala Sean Penn in Milk but without robbing the guy who should've won. Sean Penn in Milk was not a "thank you" Oscar. He already won one a few years before and "robbing the guy who should've won"? He won the Screen Actor's Guild award and several other Critics awards for that role, that is not exactly robbing someone else of an Oscar. let's just say I disagree and leave it at that.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Dec 20, 2013 13:35:03 GMT -5
Sean Penn in Milk was not a "thank you" Oscar. He already won one a few years before and "robbing the guy who should've won"? He won the Screen Actor's Guild award and several other Critics awards for that role, that is not exactly robbing someone else of an Oscar. let's just say I disagree and leave it at that. I just don't think a fantastic performance that was nominated for several other awards and winning lots of them (including arguably the most prestigious SAG award) is "robbing" someone. If say Eddie Murphy won that year for Norbit (or any other crap he was in that year), I might agree that was a "robbing".
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 20, 2013 13:38:28 GMT -5
let's just say I disagree and leave it at that. I just don't think a fantastic performance that was nominated for several other awards and winning lots of them (including arguably the most prestigious SAG award) is "robbing" someone. If say Eddie Murphy won that year for Norbit (or any other crap he was in that year), I might agree that was a "robbing". I`d think if Norbit won it`d be time to close town the Academy forever and send the lot of them (even Spielberg, who DIDN`T vote for Norbit) to the looney bin.
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mizerable
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Post by mizerable on Dec 20, 2013 13:39:08 GMT -5
Eh, Milk was a decent movie.
But it was a movie that overemphasized one person's greatness, without giving much credit to Moscone. For that, it's really hard for me to accept Penn's performance...which was pretty good, but I don't consider it on the level that Rourke had with The Wrestler. I think Rourke likely would have won, if he kept his mouth shut. And unlike Penn who will get many many more opportunities, this was Rourke's only good role since Angel Heart. Now he's right back to the schlock roles he was used to in the 90's.
Btw...Al Pacino was awesome in Scent of a Woman. Great movie. But yeah, he's been phoning it in for years. People want to see Pacino yell, which is a shame since IMO, his best performance was playing a meek guy in Scarecrow.
And Leo hasn't deserved a single Oscar in any role he's had yet.
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Post by Hurbster on Dec 20, 2013 18:48:46 GMT -5
Ben Kingsley was in Uwe Boll's Bloodrayne. A film even Meatloaf had his name removed from.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 20, 2013 19:58:38 GMT -5
Regarding Halle Berry, she's fine so long as she's not trying to play an action girl- she's just laughably bad at it. She does a lot better with more doe-eyed, victimized characters like in Queen and Monster's Ball.
The Wrestler...it wasn't bad, and Rourke did great in it, but the whole plot felt like a male oriented retread of The Rose. The whole ending sequence and its plot points uncannily mirror Rose's, right down to the ambiguous ending and even the somber ballad played over the ending credits. Milk blew me away, OTOH.
Leo's lack of Oscars? It's a conspiracy. He got robbed TWICE for Aviator and Django Unchained, so we know the problem's not with him.
Oh, and as much as I love her, Whoopi Goldberg. Bogus, Superbabies, Rocky & Bullwinkle, Theodore Rex, An Alan Smithee Film Burn Hollywood Burn, and while I don't like to judge something before it comes out, she's in Michael Bay's upcoming TMNT flick.
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Juice
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Post by Juice on Dec 20, 2013 20:22:02 GMT -5
Dennis hopper?
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mizerable
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Post by mizerable on Dec 20, 2013 23:27:43 GMT -5
Only nominated. Here's the thing...he came back from obscurity a few times. After Easy Rider, he was in a lot of shit prior to landing Blue Velvet as well as an Academy Award nominated role in Hoosiers. Then he directed a very awful movie called Backtrack and for a couple years, he was back to shit roles. But after the Mario Bros piece of shit, at least he had some decent roles in Red Rock West, True Romance and Speed. Kind of sucks that the last 16 years of his life he was involved in nothing but shit, which might have carried over into his personal life.
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Post by Dragonfly on Dec 21, 2013 0:01:09 GMT -5
Louis Gossett Jr. is the original Cuba Gooding Jr. There was An Officer and a Gentleman, Enemy Mine and... Um... 97 Iron Eagle movies.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 21, 2013 2:58:00 GMT -5
Al Pacino, if only for Gigli and Jack & Jill. Righteous Kill, too. God, what a terrible movie.
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Post by CM Parish on Dec 21, 2013 6:33:00 GMT -5
Leo's lack of Oscars? It's a conspiracy. He got robbed TWICE for Aviator and Django Unchained, so we know the problem's not with him. Leo should have about 6 Oscars.
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