Why does WWE always screw up good angles?

[tekkenguy]

Every time WWE has made a good angle, they go on to screw it up. Angles like the Nexus, CM Punk vs. WWE, and most recently Daniel Bryan have all been ruined. Why has WWE always screwed those angles up rather than plot out a good, exciting angle.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Because they're like a virgin with a pretty girl. They blow their load right away, just in case she changes her mind and wanders off to something else.

[rnrk supports BLM]

WWE's angles start out as clean-cut Olympic medal-winning athletes, then turn into beastiality-sex-craving whackos.

I blame all the chairshots to the head.

[bigalbass86 AKA Smokin Vokoun]

I don't think in THEIR mind they're screwing up. Like everything that's bad is all apart of the master plan. I know it's weird.

[MichaelMartini]

My suspicion is that Vince is hurting his own product. His control and senility are the only things that make sense. Like he can't remember what's going on from week to week and makes changes for no reason.

Or maybe it's a lack of Vince as an onscreen personality. In both boom periods he was absolutely instrumental in their success as an announcer and then as a star.

[Brother Nero....Wolfe]

It's like...let's go with fencing, because it's the sport I have experience with. Sometimes in practice you see a relatively inexperienced guy who is having an average performance in a fierce match score a wonderful hit. Then, strangely, he starts to get hit a lot more. Why? It's because it was a lucky hit in a game of strategy, but the inexperienced guy tries to make it into something else. He tries to analyse what made it work and implement it on his strategy. Only he is too inexperienced with fencing, so he has no clue what he did that allowed him to get that lucky hit in. So he starts to latch on to absolutely irrelevant stuff at the cost of his usual balance, going the opposite way from scoring another beautiful hit and into "screwing up whatever momentum he just gained" territory.

The WWE is like that. They have no experience with good storytelling so when they accidentally cross the border they just have no idea what to do. It's a brand new world to them and they know it as much as an infant knows the laws of physics.

[Chip]

They don't know when enough is enough, they always drag something out so long it becomes terrible. Nexus, Summer of Punk, Bryans Rockin' Summer all went on for far too long as they found something that people got hot about and decided to milk every last penny from it they could. They almost seem to try to make a second chapter and it almost never works.

[mcmahonfan85]

Dec 19, 2013 2:41:10 GMT -5 Chip said:

They don't know when enough is enough, they always drag something out so long it becomes terrible. Nexus, Summer of Punk, Bryans Rockin' Summer all went on for far too long as they found something that people got hot about and decided to milk every last penny from it they could. They almost seem to try to make a second chapter and it almost never works.

Summer of Punk 2.0 didn't go on for "far too long", it was too damn short. Punk won the title, left the company, then returned one week later where the storyline quickly went to shit with the addition of conspiracies, MitB cash-ins, power plays for control of the company, etc. it wasn't something the fans got sick of, it was something the fans wanted to see more of and WWE decided "let's do something else instead"

[Chip]

Dec 19, 2013 3:18:56 GMT -5 mcmahonfan85 said:

Dec 19, 2013 2:41:10 GMT -5 Chip said:

They don't know when enough is enough, they always drag something out so long it becomes terrible. Nexus, Summer of Punk, Bryans Rockin' Summer all went on for far too long as they found something that people got hot about and decided to milk every last penny from it they could. They almost seem to try to make a second chapter and it almost never works.

Summer of Punk 2.0 didn't go on for "far too long", it was too damn short. Punk won the title, left the company, then returned one week later where the storyline quickly went to shit with the addition of conspiracies, MitB cash-ins, power plays for control of the company, etc. it wasn't something the fans got sick of, it was something the fans wanted to see more of and WWE decided "let's do something else instead"

Honestly, I felt Punk walking into the sunset with the title should have been the end of it and he stays away for one to two months, potentially have him show up at PR events like he did for Comic Con, man, remember how people blew up about that? That was awesome. On his return he sparks a different storyline rather then dragging out his existing storyline into being something nobody wanted it to be. Would they have just done the exact same storyline? Potentially but at least it wouldn't have tainted something special.

Punk getting the title, in his home of Chicago, denying a MITB cash-in and pretty much telling Vince to kiss his ass on the way out is the peak, that's the big ending for your story, you can't get bigger then that so why even try by dragging it out, no matter where you go with it, it's gonna be a disappointment.

[Hit Girl]

It's because going all the way with big stories would result in change, which would require WWE to actually innovate.

WWE prefers to maintain a holding pattern, which means things always resort to the status quo, usually with an establishment guy going over, or assuming the focus of the angle.

[Tiger Millionaire]

[Straight Edge Scrotum]

...because the people writing the storylines have something different in mind than you do?

[mrjl]

Dec 19, 2013 5:22:14 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

It's because going all the way with big stories would result in change, which would require WWE to actually innovate.

WWE prefers to maintain a holding pattern, which means things always resort to the status quo, usually with an establishment guy going over, or assuming the focus of the angle.

change is not automatically innovation. Everyone watching these angles hopes they'll result in the next big thing/ next major star popping up. But considering WWE is constantly airing if every major angle resulted in the new next big thing then that means every previous big thing is a choke artist who fails when it's his turn to stand up to pressure and a lot of previous NBTs are put out to pasture with a ton of shelf life on them,

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

WWE failed geometry. Can you blame them? Working with all those shapes and shit.

[xCompackx]

It doesn't help that WWE traditionally seems to not care about the September-December months when it comes to storyline advancement. They should really just do these "big" angles after WrestleMania and have them conclude at SummerSlam while Creative still gives a damn.

[wisdomwizard]

I don't think the angle with Daniel Bryan has been ruined. If Wrestlemania comes, and The Authority haven't gotten any comeuppance whatsoever, and if Bryan gets sent to the lowercard then I'd say it was ruined. I agree that the Nexus angle and the Summer of Punk (when Nash got involved) fell apart. But the first half of both angles went really well. I still think the Tie Incident with Bryan as well as Tarver and Ryback's injuries didn't help the Nexus.


The thing is, I'd rather they at least try and do some big stories, than not bother at all. From what I gather from how the rest of the McMahon murder angle was supposed to go, it sounded silly but also really good. If not for the problems with Mr. Kennedy it could have been salvaged. The Benoit Incident is the only reason it was dropped. I think that made them gunshy about doing anything big in WWE again until The Nexus in 2010. Personally, I think they're getting better about it. But as Ice Demon pointed out, it doesn't help that Fall usually leads to a down period. I think the current angle is a good idea, but it got hurt a bit thanks to the PPV schedule with HIAC and Battleground. WWE should never have only two weeks in-between a PPV. It's ridiculous. Because of that, they rushed things a bit leading to the screwy endings that resulted in calls for refunds.


But now we're done with TLC, which sounds like it was good, but because some people thought Cena was turning heel and hate Orton, they hated the ending and have thrown the entire PPV under the bus. But I think TLC unlike the Fall PPVs was a good step forward. Thankfully, Orton seems to have stepped things up which has even impressed some of his biggest detractors here. If he can maintain the gumption he had on RAW than I think the rest of this angle should be exciting.

[Ryback on a Pole!]

Because the creative team aren't satisfied with keeping things simple, straight forward and obvious. They always need to throw in needless twists (Nash sexting himself rather than ADR which was the obvious choice and should have been what they went with) or overcomplicate things by hinting at an ulterior motive (The bigger picture).

Keep things simple. This isn't The Usual Suspects... it's WWE. There's no need to over complicate everything.

[Sam Punk]

It's because the booking team is made up of failed Hollywood writers. If they could write a good story, they'd still be in Hollywood.

[saintpat]

I don't think WWE screwed up DB-Kane's Anger Management angle

I don't think WWE has screwed up the Shield or the Wyatts.

WWE certainly didn't screw up the Cody-Golddust vs. Authority angle.

[A Platypus Rave]

The CM Punk thing, again people were bitching that Punk wasn't on RAW following Money in the Bank... I can't imagine the complaints if he was off for longer than he was.

Not to mention he was white hot at the time and not using him runs the risk of fans cooling off on him in the interim.

Now what happened after he returned with Kevin Nash and Triple H... yeah no arguments from me that they totally screwed that up