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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 20, 2013 11:39:35 GMT -5
They don't do anything with the lower card belts they have now...
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Post by MasonK565 on Dec 20, 2013 11:39:41 GMT -5
A title catered towards cruiser weights would be fine.
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Post by TGM on Dec 20, 2013 11:44:23 GMT -5
Scrap all titles except the WWE title. It's all they care about anyway.
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 20, 2013 12:44:56 GMT -5
If the Hardcore belt is a little too much for right now- why not get the same effect by officially recognizing Zack Ryder's Internet Championship as a real title belt with the 24/7 ruleset, but you can only get a shot if you have a referee with a smartphone to Tout/videotape the defense. Same effect, and takes the only real belt they'd need back (the 24/7 Hardcore Title to just add a touch more lowcarders, NXTers, and controlled frenzy (/Cole) to the show, but take out the Hardcore nature and replace it with a more timely concept. (If TNA can have 24/7 videos for Impact, WWE can have a 24/7 title defended through video updates.)
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 20, 2013 16:20:38 GMT -5
NO
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Post by RedDevil on Dec 20, 2013 20:22:11 GMT -5
I'm in the NO MORE TITLES camp.
When I started watching (back in the days of black and white television, when the arenas only had candlelight... 1992 was pretty bleak) then you only had the WWF title, IC title and tag titles - that seemed fine to me. The Women's returned shortly after that but Alundra Blayze wasn't always around so it didn't seem important. Adding the European title in 1997 seemed huge news back then.
Now I don't think the Hardcore title would work in the PG environment (not that the hardcore matches back in the Attitude era were intense on the whole - the props got increasingly more cartoonish). The 24 hour rule was great fun though.
Also a TV title would get old pretty fast - it'd basically be Miz vs. Kofi every week still, only with a largely meaningless strap being traded between them. It could work very well if they used it to develop a series similar to Benoit v. Booker, but would WWE put that much work in for the lower/mid-card talent?
I agree with those that talk about unifying the US and IC titles - the former doesn't have a great history of being used well in recent years (Bret Hart's title win is probably the highlight for it, which tells its own story).
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 20, 2013 20:51:59 GMT -5
There's already two midcard belts going unused if they want to push the midcard. Exactly. If the WWE wanted to push the Justin Gabriels and Yoshi Tatsus of the world, then they would have been consistently involved in the IC/US/Tag title scenes. They aren't pushed because the WWE doesn't want to push them, not because of a lack of space in the midcard. But even if Justin Gabriel and Yoshi Tatsu were getting regular tv time, they aren't on the same level as Big E Langston, and they surely aren't on the same level as Dean Ambrose, who is pretty much a semi-main event level talent. That's why the U.S. Belt is "stuck". Ambrose has been pushed too hard. The people who "should" be fighting for the title aren't credible enough to wrestle him. The people who ARE credible enough to wrestle him are "too good" for the U.S. Title. That's the same reason Cesaro ended up being left off of WM29.
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Post by Instant Classic on Dec 20, 2013 20:54:43 GMT -5
retire the US title then bring in a tv title and or bring in the Hardcore title. Both titles mostly for under card.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 2:57:01 GMT -5
Exactly. If the WWE wanted to push the Justin Gabriels and Yoshi Tatsus of the world, then they would have been consistently involved in the IC/US/Tag title scenes. They aren't pushed because the WWE doesn't want to push them, not because of a lack of space in the midcard. But even if Justin Gabriel and Yoshi Tatsu were getting regular tv time, they aren't on the same level as Big E Langston, and they surely aren't on the same level as Dean Ambrose, who is pretty much a semi-main event level talent. That's why the U.S. Belt is "stuck". Ambrose has been pushed too hard. The people who "should" be fighting for the title aren't credible enough to wrestle him. The people who ARE credible enough to wrestle him are "too good" for the U.S. Title. That's the same reason Cesaro ended up being left off of WM29. While it's true you can't easily get guys to Ambrose's level, he's not going to be the champion forever. They'll figure out a way to get the belt off him and lower card guys will be wrestling for it sooner rather than later. As for Langston, he's the perfect example of what I was talking about. Who wasn't at his level just a few months ago?
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Post by Thunderbolt on Dec 21, 2013 5:53:31 GMT -5
I really like the idea of a TV Title. Unify the US and IC belts, and let the really low card guys go for the TV title. And if they ever miss a TV week for whatever reason(even a shoot reason, like a minor injury of missed plane flight) where they can't defend it, they get stripped of the title.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 21, 2013 10:27:21 GMT -5
they can't even use the 2 they have properly. I think if not for the fact that Dean Ambrose still wears it, they'd have forgotten the US title even exists.
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Post by schma on Dec 21, 2013 17:14:36 GMT -5
The only title I miss is the cruiserweight title and that's probably more from the WCW cruiserweight division. I really don't think the WWE would utilize a new crusierweight championship properly so I'm firmly in the camp of unite the us/ic and don't bring any new belts in. If they were willing to push the Divas properly I could understand Diva tag titles but I don't see that happening.
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