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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2013 4:51:17 GMT -5
Movies have. Video Games is beginning to be accepted as respect art? Well what about pornography? I've seen pornography parodies that sharply satirizes the subject parodying, the tropes associated with the genre, and sharp social commentary. I've seen f***ing that looked like an art film. I've seen visceral images of super models doing things that should not be possible especially with their size creating an uneasy feeling of disgust, horror, and arousal. What other artistic medium does this?
You can YouTube Lemon Stealing Whore and you'll see what I mean. (language and dress might be in appropriate plus very mature artistic subject matter)
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 25, 2013 5:12:52 GMT -5
Nah.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2013 5:41:22 GMT -5
It will once I finish my masterpiece, Vaginas Playing Poker.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Dec 25, 2013 6:02:39 GMT -5
Thought it already was
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Post by Welfare Willis on Dec 25, 2013 7:12:52 GMT -5
It will once I finish my masterpiece, Vaginas Playing Poker. I don't know if it'll compared to my Mona Lisa bent over and taking a dp. or the persistence of memory of two girls going at it. or American Gothic hot anal action. or Girl with a pearl necklace. or Scream after seeing what the hell goatse is.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2013 7:54:20 GMT -5
Never. Porn will always be the dirty back alley thing. Simply because that's what we want it to be.
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Post by xCompackx on Dec 25, 2013 9:05:50 GMT -5
It's probably as accepted as it's going to be.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 25, 2013 9:08:09 GMT -5
Unless Western attitudes about sex and nudity change, no.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Dec 25, 2013 9:55:31 GMT -5
As an artist myself in some right (drawing, painting, and etc.) I say no based off of the potential of this conversation.
Her: Do you have and hobbies or talents?
Me: I can draw, paint, and I'm learning how to play some instruments.
Her: oh that's cool. I'm an artist/actress too. I've won a couple awards
Me: That's cool. What do you do?
Her: Fetish films, bondage stuff. You know like foot fetish/domination. But I won awards for a gangbang I starred in.
Me: Of course
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 25, 2013 10:47:01 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure there were people out there that enjoyed Michelangelo's David for....initially unintended reasons. Other than that, no.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 25, 2013 11:20:22 GMT -5
considering how goofy and incongruous un-simulated sex always seems in the films reviewed on Brows Held High, I say probably not. and that's legitimate attempts at being artistic. most of the time.
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Post by Demented on Dec 25, 2013 11:39:13 GMT -5
Art + Porn = Hentai.
Thank you, Japan!
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Dec 25, 2013 12:03:06 GMT -5
No.
Written erotica has traditional been considered art and always will--because it's roots are in telling compelling stories with the erotic elements flowing seamlessly, logically into the story. It's always been more acceptable than pornography.
Pornography's goal is not to be art--it's to be arousing. That's it. If they throw too much art, serious plot, and the like in, then it's not really pornography anymore.
If something is well put together enough to be art, then they wouldn't call it pornography anymore. It's kind of an arbitrary distinction, really. Pornography is a terms used for something that has a really specific purpose.
All of this is in theory, anyways
I've never watched a pornographic film. I was under the impression that they were just were just a series of sex scenes stitched together by a bare bones plot that only exists so that the transitions from sex scene to sex scene aren't jarring. I'm sure some have a more artistic bend, but that's probably still the gist of it, right?
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Post by Glitch on Dec 25, 2013 13:52:16 GMT -5
No. Written erotica has traditional been considered art and always will--because it's roots are in telling compelling stories with the erotic elements flowing seamlessly, logically into the story. It's always been more acceptable than pornography. Pornography's goal is not to be art--it's to be arousing. That's it. If they throw too much art, serious plot, and the like in, then it's not really pornography anymore. If something is well put together enough to be art, then they wouldn't call it pornography anymore. It's kind of an arbitrary distinction, really. Pornography is a terms used for something that has a really specific purpose. All of this is in theory, anyways I've never watched a pornographic film. I was under the impression that they were just were just a series of sex scenes stitched together by a bare bones plot that only exists so that the transitions from sex scene to sex scene aren't jarring. I'm sure some have a more artistic bend, but that's probably still the gist of it, right? I was about to write this. Erotica the term generally used for artsy stuff. It used to all be called pornography, and eventually down the line that word just meant wank material. sometimes there's a grey area. I believe once we got get an erotic film that kicks ass, it may change things(instead of crap like Showgirls).
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Dec 25, 2013 14:14:16 GMT -5
I guess you still have the porn with stories and parody porn, but most porn is not really art in my view. It is meant to bring sexual excitement to its viewers. We are far removed from the days when porn was shot on film and featured higher production standards. I wouldn't even call the films of the heyday of porn to be cinematic art. These are more like masterpieces of the porn genre.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Dec 25, 2013 14:21:30 GMT -5
No, and you can stop trying, Lars von Trier.
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Post by KobashiChop on Dec 25, 2013 17:10:37 GMT -5
No, and I dont want it to be.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Dec 25, 2013 19:50:02 GMT -5
I dunno, I've seem some artsy, pretentious porn in my time.
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Post by ICBM on Dec 25, 2013 20:26:50 GMT -5
No, and I dont want it to be. Me either. That would mean a large shift in morale fabric of the world. Now before you jump my shit hear me out. I do believe the united states is media-wise repressed sexually. Nudity as in not just side boob and butt cheek, but nudity, on cable tv is not far off. But we can control access to it as parents. It isn't everywhere but what we have of it is leaps and bounds ahead of where we were 20 yrs ago. But we don't need acceptance toward money shots as we do with a mildly racy sex scene in a PG13 Movie. What that would mean to have hardcore scenes be as acceptable as a mildly racy sex scene (most have artistic flare that's why I use that example), is that as a society we drop most inhibitions as pertains to what access we give for young people to graphic content. That means we don't care as much to educate them slowly enough for better understanding of sex. To me that is too much too soon. Look I got ahold of porn when I was way too young and looking back, it legit gave me unreal expectations and ideas about sex. I wanted to do all these things but didn't understand why I would do them or that not every girl wanted her hair pulled or to be spanked. It took my own experiences to educate me. I probably hurt some girls feelings or freaked them out. Now later when I began to understand a bit better, some of those things I had seen and wanted to do were ok, but honestly I could have seen them at 23 instead of 13 and used them when understood. No. I don't want porn to be anymore mainstream than it is. The starlets and performers work hard at what they do and deserve credit for that. But the AVN awards belong on Showtime and vivid radio not NBC.
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Post by Alexander The So-so on Dec 25, 2013 21:49:28 GMT -5
Alan Moore tried this when he wrote "Lost Girls." You can...judge for yourself.
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