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Post by tekkenguy on Dec 25, 2013 23:50:25 GMT -5
What was the biggest flop of 2013 for WWE?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2013 23:52:12 GMT -5
I've gotta say Ryback just by nature of how I really cannot see a way short of taking him off TV for months and completely retooling him that his career can recover, though Sandow's probably up there. Though the Big Show stupidity should probably get the Gooker, if only for how it just went for months and months with tons of build-up just to pay off in him losing to Orton in like ten minutes then the issue being dropped.
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Post by kidglov3s on Dec 26, 2013 0:05:46 GMT -5
Bryan vs The Authority feud, because there's no option for just The Authority.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 26, 2013 0:38:14 GMT -5
Idk if I can call most of these flops. To me a flop would be something that didn't get over no matter how hard WWE tried. All of these seem to be just bad booking.
Alberto's face run and Dolph's Title reign are kind of linked together. Del Rio was hella over as a face. What hurt Del Rio was Dolph's concussion. Getting hurt made Ziggler a sympathetic figure by default, so the fans naturally ended up rooting for the guy coming back from an injury. Del Rio was just collateral damage.
I can't even call Main Eventer Jack Swagger a flop because you can't seriously consider a match for the B-Title with 4-5 different storylines overshadowing it as a "main event".
Curtis Axel "flopped" because WWE were never fully behind him. They gave him increased TV Time and interaction with top guys but he never got the credibility boost to go with it.
I'm not even sure if FAndango was meant to go anywhere else after the Jericho feud. Part of me thinks that even if Fandango didn't get hurt, he still wouldn't have become Intercontinental Champion. I think Axel would've been plugged into the IC Title match regardless. It seemed like WWE wanted Axel to have the "moment" of winning "his dad's" belt on Father's Day. Axel probably would've won, whether Fandango was there or not, because WWE were hell bent on making Axel out to be the incompetent loser who flukes out wins (and most likely WWE would've reasoned that Fandango didn't "need" the title because they thought his gimmick could keep him afloat).
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Post by klapaucius on Dec 26, 2013 0:49:37 GMT -5
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 26, 2013 0:52:33 GMT -5
Fandango doesn't really feel like it should be on the list.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 26, 2013 0:53:25 GMT -5
Seeing main eventer Jack Swagger topping the poll makes me feel like I fell into a timewarp back to 2010.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2013 0:55:50 GMT -5
Seeing main eventer Jack Swagger topping the poll makes me feel like I fell into a timewarp back to 2010. I'm wondering why on earth anyone, much less the majority, is voting for that. "Main eventer" was like halfway down the card and lasted for all of like two months. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 26, 2013 0:55:56 GMT -5
Fandango doesn't really feel like it should be on the list. Yeah. I think some people made the mistaken assumption that Fandango would be hotshotted to the moon, and labeled him a flop because that didn't come to pass. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 26, 2013 0:57:48 GMT -5
Seeing main eventer Jack Swagger topping the poll makes me feel like I fell into a timewarp back to 2010. I'm wondering why on earth anyone, much less the majority, is voting for that. "Main eventer" was like halfway down the card and lasted for all of like two months. That, and not even getting a televised entrance at Wrestlemania. |
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Post by spyda on Dec 26, 2013 0:58:39 GMT -5
Bo Dallas after the Royal Rumble
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Post by schma on Dec 26, 2013 1:01:23 GMT -5
I know Jericho seems to be really into putting the younger guys over but I figured when Fandango showed up a few months before Wrestlemania, then got to wrestle there and went over Jericho that he was going to be getting a massive push.
Ryback's situation surprised me, for a while I thought they'd actually put the belt on him, short term maybe but long enough to say he was a champion.
The Big Show thing was ridiculous. The guy owns his own tour bus and has been a major talent (at various levels) for almost 20 years. HHH saying he's broke just caused me to roll my eyes.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 26, 2013 1:03:05 GMT -5
Bo Dallas after the Royal Rumble Was Bo Dallas really getting a push? To me it seemed like they just wanted to get an NXT guy into the Rumble and give him a moment. I don't think Bo was actually going to win the IC belt or go to WrestleMania or anything. |
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Post by tekkenguy on Dec 26, 2013 1:03:27 GMT -5
Fandango doesn't really feel like it should be on the list. I'm talking about how WWE didn't capitalize on the mainstream attention after his theme song went viral. They should've turned Fandango face. at the minimum. Let me compare this situation to another mid-card wrestler who got a lot of mainstream attention: Darren Young. They turned him & Titus face shortly after he came out. |
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Post by Some Guy on Dec 26, 2013 1:03:47 GMT -5
Stone Cold Big Show, or The Authority. Whichever suits you best.
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Post by schma on Dec 26, 2013 1:05:25 GMT -5
Also, this thing doesn't actually allow me to vote, is my rank too low?
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Post by Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan on Dec 26, 2013 1:07:07 GMT -5
Pretty much everything that's happened since Randy Orton cashed in at Summerslam.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 26, 2013 1:08:06 GMT -5
Fandango doesn't really feel like it should be on the list. I'm talking about how WWE didn't capitalize on the mainstream attention after his theme song went viral. They should've turned Fandango face. at the minimum. Let me compare this situation to another mid-card wrestler who got a lot of mainstream attention: Darren Young. They turned him & Titus face shortly after he came out. They did try to capitalize, and people just complained that WWE was "running Fandango-ing into the ground". |
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Post by Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks on Dec 26, 2013 1:12:08 GMT -5
I'll be the Axel Advocate again and say he probably shouldn't be on the list, as I still believe that the "monster hype followed by cheap wins" thing was part of an intentional effort to make him into a weaselly old-school heel. With the roster as stacked as it has been, I doubt there was any plan to rocket him to top tier status within the year.
I think some folks on various forums/websites see him as a "flop" because they tend to associate Heyman with "cool heels" or pseudo-face-heels like Punk, Lesnar or pretty much anyone from original ECW, but the build for Axel seemed much more of a throwback to the days of Paul E. Dangerously.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 26, 2013 1:17:31 GMT -5
I'm talking about how WWE didn't capitalize on the mainstream attention after his theme song went viral. They should've turned Fandango face. at the minimum. Let me compare this situation to another mid-card wrestler who got a lot of mainstream attention: Darren Young. They turned him & Titus face shortly after he came out. They did try to capitalize, and people just complained that WWE was "running Fandango-ing into the ground". That, and when they were probably going to give him the IC title, he got hurt, which is not really anyone's fault, but Curtis Axel got the title probably due to that. |
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