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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 29, 2013 2:09:51 GMT -5
www.wwe.com/videos/wwe-superstars-divas-thank-the-us-military-tribute-to-the-troops-2013-26172880First it was Sheamus, then it was AJ Lee, then it was Big Show... and now THIS. This is a bloody outrage, it is. Look at those moochers doing HIS YES! chants to get cheap pops from American troops. Even Cole and JBL are doing it! Is there no end in sight for this travesty? ... Seriously, though. It was an awesome visual and good for Bryan to be put in focus like that. And thanks to three separate wins being counted on this show for him (somehow), Bryan actually now has the most televised wins for the year with one TV show (RAW on Monday) to go. Feel free to make this a catch-all Tribute To The Troops discussion too, since there wasn't one while the show was on. The Shield had a pretty badass entrance from a tank for one of the WWE.com matches.
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Post by Kayfabe FAN don't want none on Dec 29, 2013 2:17:45 GMT -5
Alicia has the cutest yeses.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2013 10:26:42 GMT -5
Who's that hiding under the ring at around 1:38?
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Post by Totorob101 on Dec 29, 2013 10:27:43 GMT -5
Who's that hiding under the ring at around 1:38? Sandow i think.
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Post by Stu on Dec 29, 2013 10:44:54 GMT -5
Was kinda cool seeing Cena, Bryan and Punk all come out together. Was also funny seeing Cena notice Sandow before moving along.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Dec 29, 2013 10:46:22 GMT -5
Was kinda cool seeing Cena, Bryan and Punk all come out together. Was also funny seeing Cena notice Sandow before moving along. Essentially, three of my top favorites (yes, even Cena) as fan-favorites all entering together. I smiled.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2013 11:01:50 GMT -5
The best YES's of all time are still the ones where Bryan said to AJ "Do that thing I like" and she walked around him saying YES while he smugly looked off into the distance while standing still.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 29, 2013 13:41:10 GMT -5
I still can't wrap my head around the fact that this company which printed a shirt, coffe mug, mousepad, car decal and wallpaper pattern everytime Rock, Austin, DX or Mankind said something that got a pop hasn't tried cashing in on Daniel Bryan in some fashion. I mean they obviously see the chant is over like rover.
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Post by Boo! on Dec 29, 2013 14:57:13 GMT -5
I still can't wrap my head around the fact that this company which printed a shirt, coffe mug, mousepad, car decal and wallpaper pattern everytime Rock, Austin, DX or Mankind said something that got a pop hasn't tried cashing in on Daniel Bryan in some fashion. I mean they obviously see the chant is over like rover. Yeah but we've no idea how over he really is outside the chant. To be honest you'd assume they do market research and know these things. We shouldn't assume the arena chants mean necessarily anything more than that. They've had him in main events for PPVs and TV shows and the numbers thus far have been disappointing. I wonder what it'll take to convince people maybe he isn't as over as the chant suggests. In order to invest all the time and effort in marketing a character you have to make sure he's marketable and you' have to presume that they have a better idea than we do from feedback data collected from focus groups and minute by minute ratings and all the rest of it.
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Post by theryno665 on Dec 29, 2013 15:01:50 GMT -5
R-Truth ain't havin' none of that.
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Post by The Masked Heel WAS WRONG on Dec 29, 2013 15:31:42 GMT -5
Look at the technique Jinder Mahal had when he came out Yesing.
I think it's clear as day, Bryan stole it from Jinder.
Bryan is clearly in violation of Hindering Jinder.
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Post by The Masked Heel WAS WRONG on Dec 29, 2013 15:32:31 GMT -5
R-Truth ain't havin' none of that. Truth remembered what Bryan did to Little Jimmy. Little Jimmy was never the same.
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Post by Bootista on Dec 29, 2013 15:33:19 GMT -5
I still can't wrap my head around the fact that this company which printed a shirt, coffe mug, mousepad, car decal and wallpaper pattern everytime Rock, Austin, DX or Mankind said something that got a pop hasn't tried cashing in on Daniel Bryan in some fashion. I mean they obviously see the chant is over like rover. Yeah but we've no idea how over he really is outside the chant. To be honest you'd assume they do market research and know these things. We shouldn't assume the arena chants mean necessarily anything more than that. They've had him in main events for PPVs and TV shows and the numbers thus far have been disappointing. I wonder what it'll take to convince people maybe he isn't as over as the chant suggests. In order to invest all the time and effort in marketing a character you have to make sure he's marketable and you' have to presume that they have a better idea than we do from feedback data collected from focus groups and minute by minute ratings and all the rest of it. You can dislike Bryan all you want but to say he is not that over is ridiculous and blind dislike.
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Post by angryfan on Dec 29, 2013 15:54:54 GMT -5
I still can't wrap my head around the fact that this company which printed a shirt, coffe mug, mousepad, car decal and wallpaper pattern everytime Rock, Austin, DX or Mankind said something that got a pop hasn't tried cashing in on Daniel Bryan in some fashion. I mean they obviously see the chant is over like rover. Yeah but we've no idea how over he really is outside the chant. To be honest you'd assume they do market research and know these things. We shouldn't assume the arena chants mean necessarily anything more than that. They've had him in main events for PPVs and TV shows and the numbers thus far have been disappointing. I wonder what it'll take to convince people maybe he isn't as over as the chant suggests. In order to invest all the time and effort in marketing a character you have to make sure he's marketable and you' have to presume that they have a better idea than we do from feedback data collected from focus groups and minute by minute ratings and all the rest of it. Problem is, your argument goes both ways. He's not as over as the chant makes it seem? Or he's over, it's not just the chant. What would it take for you to see the latter? I have no desire to be combative, it's just the mirror to the question you asked. If he's not over, and the chant is just popular, then things like merchandise sales will drop and you will see less of the chant outside of "smark towns". If, however, he is really over, you'll see more Yes shirts, you'll still see the chants, and you'll see it in smaller areas that aren't normally hotbeds for smarks. The problem is, since WWE rarely puts out merch sales numbers, what would convince you that he is over rather than it must being the chant? I'm genuinely curious.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 29, 2013 16:10:45 GMT -5
Yeah but we've no idea how over he really is outside the chant. To be honest you'd assume they do market research and know these things. We shouldn't assume the arena chants mean necessarily anything more than that. They've had him in main events for PPVs and TV shows and the numbers thus far have been disappointing. I wonder what it'll take to convince people maybe he isn't as over as the chant suggests. In order to invest all the time and effort in marketing a character you have to make sure he's marketable and you' have to presume that they have a better idea than we do from feedback data collected from focus groups and minute by minute ratings and all the rest of it. Problem is, your argument goes both ways. He's not as over as the chant makes it seem? Or he's over, it's not just the chant. What would it take for you to see the latter? I have no desire to be combative, it's just the mirror to the question you asked. If he's not over, and the chant is just popular, then things like merchandise sales will drop and you will see less of the chant outside of "smark towns". If, however, he is really over, you'll see more Yes shirts, you'll still see the chants, and you'll see it in smaller areas that aren't normally hotbeds for smarks. The problem is, since WWE rarely puts out merch sales numbers, what would convince you that he is over rather than it must being the chant? I'm genuinely curious. It's all on the higher ups at this point. He's done everything to get himself over and make himself marketable, surely those people that do that market research can find a way to parlay that into cash, that's their freaking job. His job is to get over with the crowd. What's it going to take to make people like you believe that. I remember hearing a story that Bryan Danielson bet another wrestler he could get the RoH crowd, who usually just chanted this is awesome and other simple chants, to chant "You're going to get your F***ing head kicked in. It became a common chant after that for him. The guy has sway over crowds. I know it's hard for people raised on the belief that unless you're tanned to leather and roided to the nips that people can't connect to you, but for some reason this guy does. The thing is there is Bryan merchandise so it's not like they don't think he's worth printing merch. It's just that most of it is terrible and over half of it features a goat, which is what the announcers have tried rather unsuccessfully to foist on the audience as what they should envision Bryan as the embodiment of.
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 29, 2013 16:27:48 GMT -5
Yeah but we've no idea how over he really is outside the chant. To be honest you'd assume they do market research and know these things. We shouldn't assume the arena chants mean necessarily anything more than that. They've had him in main events for PPVs and TV shows and the numbers thus far have been disappointing. I wonder what it'll take to convince people maybe he isn't as over as the chant suggests. In order to invest all the time and effort in marketing a character you have to make sure he's marketable and you' have to presume that they have a better idea than we do from feedback data collected from focus groups and minute by minute ratings and all the rest of it. Problem is, your argument goes both ways. He's not as over as the chant makes it seem? Or he's over, it's not just the chant. What would it take for you to see the latter? I have no desire to be combative, it's just the mirror to the question you asked. If he's not over, and the chant is just popular, then things like merchandise sales will drop and you will see less of the chant outside of "smark towns". If, however, he is really over, you'll see more Yes shirts, you'll still see the chants, and you'll see it in smaller areas that aren't normally hotbeds for smarks. The problem is, since WWE rarely puts out merch sales numbers, what would convince you that he is over rather than it must being the chant? I'm genuinely curious. Plus, in addition to that- WWE "does" probably have better data than the fans would have- but it's cancelled out by the fact that we know, over years of proof, that WWE is no better than the fans with the data that they do have- instead choosing to read the data in whatever way they can- including insane troll logic and outright fabrication- that will give them the conclusion they already reached. Only data that becomes such an anomaly that it's impossible to ignore (and not even "YES!" chants or big Bryan merch sales when I say "anomaly", but "Zack Ryder's one of the ten biggest merch sellers in WWE despite never getting on Raw or Smackdown"-level anomalies) will make their way into the data.
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Post by Doctor Of Style on Dec 29, 2013 16:28:41 GMT -5
I still can't wrap my head around the fact that this company which printed a shirt, coffe mug, mousepad, car decal and wallpaper pattern everytime Rock, Austin, DX or Mankind said something that got a pop hasn't tried cashing in on Daniel Bryan in some fashion. I mean they obviously see the chant is over like rover. Yeah but we've no idea how over he really is outside the chant. To be honest you'd assume they do market research and know these things. We shouldn't assume the arena chants mean necessarily anything more than that. They've had him in main events for PPVs and TV shows and the numbers thus far have been disappointing. I wonder what it'll take to convince people maybe he isn't as over as the chant suggests. In order to invest all the time and effort in marketing a character you have to make sure he's marketable and you' have to presume that they have a better idea than we do from feedback data collected from focus groups and minute by minute ratings and all the rest of it. He's over, but is he marketable? When they cut to the audience chanting yes, I see a bunch of people wearing Cena and Punk shirts, with a few of Bryan's mixed in. I don't think they've done him any favors with his merchandise so far, but it's probably harder to sell stuff for someone who who looks like a tiny hobo.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 29, 2013 16:54:35 GMT -5
Yeah but we've no idea how over he really is outside the chant. To be honest you'd assume they do market research and know these things. We shouldn't assume the arena chants mean necessarily anything more than that. They've had him in main events for PPVs and TV shows and the numbers thus far have been disappointing. I wonder what it'll take to convince people maybe he isn't as over as the chant suggests. In order to invest all the time and effort in marketing a character you have to make sure he's marketable and you' have to presume that they have a better idea than we do from feedback data collected from focus groups and minute by minute ratings and all the rest of it. He's over, but is he marketable? When they cut to the audience chanting yes, I see a bunch of people wearing Cena and Punk shirts, with a few of Bryan's mixed in. I don't think they've done him any favors with his merchandise so far, but it's probably harder to sell stuff for someone who who looks like a tiny hobo. Well also I don't want to wear a shirt with a goat or a beard on it. It looks like a bad school mascot or a hillbilly harritage parade souvenir. shop.wwe.com/Daniel-Bryan/superstar-current-danielbryan,default,sc.html#http://shop.wwe.com/Daniel-Bryan/superstar-current-danielbryan,default,sc.html?sz=38 Look at those. They are terrible. It looks like they asked Lawler to draw a beard while he was taking a dump and he came back with that 5 minutes later. While douchey looking you're not going to stick out with Orton gear. shop.wwe.com/Randy-Orton/superstar-current-randyorton,default,sc.html#http://shop.wwe.com/Randy-Orton/superstar-current-randyorton,default,sc.html?sz=40 And Punk and Cena's are actually really well done.
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 29, 2013 17:55:29 GMT -5
who is this Enter Rooster you speak of?
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Dec 29, 2013 18:17:09 GMT -5
I still can't wrap my head around the fact that this company which printed a shirt, coffe mug, mousepad, car decal and wallpaper pattern everytime Rock, Austin, DX or Mankind said something that got a pop hasn't tried cashing in on Daniel Bryan in some fashion. I mean they obviously see the chant is over like rover. They raced out YES! t-shirts within days of the initial post-Wrestlemania explosion of chants.
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