Edge on Talk Is Jericho

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WWE Hall of Famer Edge returned to Chris Jericho's "Talk Is Jericho" podcast this week for the second part of their interview. During the show, the two revealed some interesting news about the year John Cena squashed Nexus at SummerSlam. The original plans called for the match to come down to Edge and Jericho vs. Nexus, however, John Cena squashed the idea and decided to he would be the last man standing, taking out both Wade Barrett and Justin Gabriel. Cena would later regret the decision.

Chris Jericho: "It was Team WWE vs. Team Nexus, and the finish boiled down to [Edge] and [Jericho] in there, but it was Cena against a couple of them. John wanted to do things a certain way and we told him 'you're wrong'. He did it anyways, and it sucked. And then after he came over to us and said 'I should have listened to you, but I wasn't seeing it that way.'"

Edge: "I remember. I was like, fine I'm out of the match by that point."

Chris Jericho: "He wanted to get DDT'd on the floor by Barrett, then kick out and beat them both. And you and I were like, that's the dumbest thing. That's just throwing it away for no reason."

Edge: "They should have gone over because they were so hot."

Chris Jericho: "We were fighting for Barrett to go over. And where's Wade Barrett now?"

Edge also spoke out about why he was successful the first time he won the WWE Championship from John Cena, and how Vince McMahon played a big role in that success.

"I had Vince on my side. Vince was the only guy who believed I could break through … The week before New Year's Revolution I said 'Vince I got an idea. I'm a heel. I'm probably the most despised guy in the company. If I cash this thing in after I've held it for ten months, in a straight-up match, that's really stupid on my part, as a character. I can cash it in whenever. Why wouldn't I do it after the Elimination Chamber?" … "I get there and Vince says, 'prove me right.' You can see when I hand that briefcase over to him, he says 'prove me right'. They were only gonna give me three weeks. But in those three weeks I did everything I could to make them change their mind. 25 million hits on WWE.com the night I won the title. Big ratings."

[MGH]

That is really interesting. Edge and Jericho were right. Nexus losing that made no sense what so ever.

[Famous Rocking Chimes]

Dec 29, 2013 16:14:03 GMT -5 MGH said:

That is really interesting. Edge and Jericho were right. Nexus losing that made no sense what so ever.

I agree, but Nexus losing could've been salvaged if 1) The DDT spot on the concrete hadn't happened and 2) Cena pinned Barrett with a flash roll up. Maybe have Nexus take out Cena afterwards and have him stay on the sidelines for a while.

[KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!!]

Wow! Usually everything you hear about Cena is what a company guy he is and that he'll do whatever creative tells him to. Yet, this story features Cena actively fighting for a storyline that puts him over while making newer talent look weak. I'm curious to hear what else Cena has done in this vein. In particular to see how much he was just doing because he was a company guy and how much he came up with himself to make himself look good.

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Dec 29, 2013 16:30:55 GMT -5 KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! said:

Wow! Usually everything you hear about Cena is what a company guy he is and that he'll do whatever creative tells him to. Yet, this story features Cena actively fighting for a storyline that puts him over while making newer talent look weak. I'm curious to hear what else Cena has done in this vein. In particular to see how much he was just doing because he was a company guy and how much he came up with himself to make himself look good.

I'd imagine he's done a lot more things to benefit himself. Cena's not exactly the doll people think he is.

[mizerable]

Dec 29, 2013 16:30:55 GMT -5 KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! said:

Wow! Usually everything you hear about Cena is what a company guy he is and that he'll do whatever creative tells him to. Yet, this story features Cena actively fighting for a storyline that puts him over while making newer talent look weak. I'm curious to hear what else Cena has done in this vein. In particular to see how much he was just doing because he was a company guy and how much he came up with himself to make himself look good.

At least he owned up to it afterward. I doubt someone like Cena would put forth that idea without the mentality that he was going to do a better finish than what was proposed, instead of making it just about him winning and burying guys.

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Eh, if it was his idea to have him join the Nexus and then be fired only to show up every week and beat them up along with Ryback and Tarver being injured then he can be blamed for Nexus and Barrett falling apart

Losing to WWE at Summerslam was stupid yeah but I don't think it was the finishing blow and could have been salvaged

[Kayfabe FAN don't want none]

[Dave the Dave]

Where's Wade? Where's Gabriel?

Ryback and Bryan turned out best. They're lucky they got out of Nexus

[héad.casé]

Even if the original plan for that match had gone ahead and Wade and Gabriel did go over Edge and Jericho in the end, as much as I hate to say this as a fan of both, I feel like Wade and Gabriel would still have ended up in the positions they are now due to shitty booking and Jericho and Edge putting them over would have been wasted.

[Rican]

That's interesting. I wonder if as the years pass we'll hear more and more about Cena doing stuff like this.

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Cena should of been the last guy standing or the last guy eliminated regardless. Him or the returning Daniel Bryan but DB needed to feud with The Miz and win the US Championship more.

[1 Free Moon-Down with Burger]

Dec 29, 2013 17:51:18 GMT -5 @supersweetbotch said:

Cena should of been the last guy standing or the last guy eliminated regardless. Him or the returning Daniel Bryan but DB needed to feud with The Miz and win the US Championship more.

Yeah. It would've been weird if it came down to Edge and Jericho and not the two guys that had the biggest issues with The Nexus.

I don't think the Summerslam loss killed Wade as much as his absolutely shitty matches did.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

Dec 29, 2013 16:34:36 GMT -5 ManInGauze said:

Dec 29, 2013 16:30:55 GMT -5 KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! said:

Wow! Usually everything you hear about Cena is what a company guy he is and that he'll do whatever creative tells him to. Yet, this story features Cena actively fighting for a storyline that puts him over while making newer talent look weak. I'm curious to hear what else Cena has done in this vein. In particular to see how much he was just doing because he was a company guy and how much he came up with himself to make himself look good.

I'd imagine he's done a lot more things to benefit himself. Cena's not exactly the doll people think he is.

Well...yeah. That's how it works in wrestling. Closed mouths don't get fed. Every top star in this business has had to do some politicking. Some more than others but selfishness is needed. I seriously doubt Cena is this evil mastermind that does all he can to hold down young talent while making sure that he's treated the best. He plays the game like everybody that came before him or that will come after him.

This is interesting though. I have to wonder why the original plan called for Edge & Jericho to be the sole survivors? That really wouldn't have made much sense unless one of them were gonna turn and join the Nexus which would have been dumb as hell.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

Also, the "look at where Barrett is now" comment is bullshit too. The angle could have been salvaged after Summerslam if they just had Barrett win the title at Survivor Series. THAT was the death blow for the Nexus.

[1 Free Moon-Down with Burger]

Dec 29, 2013 18:03:17 GMT -5 Magic knows Black Lives Matter said:

Also, the "look at where Barrett is now" comment is bullshit too. The angle could have been salvaged after Summerslam if they just had Barrett win the title at Survivor Series. THAT was the death blow for the Nexus.

They really booked themselves into a corner. They had positioned Miz to be a big deal at the same time Nexus caught on.

[KobashiChop]

Its obviously not something I can prove, but i think there is a LOT of image manipulation when it comes to the WWEs presentation of Cena. I dont think he is some evil genius, but i think they try very hard to maintain a certain personality.

[Confused Mark Wahlberg]

MAH SPOT

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

Dec 29, 2013 18:47:59 GMT -5 KobashiChop said:

Its obviously not something I can prove, but i think there is a LOT of image manipulation when it comes to the WWEs presentation of Cena. I dont think he is some evil genius, but i think they try very hard to maintain a certain personality.

No doubt but they do that with every top guy, haha. Again, it's just the nature of the beast. They're gonna make their golden boys look like saints even if that's not the case.

[BigWill]

Dec 29, 2013 18:07:03 GMT -5 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger said:

Dec 29, 2013 18:03:17 GMT -5 Magic knows Black Lives Matter said:

Also, the "look at where Barrett is now" comment is bullshit too. The angle could have been salvaged after Summerslam if they just had Barrett win the title at Survivor Series. THAT was the death blow for the Nexus.

They really booked themselves into a corner. They had positioned Miz to be a big deal at the same time Nexus caught on.

Miz had plenty of time left to cash in though. They could have easily saved his big push until after WrestleMania, and let the Nexus angle last until then.