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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Dec 30, 2013 22:29:24 GMT -5
I'm glad I don't live in your f***ing physco country where buying a weapon seems like a reasonable choice. Yikes. No need for the cultural xenophobia.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Dec 30, 2013 22:37:45 GMT -5
Here's what you should do. Go to a local Youth Club (They're called PCYC's in Australia) and take up a 3 dollar boxing class. Take enough lessons to learn how to throw a punch, some combinations and how to block. Odds are if you get mugged and you're an in shape dude who immediately goes to a fight stance the guy is leaving. As someone who has been violently accosted (without provocation) multiple times in public by random, crazy strangers, I hate to say it, but self-defense training is largely theoretical (rather than practical) when someone assaults you for no reason, catching you completely off-guard. What I mean by that is that the attacker gets a psychological edge over you which makes it very difficult to defend yourself or even feel like a competent defender, even if you're larger/in better shape than they are and have had martial arts training. Unless you are constantly in the mentality that you must defend yourself at ANY moment, that psychological complication makes traditional self-defense difficult for practical use.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Dec 30, 2013 22:48:36 GMT -5
Here's what you should do. Go to a local Youth Club (They're called PCYC's in Australia) and take up a 3 dollar boxing class. Take enough lessons to learn how to throw a punch, some combinations and how to block. Odds are if you get mugged and you're an in shape dude who immediately goes to a fight stance the guy is leaving. As someone who has been violently accosted (without provocation) multiple times in public by random, crazy strangers, I hate to say it, but self-defense training is largely theoretical (rather than practical) when someone assaults you for no reason, catching you completely off-guard. What I mean by that is that the attacker gets a psychological edge over you which makes it very difficult to defend yourself or even feel like a competent defender, even if you're larger/in better shape than they are and have had martial arts training. Unless you are constantly in the mentality that you must defend yourself at ANY moment, that psychological complication makes traditional self-defense difficult for practical use. This is an important point. In several situations, self-defense training won't necessarily do much good. That doesn't mean somebody shouldn't be prepared to defend themselves, it just means that it simply might not do much good. You really don't know how you'll react to a situation until it happens. Self-defense training has saved lives and can be a tool that does a lot of good. Some programs have given people the mistaken impression that they're invincible, though.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Dec 30, 2013 22:55:43 GMT -5
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 30, 2013 23:16:40 GMT -5
I'm glad I don't live in your f***ing physco country where buying a weapon seems like a reasonable choice. Yikes. No need for the cultural xenophobia. As opposed to advice on how to legally stab someone?
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Post by Mac on Dec 30, 2013 23:26:45 GMT -5
I own a gun, I've also been trained in self defense classes since I was a young teenager. Never had to pull a gun on anyone and never plan on it, or hope too. I live in a safe area, a city of 60k+ but really safe by city standards. Having to fend off someone with brute force or deadly force isn't an ideal situation for anyone. Hell if someone asked for my wallet and pulled a knife, I'd give them my wallet, even if armed. If someone broke into my house where my family lives and I don't know what their intent is... well it may end badly for them. It never hurts to be prepared/
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Dec 30, 2013 23:38:51 GMT -5
Yikes. No need for the cultural xenophobia. As opposed to advice on how to legally stab someone? In my country you have the right to defend your life with force if necessary. This has saved countless lives, including the lives of people close to me. Being able to defend yourself and your property is a basic human right. The fact that you're allowed to own weaponry in order to make this easier is only logical. You clearly seem to disagree with this philosophy. That's fine. I get it. It doesn't make a whole country "f***ing psycho" I don't see how labeling a country in such an offensive manner really brings anything to the discussion. If you don't agree with something then you should explain why you don't agree with it. You shouldn't insult a whole country. It doesn't do any good.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Dec 31, 2013 1:50:13 GMT -5
"Anyone can use a weapon, but the ninja is a weapon."
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Post by SOR on Dec 31, 2013 4:01:03 GMT -5
As opposed to advice on how to legally stab someone? In my country you have the right to defend your life with force if necessary. This has saved countless lives, including the lives of people close to me. Being able to defend yourself and your property is a basic human right. The fact that you're allowed to own weaponry in order to make this easier is only logical. You clearly seem to disagree with this philosophy. That's fine. I get it. It doesn't make a whole country "f***ing psycho" I don't see how labeling a country in such an offensive manner really brings anything to the discussion. If you don't agree with something then you should explain why you don't agree with it. You shouldn't insult a whole country. It doesn't do any good. Although I don't agree with the hate on Britain you must admit that this is an odd post from OP. Point blank asking how he can get away with carrying a knife in public and not seeing the issue with it at all if he has to use it. This isn't a guy asking "How can I defend myself?" it's him asking "How can I get away with carrying a lethal weapon" so I understand Cole's outburst. Plus, From what I know of Britain (And I have a lot of family over there) it's generally quite peaceful and not as bad as some people say. Definitely not anything like the United States is when it comes to robberies, gun crimes etc.
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Dec 31, 2013 6:00:11 GMT -5
Before I go any further, and because most everyone didn't check... ratetankmark is from Newcastle. Yanno, in the U.K., funny what you can find when you click on someone's name, huh? Or... well everyone was a bit lazy, and our locations are no longer displayed in the 'new' site (god I feel old). An index of locations, and their relevant crime rates, aimed at Uni students.Here is a more general link, for the department responsible for statistics/census You may need to specify data a bit better yourself. But because a Canadian said something: Canadian crime rates are also dropping like rocks.Here is a chart from Wiki that covers the last century in terms of burglary rates, so 1900-2000(ish): Original source is the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics.Point of fact, according to USDOJ, NYC saw a drop of Homicides of 20% by end of 2012. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States. And here is some numbers from the FBI And USA Today's article about it, which isn't a sensationalized one. We (as in the U.S.) have seen a spike in the last two years in crime rates, BUT between 1996 to 2005 we saw a 17% overall drop, and even with two increases in the last two years the numbers are still near historic lows. Though bear in mind comparing data points gets tricky. Canada's definition of Violent Crime is different than the U.S.'s, for example, as they include all Assault type crimes, the U.S. does not (which is a logical weird point as the U.S. only allows for weapons related). My honest opinion? Anecdotal 'evidence' in regards to the crime in your area is not necessarily something to see to be relied on. If you feel you travel through dangerous areas, then the BEST thing you can do is be aware, take the earbuds out an pay more attention. And, as others have said, be willing to give up your money and electronics, or just run. Further, ratetankmark, as you are almost 18, so that generally puts you into your majority (in other words not a minor). So you can check the laws regarding this, and you can check for community outreach from your local police department, and see if there are courses they offer or recommend, or if there part of town that is recommended one does be more careful in, and then evaluate how much of your life necessitates you going there. But here is the most important thing, as you, the OP ask a question is silly. Dangerous. Or dangerously silly. Decisions made in fear are not good ones.They are illogical, reactionary, and stem from points that are illusive rather than real. You are seriously wagering escalating a situation because of uncertainty. And that is worrying. Just don't. Your Pumas, and your iPhone are not worth it. You draw that knife, and what do you do if the mugger doesn't run? Think in through now, you don't get that option in the thick of things.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Dec 31, 2013 9:00:56 GMT -5
One personal story to add: When I was very young, my parents and I went to go see a movie. We were running late afterwards, so we cut through a dark alley. A man appeared and pointed a gun at my father, demanding his wallet and my mother's pearls. My father attempted to talk the guy out of it, and both he and my mother were shot and killed. Since then, I have learned that criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot. The best way to fight them is to become a symbol that strikes fear into their hearts. Bruce, nobody cares that your parents are dead.
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