Bang Bang Bart
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Dec 31, 2013 10:45:38 GMT -5
Triple H almost never gets his as a heel. Very few times I can remember HHH paying for his misdeeds. I think Batista might be one the few elite members of the club that got even with HHH. I think one of the few people who ever made Stephanie pay for her actions was a face Mr. McMahon and maybe Trish or Lita...I don't know it's been so long ago. Do those promos that Jericho cut on her count as comeuppance?
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 31, 2013 10:48:23 GMT -5
As I've said, they are marks for their own characters. HHH always has to be the toughest guy, even in a suit, and Stephanie has to be the alpha female, no matter how illogical it may be to storytelling, or how detrimental it is to the wrestlers.
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Post by mrjl on Dec 31, 2013 10:48:26 GMT -5
I think at this point, the better question is: Why aren't they portraying HHH and Stephanie as outright heels anymore? At this point, they're basically just two well-meaning but out of touch rich people, as opposed to villains that are justifiably detestable. I think they're portraying them as two-faced, not out of touch. Their making matches people like while pushing people they don't is them sucking up to the fans the way Vicki and Maddox suck up to them. They're like Al Capone opening soup kitchens during the depression.
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Post by BigWill on Dec 31, 2013 10:50:36 GMT -5
Because the storyline's not over yet.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Dec 31, 2013 10:51:30 GMT -5
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Post by JTG Fan on Dec 31, 2013 11:48:58 GMT -5
As others have mentioned Triple H HAS gotten comeuppance since this angle began. Knocked out by The Big Show, Taken out by "The knee that beat Cena" and CM Punk stole off him during that scramble a few weeks ago. Triple H has not once come back to easily beat their asses since. He has also been shown to be quite the coward if he doesn't have hired guns to have his back. The exact opposite of being "The Ass Kicker". Steph got accidentally knocked down by Orton via Bryan (waitaminute!!!). Outside of the stereotypical insults thrown at women in WWE, that's as good as you're going to get outside of embarrassing her in some way or letting a Diva put paws on her. We can't forget about HBK (who literally kicked Bryan out of the main event scene) also getting comeuppance twice yo! The number of segments of HHH being so much smarter/cooler/funnier than everyone else far, far outweigh those comeuppance moments, and of those you listed on the KO punch was the only real comeuppance moment.
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Post by Chestnutrice on Dec 31, 2013 11:51:34 GMT -5
Because Shawn Michaels is there to always take the bullet for him.
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mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Dec 31, 2013 11:59:27 GMT -5
As others have mentioned Triple H HAS gotten comeuppance since this angle began. Knocked out by The Big Show, Taken out by "The knee that beat Cena" and CM Punk stole off him during that scramble a few weeks ago. Triple H has not once come back to easily beat their asses since. He has also been shown to be quite the coward if he doesn't have hired guns to have his back. The exact opposite of being "The Ass Kicker". Steph got accidentally knocked down by Orton via Bryan (waitaminute!!!). Outside of the stereotypical insults thrown at women in WWE, that's as good as you're going to get outside of embarrassing her in some way or letting a Diva put paws on her. We can't forget about HBK (who literally kicked Bryan out of the main event scene) also getting comeuppance twice yo! The number of segments of HHH being so much smarter/cooler/funnier than everyone else far, far outweigh those comeuppance moments, and of those you listed on the KO punch was the only real comeuppance moment. I don't really recall the funnier/cooler moments and they only qualify as smarter if you give him credit for bringing backup, which I don't. Most of the time when he's unprofessional he gets smacked around for it, when he keeps things strictly business things end peacefully.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Dec 31, 2013 12:02:35 GMT -5
I think at this point, the better question is: Why aren't they portraying HHH and Stephanie as outright heels anymore? At this point, they're basically just two well-meaning but out of touch rich people, as opposed to villains that are justifiably detestable. I have a feeling that at this point, they are so in love with their own heel characters that they view them as misunderstood heroes who are justified in there actions instead of deserving of their just comeuppance.
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Sam Punk
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Post by Sam Punk on Dec 31, 2013 15:49:20 GMT -5
Because he's The Game. The Cerebral Assassin. The King of Kings.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 31, 2013 15:56:21 GMT -5
I think at this point, the better question is: Why aren't they portraying HHH and Stephanie as outright heels anymore? At this point, they're basically just two well-meaning but out of touch rich people, as opposed to villains that are justifiably detestable. yeah there becoming more and more like tweeners every week
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2013 15:56:49 GMT -5
I don't think Steph has to act much to play her role on TV.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 31, 2013 15:57:16 GMT -5
I think of it more as a slow build that will likely see him get some kind of just desserts at 'Mania
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Dec 31, 2013 15:58:37 GMT -5
This is the same dude who has people call him the Michael Jorden of professional wrestling on his DVD, what you think?
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Post by nonrev on Dec 31, 2013 16:06:42 GMT -5
This is the same dude who has people call him the Michael Jorden of professional wrestling on his DVD, what you think? That's kind of a back-handed compliment as Michael Jordan (as judged by his hall of fame speech) appears to be a massive egotistical asshole
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Post by JTG Fan on Dec 31, 2013 16:13:57 GMT -5
This is the same dude who has people call him the Michael Jorden of professional wrestling on his DVD, what you think? That's kind of a back-handed compliment as Michael Jordan (as judged by his hall of fame speech) appears to be a massive egotistical asshole And terrible when it comes to being an executive in an organization.
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Post by Crimson on Dec 31, 2013 16:24:58 GMT -5
Because he's The Game. The Cerebral Assassin. The King of Kings. The COO of Dis Business!
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 31, 2013 17:53:54 GMT -5
That's kind of a back-handed compliment as Michael Jordan (as judged by his hall of fame speech) appears to be a massive egotistical asshole And terrible when it comes to being an executive in an organization. Terrible? What has MJ done to be bumped up to terrible?
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Post by Sam Punk on Dec 31, 2013 18:04:58 GMT -5
And terrible when it comes to being an executive in an organization. Terrible? What has MJ done to be bumped up to terrible? Well he did bring back the Charlotte Hornets.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Dec 31, 2013 19:02:46 GMT -5
I think at this point, the better question is: Why aren't they portraying HHH and Stephanie as outright heels anymore? At this point, they're basically just two well-meaning but out of touch rich people, as opposed to villains that are justifiably detestable. I think they're portraying them as two-faced, not out of touch. Their making matches people like while pushing people they don't is them sucking up to the fans the way Vicki and Maddox suck up to them. They're like Al Capone opening soup kitchens during the depression. But why now? When they've already shown them earlier as blatantly scummy and underhanded? They're basically telling the story backwards. What's the point of being disingenuous now when they've already been exposed through all their prior machinations with Bryan, Show & the Rhodes family? Makes zero sense. And just confuses the issue.
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