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Post by Branimal on Jan 9, 2014 8:48:57 GMT -5
I can't get over how great this is. Between having this, Netflix and NHL Gamecenter, I'm glad I cut the cable cord over two years ago. I only have to pay for stuff I'll actually watch rather than getting saddled with channels and programs that I don't actually need.
Good work, WWE. Why oh why couldn't Feb 24th be a "North American" launch date rather than just US only!
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Post by PrinceD on Jan 9, 2014 8:51:48 GMT -5
Any word if this will be available on Apple TV?
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Post by 543Y2J on Jan 9, 2014 8:53:15 GMT -5
Still wish it would have a cooler/better logo. It just looks like a 9 year old would make with word art/paint or something
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Post by jwarr on Jan 9, 2014 8:57:22 GMT -5
I wish I had high speed internet.
Yes, I know it's 2014.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Jan 9, 2014 8:58:19 GMT -5
Just so everyone knows, WrestleMania being included this year is just a hook. Next year's Mania (and all future ones) will not be available on the Network, but traditional PPV exclusively.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Jan 9, 2014 9:00:45 GMT -5
This is basically the next best thing to getting access to the WWE video archive.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2014 9:14:12 GMT -5
Any word if this will be available on Apple TV? They had WWE Network-branded Apple TVs under all the seats during the presentation, so I assume that was the device they couldn't mention. Just so everyone knows, WrestleMania being included this year is just a hook. Next year's Mania (and all future ones) will not be available on the Network, but traditional PPV exclusively. Did they ever say that?
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Post by domrep on Jan 9, 2014 9:14:27 GMT -5
Just so everyone knows, WrestleMania being included this year is just a hook. Next year's Mania (and all future ones) will not be available on the Network, but traditional PPV exclusively. But you're still getting 11 PPVs that otherwise I wouldn't watch or get a stream for w/out paying for anything. BTW, I think WWE only gets 40% of the PPV money, providers keep everything else.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jan 9, 2014 9:25:35 GMT -5
Why oh why couldn't Feb 24th be a "North American" launch date rather than just US only! It's like that one guy said during the presentation,Vince McMahon is a patriot!
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Post by playa on Jan 9, 2014 9:31:21 GMT -5
The WWE Network sounds awesome. They sold me when they said we can get ALL the PPV's including Wrestlemania. A 6 month subscription is lower than the price of Wrestlemania alone so its really a no brainer. You'd be a fool to not sign up for this. February 24th cant come fast enough.
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Post by jamofpearls on Jan 9, 2014 9:33:27 GMT -5
I'm definitely signing up. Hopefully enough people will, and other companies will start to take notice.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Jan 9, 2014 9:45:08 GMT -5
Any word if this will be available on Apple TV? They had WWE Network-branded Apple TVs under all the seats during the presentation, so I assume that was the device they couldn't mention. Just so everyone knows, WrestleMania being included this year is just a hook. Next year's Mania (and all future ones) will not be available on the Network, but traditional PPV exclusively. Did they ever say that? It was mentioned at the press scrum afterward that didn't air on the live stream. Also, the sign up fee will be 60.00 dollars up front (or 9.99 for 6 months). And after that, if you want to renew, you'll have to re-up for another six month commitment. That's how they'll be doing it for the foreseeable future. There will never be month to month. Once your six months is up, you'll have to commit to another six if you want to continue the service.
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Post by metylerca on Jan 9, 2014 9:48:42 GMT -5
They had WWE Network-branded Apple TVs under all the seats during the presentation, so I assume that was the device they couldn't mention. Did they ever say that? It was mentioned at the press scrum afterward that didn't air on the live stream. Also, the sign up fee will be 60.00 dollars up front (or 9.99 for 6 months). And after that, if you want to renew, you'll have to re-up for another six month commitment. That's how they'll be doing it for the foreseeable future. There will never be month to month. Once your six months is up, you'll have to commit to another six if you want to continue the service. Do you think the 6 month commitment catch will cost them a lot of potential customers?
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SEAN CARLESS
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Jan 9, 2014 9:56:34 GMT -5
It was mentioned at the press scrum afterward that didn't air on the live stream. Also, the sign up fee will be 60.00 dollars up front (or 9.99 for 6 months). And after that, if you want to renew, you'll have to re-up for another six month commitment. That's how they'll be doing it for the foreseeable future. There will never be month to month. Once your six months is up, you'll have to commit to another six if you want to continue the service. Do you think the 6 month commitment catch will cost them a lot of potential customers? I think it's actually a sound strategy. And one I think they have to implement to offset the potential revenue loss on the PPVs themselves. Basically, you're getting every PPV in 2013, plus a lot of vault content and TV replays for 120 dollars a year. When you consider that Mania, in HD, is more than half of that, that's pretty damn good. What is not good however is that Canada (I don't know the PPV structure of the UK, Australia, etc.) will still have to wait a year, and will have to pay regular market value for PPVs, WrestleMania included. I think that this may cause a flood of piracy from international outlets left out in the cold right now, who'll be pissed that they're getting hosed. And that could take a sizeable chunk out of revenue.
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Post by jimblazer on Jan 9, 2014 10:04:45 GMT -5
Oh, this will be fantastic.
I for one, demand more Legend's Roundtables!
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Jan 9, 2014 10:14:59 GMT -5
Oh, this will be fantastic. I for one, demand more Legend's Roundtables! Oh yeah. No excuses now. This time more than one episode a freakin' year.
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Post by Sparvid on Jan 9, 2014 10:24:24 GMT -5
I just realized, how is this going to effect the PPV buyrates?
Will future shareholder conference calls consist of Vince saying something like "Well, there were 100,000 less people who ordered Summerslam compared to last year, but 150,000 people has signed up for the network (many of them didn't actually watch Summerslam, but hey, they paid for it) so it works overall" Will there be publically avaliable numbers for how many network customers who watch each PPV?
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jan 9, 2014 10:30:33 GMT -5
Do you think the 6 month commitment catch will cost them a lot of potential customers? I think it's actually a sound strategy. And one I think they have to implement to offset the potential revenue loss on the PPVs themselves. Basically, you're getting every PPV in 2013, plus a lot of vault content and TV replays for 120 dollars a year. When you consider that Mania, in HD, is more than half of that, that's pretty damn good. What is not good however is that Canada (I don't know the PPV structure of the UK, Australia, etc.) will still have to wait a year, and will have to pay regular market value for PPVs, WrestleMania included. I think that this may cause a flood of piracy from international outlets left out in the cold right now, who'll be pissed that they're getting hosed. And that could take a sizeable chunk out of revenue. You would think by now Non American WWE fans would be used to getting hosed.
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Post by steamboat1 on Jan 9, 2014 10:59:06 GMT -5
The only issue I have from a business standpoint is an argument that works both ways. If you are WWE, by doing this and offering replays of your key shows Raw and Smackdown the day after they air, you are costing yourselves a serious point of revenue and that is how much they can charge for ads. Advertisers have been apt to not pony up as much for first run shows when the on-demand service of the company/channel providing it turns it around online quickly. That could hurt the WWE when their TV contract is up here shortly and they may not get the near billion dollar tv provider deal they are looking for.
Coincidentally, this argument works the other way to. By offering a subscription based service, you created a direct stream of revenue and cut out the middleman in needing said advertisers. It will be interesting to see how they go about advertising on the on-demand service and if they do sell ad space in the form of in-stream popups(they would be fools not to).
All in all, I think the main proponent of how the network will end up doing is the how the traditional PPV buyrates do after this. One can only assume that the number of traditional buys will drop drastically. However, with what PPV providers charge WWE to carry their PPV's(Meltzer one time said 40%), they might be smart in cutting out the middle man and charging for adspace in the middle of the PPV stream.
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Post by deancubed on Jan 9, 2014 11:00:44 GMT -5
Well it's Canada - we get hosed because we are hosers.
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