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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 29, 2014 10:38:44 GMT -5
if WWE is smart they won't have anyone cut a "he picked up his ball and went home"" petty whinefest because whoever does it (it'll probably be Cena) is going to get nuclear heat. fans are too smart to automatically assume the company's version these days. ok HIM I'll give you. make it happen WWE.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Jan 29, 2014 10:39:17 GMT -5
If this is really about him not being able to main event a WrestleMania, dude needs to bite the bullet and/or get over it. He's a great talent and surefire legend in the business already, not closing the biggest show of the year doesn't taint that. Maybe there are just other people on the roster that appeal to wider demos than he does. There's no way that's what it is. I haven't heard any details yet (no one has) but I would venture to guess it's likely to do with the PPV payoff reformation coming for the boys because of the Network, and maybe a lack of creative vision for him going forward. This is a guy who doesn't NEED to to do this. He's financially rock solid. He's in a position to tell management, and has, if things suck. If he's left, its likely because he's heard something infuriating that they're not going to bend on.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Jan 29, 2014 10:39:30 GMT -5
Taz: I'll have the Farm Raised Catfish Platt.. OH and a beautiful side headlock to Ladyboy chaser! If this is real the WWE is a complete clusterf*** right now. When you can out-clusterf*** TNA... Actually I take that back TNA is still the bigger clusterf***. This. Whatever you can say about WWE, at least they aren't (allegedly) bringing back Vince Russo.
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Post by rrh on Jan 29, 2014 10:40:08 GMT -5
F4W Breaking News: C.M. Punk taking break from WWE
Maybe someone with a subscription can tell us more details.
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Post by Andy Martin on Jan 29, 2014 10:41:10 GMT -5
If there's one thing I have trouble believing, it's anything to do with Punk and contracts.(especially Punk's side of it)
But if it's true, that sucks...Or something.
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Jan 29, 2014 10:41:40 GMT -5
So this is much my response upon waking up to this news:
I do agree he has every right to be pissed off. How many times has he stated that he wants to main event Mania? How can someone have an epic match with the Undertaker one year and be put with Kane the next?
Haven't read the whole thread, but has someone made a pipe bomb joke yet?
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Post by kidglov3s on Jan 29, 2014 10:41:53 GMT -5
If this is really about him not being able to main event a WrestleMania, dude needs to bite the bullet and/or get over it. He's a great talent and surefire legend in the business already, not closing the biggest show of the year doesn't taint that. Maybe there are just other people on the roster that appeal to wider demos than he does. There's no way that's what it is. I haven't heard any details yet (no one has) but I would venture to guess it's likely to do with the PPV payoff reformation coming for the boys because of the Network, and maybe a lack of creative vision for him going forward. This is a guy who doesn't NEED to to do this. He's financially rock solid. He's in a position to tell management, and has, if things suck. If he's left, its likely because he's heard something infuriating that they're not going to bend on. Someone earlier said Summerslam payoff, I don't think it's quite sunk in that this business is fundamentally transformed in a few weeks.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jan 29, 2014 10:43:56 GMT -5
If this is really about him not being able to main event a WrestleMania, dude needs to bite the bullet and/or get over it. He's a great talent and surefire legend in the business already, not closing the biggest show of the year doesn't taint that. Maybe there are just other people on the roster that appeal to wider demos than he does. There's no way that's what it is. I haven't heard any details yet (no one has) but I would venture to guess it's likely to do with the PPV payoff reformation coming for the boys because of the Network, and maybe a lack of creative vision for him going forward. This is a guy who doesn't NEED to to do this. He's financially rock solid. He's in a position to tell management, and has, if things suck. If he's left, its likely because he's heard something infuriating that they're not going to bend on. True, by most accounts he's been the anti-Flair with his money and could comfortably step away any time he wants. Although creatively I also think he's hit a Cena style plateau where his legacy is complete and, much like Cena, he doesn't need to have the show revolve around him at this point.
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Post by MGH on Jan 29, 2014 10:46:07 GMT -5
Really surprised the money thing hasn't been addressed more, not only in this thread but in general. I never even considered the factor the WWE Network could have on wrestler pay. PPV is a HUGE part of their pay, especially top guys, and the fact that WWE hasn't told them what's going on with that should understandably be a huge point of contention. That honestly makes the most sense as a "straw that broke the camels back" I'm with you. I'm sure he's burned out physically, and watching Rock/Batista do this at Mania to guys for three straight years has probably burned him out mentally, but this is a huge deal and you know it's something the talent is concerned about. When you can't get answers about how you're going to make your living, it makes for a really scary work environment. Especially one where you're one second away from losing it all.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Jan 29, 2014 10:49:57 GMT -5
If this is really about him not being able to main event a WrestleMania, dude needs to bite the bullet and/or get over it. He's a great talent and surefire legend in the business already, not closing the biggest show of the year doesn't taint that. Maybe there are just other people on the roster that appeal to wider demos than he does. I doubt it's just that. There are clearly issues in the WWE in respect to how they're booking the main event level guys and how over the last 3 years part-timers/past names are taking the spotlight. Its right in front of our faces. From HHH's friends all seemingly having pushes to them blatantly ignoring the fans. Sure, it could end with a great payoff but there is nothing to say that it will. Punk is using his power and lofty status because he can. I'm sure the Mania main is a big deal to him, and we also don't know if that was promised to him or something like that. I dont think Punk works like that. I doubt its one single thing. I think this is actually a good thing. The fans will only get more louder, and hopefully the McMahons wake up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 10:52:12 GMT -5
There's no way that's what it is. I haven't heard any details yet (no one has) but I would venture to guess it's likely to do with the PPV payoff reformation coming for the boys because of the Network, and maybe a lack of creative vision for him going forward. This is a guy who doesn't NEED to to do this. He's financially rock solid. He's in a position to tell management, and has, if things suck. If he's left, its likely because he's heard something infuriating that they're not going to bend on. True, by most accounts he's been the anti-Flair with his money and could comfortably step away any time he wants. Although creatively I also think he's hit a Cena style plateau where his legacy is complete and, much like Cena, he doesn't need to have the show revolve around him at this point. Related, I'm really wondering how much longer Cena's going to be around. Not like I'm expecting him to talk, but the fact is, he's so banged up that his career could really end in any match and it wouldn't be a huge surprise, he has to have tons of money put back particularly since the divorce worked out well for him, and he seems to be increasingly irrelevant. Combine that with the fact that the guy's done everything there is to do except end the streak multiple times over and you just have to wonder if he's ever thought about hanging it up.
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Post by hossfan on Jan 29, 2014 10:53:36 GMT -5
Does anyone have any specifics on how the WWE Network will changes wrestlers' pay for Wrestlemania or any other PPVs?
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jan 29, 2014 10:54:53 GMT -5
CM took his ball and went home like Austin, or was it more like Frank from Rocky Horror given he said he was going home? People's got to know. Ha,when started reading this thread "I'm going home" started playing on Pandora.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 10:56:51 GMT -5
Does anyone have any specifics on how the WWE Network will changes wrestlers' pay for Wrestlemania or any other PPVs? Nope, and that's the problem. Essentially it seems like any time someone tries to ask the company about it they dodge the question.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Jan 29, 2014 10:57:53 GMT -5
Does anyone have any specifics on how the WWE Network will changes wrestlers' pay for Wrestlemania or any other PPVs? I think part of the problem is that nobody knows, even the guys working there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 10:58:18 GMT -5
I really do hope this is just a work.
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Post by Rican on Jan 29, 2014 11:03:02 GMT -5
I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I thought something was up when he was just totally MIA Monday and I don't remember the announcers even saying anything. Also that Bryan got put into his spot feuding with The Authority apparently.
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Post by kidglov3s on Jan 29, 2014 11:04:33 GMT -5
If this is the end of his initial run with WWE at least he created a bright spot in a boring rumble with Torito.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jan 29, 2014 11:07:04 GMT -5
Does anyone have any specifics on how the WWE Network will changes wrestlers' pay for Wrestlemania or any other PPVs? Nope, and that's the problem. Essentially it seems like any time someone tries to ask the company about it they dodge the question. I think at one point right after the Network was announced Vince was going to do a talent meeting but it got cancelled.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 11:09:40 GMT -5
He's not some hack. He could literally get booked anywhere else if it came right down to it.
Unless he's just being a complete diva about something, good for him for being strong enough to walk away from the bright lights.
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