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Post by mizerable on Feb 3, 2014 1:03:38 GMT -5
While we can go on and on about QB's and rings, be careful when judging NFL'ers by rings. Remember- Marty Schottenheimer/Bud Grant/Marv Levy have 0 SB titles. Barry Switzer and Pete Carroll do. That's part of what annoys me when people bring up Peyton's percentages. The dude quarterbacked a lot of really mediocre teams to the playoffs in his career, and he was never going to win the AFC during those early Patriots dominating years.
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Post by LastCall on Feb 3, 2014 1:14:05 GMT -5
Can't forget about this little gem.
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Post by mizerable on Feb 3, 2014 1:18:01 GMT -5
"Aren't you gonna take your jacket off?"
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Feb 3, 2014 1:24:09 GMT -5
Here is my take on who will likely be in contention for the playoffs next year:
NFC
1) San Francisco 49ers (NFC West champions) - They are deep in every facet of the game, getting a new stadium, and Kaepernick will have an extra offseason of development behind him. Their GM is working magic in regards to being able to sign veteran players and keep the team under the salary cap. I expect to see more of the same next year. 2) Carolina Panthers (NFC South champions) - This team is a strong mix of seasoned talent and young studs. I expect that Cam Newton will make further strides and develop into a true franchise QB soon. He has had many strong performances. He merely needs consistency, which he will learn. 3) Green Bay Packers (NFC North champions) - Obviously, Aaron Rodgers will perennially be a MVP candidate. The team has resolved some of their glaring weaknesses of years' past (the ability to run). They have another offseason to address their other primary weakness (the defense). They probably can't be a serious SB threat, but they could be dangerous for any one game. 4) Philadelphia Eagles (NFC East champions) - Here is where things get dicey. They have some serious talent on the team, but after an offseason of studying the tapes will the rest of the league start figuring out how to deal with Chip Kelly's system? Granted, someone has to win the NFC East and the division simply will go to the team that screws up the least. I think it will be the Eagles. 5) Seattle Seahawks (wildcard) - If they can keep most of their talent then they and the 49ers will slug it out to be the top of the NFC again. If not, they still will likely still be the wild card team no one wants to play. 6) New Orleans Saints (wildcard) Next year will be one of the last hurrahs for the team in its current format. I think that they need to let seasoned players go and build through the draft and pursue young players in free agency. If they do this during the upcoming offseason they could contend again before Brees retires.
Contending for playoff spots
7) Arizona Cardinals 8) Chicago Bears 9) Dallas Cowboys
AFC
1) Denver Broncos (AFC West champions) While some things must be addressed, the team needs retooling, not rebuilding. They have shown that physical teams cause them real issues. They must improve that, and improve the defense. Also, they need to get running backs with better hands. 2) Indianapolis Colts (AFC South champions) - This is a young team that overcame a ton of injuries this season. These injuries accounted for many of their problems this past year. Their O-Line still needs work in order to do better on run blocking, but pieces are starting to click in other ways. Wayne will return and there will be a ton of talented offensive skills players returning as well (though Donald Brown will cost a lot more to keep than I would have thought several months ago). The defense is physical and will be scary when all players are healthy (which did not happen for most of the second half of the season). 3) New England Patriots (AFC East champions) - The offense is strong as long as Brady is there and that O-line is healthy. The defense is young but improving. They are becoming experts at rearming instead of rebuilding. 4) Cincinnati Bengals (AFC North champions) - They have a ton of talent on both sides of the ball. Unfortunately, I am not convinced that they actually have balls in Cincinnati. They should be dominant. They have not been so far. 5) Kansas City Chiefs (wildcard) - Andy Reid is better than most coaches. He gets so much out of his teams and this team has some serious talent to give him much. They will win a lot of games and find ways to lose the big ones. I'm sorry, but the pattern is established. 6) Miami Dolphins (wildcard) - They are talented on both sides of the ball and sometimes put that talent to good use. They also manage to get in their own way a lot. Playing in the same division as the Patriots is NOT a plus for them.
Contenders for playoff slots:
7) Baltimore Ravens 8) San Diego Chargers 9) New York Jets
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Post by Unocal 76 on Feb 3, 2014 1:42:37 GMT -5
Seahawks are the type of team you want to shut up, but can't. They yap, but back it up.
It's gonna be fun to see teams gunning for this team of hotheads and big mouths.
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Feb 3, 2014 1:52:56 GMT -5
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 3, 2014 2:02:16 GMT -5
While we can go on and on about QB's and rings, be careful when judging NFL'ers by rings. Remember- Marty Schottenheimer/Bud Grant/Marv Levy have 0 SB titles. Barry Switzer and Pete Carroll do. Schottenheimer is still the worst coach you could have on a playoff team. He was 5-13 in the playoffs. An aggressive offense is not something Schottenheimer knew how to call. Seahawks are the type of team you want to shut up, but can't. They yap, but back it up. It's gonna be fun to see teams gunning for this team of hotheads and big mouths. I'm a Niners fan, but I don't mind the Seahawks trash talking. For 2 reasons, one being the Niners do the same thing, and the other being they back it up. The Niners and Seahawks both trash talk, they're cocky, arrogant, and egotistical, but they both back it up on the field. They get popped in the mouth, they're hitting right back. Same thing with the Panthers, you pop them in the mouth, they're hitting right back. Or the Patriots being arrogant, they've earned it. they've proven it on the field. I have a problem with someone like the Lions though. They're cocky, arrogant, and egotistical, but they don't back it up. They get popped in the mouth, and they'll turn dirty instead of hitting someone back. They're phony tough, and don't back up their arrogance, those are the teams that shouldn't be talking shit like they're one of the best.
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Post by thetower52 on Feb 3, 2014 2:09:47 GMT -5
I'm picking the 49ers vs the raiders in the Super Bowl because why the f*** not
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Post by thetower52 on Feb 3, 2014 2:09:57 GMT -5
I'm picking the 49ers vs the raiders in the Super Bowl because why the f*** not
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Feb 3, 2014 2:16:50 GMT -5
I'm picking the 49ers vs the raiders in the Super Bowl because why the f*** not I have something I am dying to ask you. Why do you post every post twice?
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Post by thetower52 on Feb 3, 2014 2:20:27 GMT -5
I'm picking the 49ers vs the raiders in the Super Bowl because why the f*** not I have something I am dying to ask you. Why do you post every post twice? I'm posting on my phone and I keep getting sever probloms which refreshes my page posting everything twice
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Post by thetower52 on Feb 3, 2014 2:20:48 GMT -5
I'm picking the 49ers vs the raiders in the Super Bowl because why the f*** not I have something I am dying to ask you. Why do you post every post twice? I'm posting on my phone and I keep getting sever probloms which refreshes my page posting everything twice
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Post by Arthur Digby Stamp on Feb 3, 2014 3:06:57 GMT -5
Living in Seattle my whole life, having never experienced a real championship, this is surreal.
The city is buzzing, there's such a feeling of camaraderie. My dad has has spent the last 30 years waiting for this moment. The Seahawks have finally won a Super Bowl, Macklemore (for as much as he's hated in some circles) is one of the biggest acts in hip hop, and Daniel Bryan, a kid from the shitty logging town of Aberdeen, is the biggest thing in pro wrestling, my first love.
Some people don't care about most, or in some cases all of these things, but it's an amazing thing to be apart of.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Feb 3, 2014 3:08:00 GMT -5
How long you think this will linger for Denver?
I know this feeling too well as a Bills fan.
I feel like this tweet kinda sorta gets to my point:
@stephenasmith No matter what Denver does next season we'll remember this beatdown and say: "Screw Them! We know who they really are."
You have this sinking feeling that Denver will have this hanging over them forever and ever
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Post by Unocal 76 on Feb 3, 2014 3:34:40 GMT -5
Oh, and I don't want to hear anyone say SF/SEA was the real Super Bowl.
If that's the case, then Ravens/Patriots was the real SB last year. And Giants/49ers before that.
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 3, 2014 3:45:58 GMT -5
So I was traveling all day and didn't get in to watch the game until after half time.
I didn't have a dog in the fight, it was a fun game to analyze on paper, so the and result was really, really disappointing. Not because Denver didn't win, but because I was hoping for an amazing game. In the end, history still holds true, defense does win championships, but I had hoped for a more exciting game out of these two teams.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Feb 3, 2014 3:48:38 GMT -5
Outside of the 2009 Jets, how many standout defenses have fallen short in the playoffs?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 3, 2014 6:05:27 GMT -5
Congrats to Seattle, They absolutely dominated.
As for Denver, just like the 07 Patriots, all of the gawdy offensive team and personal records now mean jack shit.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 3, 2014 6:09:28 GMT -5
Going with the SB we missed twice in the past three seasons for next year. San Francisco vs. New England. Don't you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby! Don't you put that evil on me! Can we not just have those two teams never, ever, ever, ever make it anywhere near a Superbowl ever again? Now, THAT would be awesome.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 3, 2014 6:16:17 GMT -5
While we can go on and on about QB's and rings, be careful when judging NFL'ers by rings. Remember- Marty Schottenheimer/Bud Grant/Marv Levy have 0 SB titles. Barry Switzer and Pete Carroll do. Schottenheimer is one of the shittiest playoff coaches ever though.
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