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Post by Boo! on Feb 24, 2014 9:32:39 GMT -5
Hello everyone, I'm Gorilla Monsoon, excitement running wild here as the WWE Network launches for US customers only. But what about those overseas? No this thread isn't for discussion of what is banned in the Network thread but rather to ask this question: how much does this suck? Television for the next few weeks will focus on something unobtainable to us, there'll likely be network exclusive matches on post-show Raw's that we'll never get to see, probably title changes, feud conclusions not to mention all that great, exclusive shizzle they'll be ramming our throats with over the next few weeks/months that we can 'only see' on WWE Network. Yet we still have to have a Sky Sports subscription and pay for all PPVs individually which together per month would work out to around $107 all told and yet we now get FAR less and even half the stuff we do get will be about the stuff we can't get. Isn't that a pretty shitty way to treat what is the second biggest market for WWE outside of the US? They recently concluded a deal with Sky to kick in after the current TV deal expires at the end of the year so we may get it then but why did they not seek, for the sake of the fans, to renegotiate terms to cover the final few months? A large part of me now is wondering whether it's worth it. It feels as if there's some exclusive club now, a bubble. That we're only 'seconary' members of the WWE universe. I'm sure people in Canada, Australia and everywhere else must feel pretty much the same. What's the point in watching something that you're A) obviously not that much of a concern and B) aren't going to be 'in' on 99% of the stuff that happens. We stay up until 4am each week to watch Raw and what'll happen now, we'll get 'rewarded' by the climax of the show not even being obtainable each week, despite the aforementioned $107 pay out per month it costs to get WWE programming in the UK. To the US subscribers - dont laugh  EDIT: Title edited to make it more inclusive...and dramatic |
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Post by Bo Rida on Feb 24, 2014 10:02:40 GMT -5
What's the latest with NXT arrival?
That situation is pissing me off too.
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Post by Boo! on Feb 24, 2014 10:03:43 GMT -5
What's the latest with NXT arrival? That situation is pissing me off too. Delayed arrival |
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Post by BEARD on Feb 24, 2014 10:04:40 GMT -5
I'm from the UK and I can't relate to any of this!
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Post by avenger on Feb 24, 2014 10:04:44 GMT -5
For a company whose first W stood for World, the WWE has always been very insular. It's going to be lihe the mid-90s again, when we'd get fed all the build up for the In Your House PPVs, then have no way of watching them, unless we wanted to wait two months for the tapes to go on sale. IYH 14 was the first one we got.
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Post by Boo! on Feb 24, 2014 10:05:26 GMT -5
I'm from the UK and I can't relate to any of this! What part of this can't you relate to? |
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Post by paywindah on Feb 24, 2014 10:11:49 GMT -5
I'm guessing they'll still put most of the pre- and post-shows on YouTube within 24 hours. It won't be the same as being live, but I doubt they'd do any major angles without letting those without access to the Network see them at some point.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Feb 24, 2014 10:22:53 GMT -5
It's the same with Canada. I kind of wish WWE had waited until they had all their ducks in a row before launching the service. For one, people in Canada will have to pay the full price to see WrestleMania, and any other show for the next 10 months potentially. I can imagine between Canada, U.K. and the rest of Europe, that there will likely be a huge influx of illegal streaming and downloading outside the U.S., due to the unfair imbalance in the market amongst international fans.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 10:25:14 GMT -5
I'm guessing they'll still put most of the pre- and post-shows on YouTube within 24 hours. It won't be the same as being live, but I doubt they'd do any major angles without letting those without access to the Network see them at some point. Pretty much. I'm sure that they'll have some interesting things on the post-shows but not everyone is getting the Network so I doubt that they do anything really major on it anytime soon. I'm in America and I'm not getting it, so if they start doing stuff on it oh well. |
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Post by Boo! on Feb 24, 2014 10:30:50 GMT -5
It's the same with Canada. I kind of wish WWE had waited until they had all their ducks in a row before launching the service. For one, people in Canada will have to pay the full price to see WrestleMania, and any other show for the next 10 months potentially. I can imagine between Canada, U.K. and the rest of Europe, that there will likely be a huge influx of illegal streaming and downloading outside the U.S., due to the unfair imbalance in the market amongst international fans. I think illegal streaming is still quite small-fry in comparison with the television audience. Previous WWE PPVs I think I've heard that barely a few thousand pay for the official online stream. Obviously the unofficial streams may be slightly higher but I think their problem over the next few months will be alienation of the much higher and lucrative TV audiences in these territories. As I mentioned in the OP, from my point of view as a UK fan I'm going to have to pay easily $100 a month to follow Raw, Smackdown and the PPVs. For that 'privilege' I'm going to miss out on so much content that isn't available to me. They'll be pre-show matches, post-show matches, angles, exclusive storyline-relevant shows and all the rest of it. Not to mention having to stay up to 4am Monday/Tuesday mornings for the privilege of being denied key content. I hate to be one of those 'if i don't get my way, I riot' folk, but I tell you, the above scenario...it just ain't happening. I can't say if I'm done with the product but for what it costs and the level of dedication it requires for someone on this timezone - the alienation thing isn't going down well. |
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Post by BEARD on Feb 24, 2014 10:34:25 GMT -5
I'm from the UK and I can't relate to any of this! What part of this can't you relate to? All of it! But it goes back to the bit about discussing what we're not allowed to it the network thread. |
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Post by Boo! on Feb 24, 2014 10:40:54 GMT -5
What part of this can't you relate to? All of it! But it goes back to the bit about discussing what we're not allowed to it the network thread. Hulkamaniacs never take a short cut, brother! I wonder what we'll get to 4am (end of Raw) just over 12 hours time to be denied? World title fight exclusively on the network? Major announcement? Batstia's head being ironed? It's one of those things that even for a hardcore fan like myself, will become less and less tolerable as the weeks go on. I mean, if half of the show is taken up by what's been on the WWE network and what will be on the network, I'm unsure how much longer my interest in the product itself will hold. There's a difference between choosing to opt-out of the Network and being told you cannot watch it. One would feel like a consumer choice I'd be engaged with, the other just seems like 'you don't matter'. |
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Post by audiencewatching on Feb 24, 2014 10:48:53 GMT -5
I'm annoyed but I'm sure they'll be away round it.
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Post by BEARD on Feb 24, 2014 10:49:09 GMT -5
Honestly I don't think there will be anything like that. If they're trying to entice people to watch something that happens immediately after the show ends then those people need to sign up and that takes time, not to mention the amount of people who will be trying to access the site and then the network at once.
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Post by Boo! on Feb 24, 2014 10:54:38 GMT -5
Honestly I don't think there will be anything like that. If they're trying to entice people to watch something that happens immediately after the show ends then those people need to sign up and that takes time, not to mention the amount of people who will be trying to access the site and then the network at once. There will be stuff like that. One the initial week or two is over and especially after WM they're going to go hell-for-leather to give people an excuse to sign up. Most weeks Raw will open with "OMG what just happened on the WWE network" and build towards a "tune into the WWE Network immediately after Raw goes off the air for the conclusion of this one." It also means we'll be denied pre-game PPV shows meaning we'll probably miss out on some of the most hyped matches on the card. |
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Post by BEARD on Feb 24, 2014 10:59:49 GMT -5
Honestly I don't think there will be anything like that. If they're trying to entice people to watch something that happens immediately after the show ends then those people need to sign up and that takes time, not to mention the amount of people who will be trying to access the site and then the network at once. There will be stuff like that. One the initial week or two is over and especially after WM they're going to go hell-for-leather to give people an excuse to sign up. Most weeks Raw will open with "OMG what just happened on the WWE network" and build towards a "tune into the WWE Network immediately after Raw goes off the air for the conclusion of this one." It also means we'll be denied pre-game PPV shows meaning we'll probably miss out on some of the most hyped matches on the card. I've had a look on the live stream and the show that follows Raw is "Backstage Pass". Not sure the title suggests any in ring action. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 11:02:37 GMT -5
Honestly I don't think there will be anything like that. If they're trying to entice people to watch something that happens immediately after the show ends then those people need to sign up and that takes time, not to mention the amount of people who will be trying to access the site and then the network at once. There will be stuff like that. One the initial week or two is over and especially after WM they're going to go hell-for-leather to give people an excuse to sign up. Most weeks Raw will open with "OMG what just happened on the WWE network" and build towards a "tune into the WWE Network immediately after Raw goes off the air for the conclusion of this one." It also means we'll be denied pre-game PPV shows meaning we'll probably miss out on some of the most hyped matches on the card. I doubt it. Mainly because I have to imagine that few people are going to want to sit through what is essentially 4 hours of Raw weekly. It will probably just be promos, analysis from the panel like the PPVs, and recaps on the pre and post shows. |
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Post by Boo! on Feb 24, 2014 11:03:13 GMT -5
There will be stuff like that. One the initial week or two is over and especially after WM they're going to go hell-for-leather to give people an excuse to sign up. Most weeks Raw will open with "OMG what just happened on the WWE network" and build towards a "tune into the WWE Network immediately after Raw goes off the air for the conclusion of this one." It also means we'll be denied pre-game PPV shows meaning we'll probably miss out on some of the most hyped matches on the card. I've had a look on the live stream and the show that follows Raw is "Backstage Pass". Not sure the title suggests any in ring action. What part any title suggests in-ring action? WWE this will include in-ring action, isn't the catchiest of titles. |
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Post by The IWC WORLD Champion on Feb 24, 2014 11:04:56 GMT -5
It is still on sky, so don't see what the big deal is.
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Post by BEARD on Feb 24, 2014 11:08:29 GMT -5
I've had a look on the live stream and the show that follows Raw is "Backstage Pass". Not sure the title suggests any in ring action. What part any title suggests in-ring action? WWE this will include in-ring action, isn't the catchiest of titles. The "backstage" bit. We'll see later on I guess. I hope there is in ring stuff. |
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