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Post by chibul on Nov 2, 2018 10:56:16 GMT -5
I've talked about it before I think but Summerslam 88 on the Network is missing Gene Okerlund's interview with Sugar Ray Leonard building up the boxing match that Vince was promoting as well as the commentators talking over footage of Surivor Series 87, this is right after the Ultimate Warrior vs Honky Tonk Man. Both are missing the intermission and some crowd shots right before intermission. Interestingly this is all in the Tagged Classics version but cut out of the Coliseum Video version which is weird because almost all of the Tagged Classics videos are the Coliseum Videos converted to PAL.
I've talked about this but one thing that's edited out of both versions that's on the PPV Version is a cool little easter egg. I believe this was a glitch and that this was not intended to be for the PPV audience but before the "WWF What the world is watching" intro that happened before every WWF show in those days, the screen is black for about a minute but you get to hear Howard Finkel warming up the crowd for about 30 seconds saying "In one minute we will be going live" Kind of a cool little easter egg that I wish they left in. I'm guessing that this was a glitch and the show was supposed to open with that "What the world is watching" intro.
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Post by chronocross on Nov 3, 2018 5:45:44 GMT -5
On the 4/14/05 Smackdown during Carlito’s Cabana where Carlito sings “The Sun Will Come Out Tomorrow” to Rey which was edited off the network version.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Nov 5, 2018 6:55:05 GMT -5
Raw after Summerslam 2018 - when the Shield first attempt the triple powerbomb on Strowman, one of the handheld cameramen stepped into frame of the live shot. This has been corrected on the network (you would have seen the handheld step in when Corey shouts "It's time to summon the Cerberus!")
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Post by wildojinx on Nov 10, 2018 20:24:48 GMT -5
Does anyone know if the Hirohito or Vade Hansen vignettes (for gimmicks that never happened) were edited out or not?
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Post by alextorres96 on Nov 11, 2018 1:06:55 GMT -5
Does anyone know if the Hirohito or Vade Hansen vignettes (for gimmicks that never happened) were edited out or not? they edited out the hirohito vignette but kept vade hansen's intact
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Post by James Fabiano on Nov 11, 2018 13:09:16 GMT -5
So after watching again, I'm guessing that the reason Alfred talking about Steamboat vs Matt Bourne was edited out is because Alfred says "A Newcomer to the WWF is Ricky Steamboat". As we've seen, the new form of editing is throwing the baby out with the bathwater, I guess.
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Post by chibul on Nov 12, 2018 23:06:28 GMT -5
Just got the actual PPV Version of King of the Ring 93. Looks like one of the things edited out that's not on the Classics on Demand version is they show a bunch of WWE wrestlers talking on the phone and then they tell you that you have a chance to talk to these WWF wrestlers if you call their 1-900 number.
I just thought of something after watching this. I wonder if WWE's Network Curators made a conscious decision to use Coliseum Video versions instead of the Network versions for most of the 1993 to 1997 PPV's because they were too lazy to edit out AOL and Hotline plugs so they just decided that it would be easier to use the coliseum video versions.
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Post by cjh on Nov 12, 2018 23:27:41 GMT -5
Just got the actual PPV Version of King of the Ring 93. Looks like one of the things edited out that's not on the Classics on Demand version is they show a bunch of WWE wrestlers talking on the phone and then they tell you that you have a chance to talk to these WWF wrestlers if you call their 1-900 number. I just thought of something after watching this. I wonder if WWE's Network Curators made a conscious decision to use Coliseum Video versions instead of the Network versions for most of the 1993 to 1997 PPV's because they were too lazy to edit out AOL and Hotline plugs so they just decided that it would be easier to use the coliseum video versions. Out of curiosity, did the 1-900 segment include any wrestlers who didn't have a match on the show? I remember they had a plug for the 1-900 number at the 1993 Royal Rumble, and the Bushwhackers were involved even though they weren't in a match that night. A bunch of PPVs on the Network are the live versions, and whenever there's a hotline plug, they just put a "phone number no longer active" message on the screen.
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Post by cjh on Nov 13, 2018 20:23:37 GMT -5
Thunder 24 (Jul. 8, 1998) is shown with some of the image on all four sides missing until the 52:28 mark because WWE zoomed in on the video. Once the show gets to the segment with Curt Hennig on the phone with Rick Rude, the image looks normal.
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Post by cjh on Nov 15, 2018 21:36:22 GMT -5
Edits to Survivor Series Showdown 1993:
- On the original airing, Vince McMahon plugged the Survivor Series Hotline and so did Jim Ross later in the show. Both plugs have been removed on the Network version.
- Two "promotional consideration paid for by the following" spots are gone.
- A "WWF: It's Unbelievable!" spot should air before the Foreign Fanatics interview, but it is missing.
- There should be a Ray Combs promo right before the Shawn Michaels segment where he visits the fake Hart family, but it isn't shown.
This one is a bit odd. On Nitro 150 (Jul. 27, 1998), at the 1:40:10 mark, the show returns from a commercial, many crowd shots are shown as Tony Schiavone and Mike Tenay discuss a video that apparently just aired, and the show goes to another break after less than a minute. I'm not clear on what the video was or why it's missing.
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Post by chibul on Nov 15, 2018 23:49:52 GMT -5
Edits to Survivor Series Showdown 1993: - On the original airing, Vince McMahon plugged the Survivor Series Hotline and so did Jim Ross later in the show. Both plugs have been removed on the Network version. - Two "promotional consideration paid for by the following" spots are gone. - A "WWF: It's Unbelievable!" spot should air before the Foreign Fanatics interview, but it is missing. - There should be a Ray Combs promo right before the Shawn Michaels segment where he visits the fake Hart family, but it isn't shown. This one is a bit odd. On Nitro 150 (Jul. 27, 1998), at the 1:40:10 mark, the show returns from a commercial, many crowd shots are shown as Tony Schiavone and Mike Tenay discuss a video that apparently just aired, and the show goes to another break after less than a minute. I'm not clear on what the video was or why it's missing. Were there two different version of this show that aired? Mine is only 45 minutes with the commercials edited out and it's hosted by Vince McMahon and Bobby Heenan in a studio and starts with the Monday Night Raw intro montage. This one is twice as long and has Gorilla Monsoon and Jim Ross opening up the show.
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Post by petef3 on Nov 16, 2018 0:46:06 GMT -5
Looking at CRZ's old recap of the 7/27/98 Nitro, it appears that what's missing is a Travis Tritt commercial for Road Wild. Obviously if it used his music it's right out, but I wonder if some of these inserts were put in at the network level and thus aren't part of the master tapes.
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Post by cjh on Nov 16, 2018 1:05:45 GMT -5
Edits to Survivor Series Showdown 1993: - On the original airing, Vince McMahon plugged the Survivor Series Hotline and so did Jim Ross later in the show. Both plugs have been removed on the Network version. - Two "promotional consideration paid for by the following" spots are gone. - A "WWF: It's Unbelievable!" spot should air before the Foreign Fanatics interview, but it is missing. - There should be a Ray Combs promo right before the Shawn Michaels segment where he visits the fake Hart family, but it isn't shown. This one is a bit odd. On Nitro 150 (Jul. 27, 1998), at the 1:40:10 mark, the show returns from a commercial, many crowd shots are shown as Tony Schiavone and Mike Tenay discuss a video that apparently just aired, and the show goes to another break after less than a minute. I'm not clear on what the video was or why it's missing. Were there two different version of this show that aired? Mine is only 45 minutes with the commercials edited out and it's hosted by Vince McMahon and Bobby Heenan in a studio and starts with the Monday Night Raw intro montage. This one is twice as long and has Gorilla Monsoon and Jim Ross opening up the show. Yes, there was a 2-hour version that aired the previous night. During the Raw era, they would repackage the Sunday night PPV hype specials on Monday. In the case of this show, they actually changed the commentary for Bret/Yoko as McMahon and Heenan called it on Sunday while JR and Monsoon announced it on the Raw version. Looking at CRZ's old recap of the 7/27/98 Nitro, it appears that what's missing is a Travis Tritt commercial for Road Wild. Obviously if it used his music it's right out, but I wonder if some of these inserts were put in at the network level and thus aren't part of the master tapes. Based on the recap, Schiavone and Tenay were talking about the replay of the BATB main event from a few segments earlier and how NWO Hollywood edited the footage to show Hogan dominating. WWE apparently cut the Travis Tritt promo but left in the banter between the announcers that immediately followed it.
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Post by chibul on Nov 16, 2018 5:57:50 GMT -5
Everybody knows that WWE went back in and edited out all of Rick Rude's themes a few years ago. What's interesting is that they did the for ECW also. Originally the ECW shows had Rick Rude's first theme music dubbed over the originals but now they have his new theme song which is a terrible rip off of his 2nd theme song dubbed in. It's weird that they would have done this because WWE only edits Rude's 2nd WWF theme and not theme that he used the first 6 months or so that he was in the WWF before they changed it in February or March of 1988 to the one that everybody remembers.
On the originals ECW shows Rick Rude came out to David Rose's "The Stripper" on the couple episodes and then they changed it to an arrangement of "The Stripper" with Electric Guitar playing the Horn parts I guess to make it a little more edgy. Those have always been overdubbed with Rude's original WWF theme but they have gone ahead and replaced it with the new theme that they gave him.
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Post by cjh on Nov 16, 2018 10:20:02 GMT -5
Everybody knows that WWE went back in and edited out all of Rick Rude's themes a few years ago. What's interesting is that they did the for ECW also. Originally the ECW shows had Rick Rude's first theme music dubbed over the originals but now they have his new theme song which is a terrible rip off of his 2nd theme song dubbed in. It's weird that they would have done this because WWE only edits Rude's 2nd WWF theme and not theme that he used the first 6 months or so that he was in the WWF before they changed it in February or March of 1988 to the one that everybody remembers.On the originals ECW shows Rick Rude came out to David Rose's "The Stripper" on the couple episodes and then they changed it to an arrangement of "The Stripper" with Electric Guitar playing the Horn parts I guess to make it a little more edgy. Those have always been overdubbed with Rude's original WWF theme but they have gone ahead and replaced it with the new theme that they gave him. Survivor Series 1987 and Royal Rumble 1988 have been edited as well. WWE replaces both versions. For some reason, Rude's real ECW theme slipped through on Hardcore Heaven 1997 for a bit before they caught it and changed it. On Classics On Demand, they didn't dub over his music on ECW shows.
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Post by chibul on Nov 16, 2018 18:25:58 GMT -5
Everybody knows that WWE went back in and edited out all of Rick Rude's themes a few years ago. What's interesting is that they did the for ECW also. Originally the ECW shows had Rick Rude's first theme music dubbed over the originals but now they have his new theme song which is a terrible rip off of his 2nd theme song dubbed in. It's weird that they would have done this because WWE only edits Rude's 2nd WWF theme and not theme that he used the first 6 months or so that he was in the WWF before they changed it in February or March of 1988 to the one that everybody remembers.On the originals ECW shows Rick Rude came out to David Rose's "The Stripper" on the couple episodes and then they changed it to an arrangement of "The Stripper" with Electric Guitar playing the Horn parts I guess to make it a little more edgy. Those have always been overdubbed with Rude's original WWF theme but they have gone ahead and replaced it with the new theme that they gave him. Survivor Series 1987 and Royal Rumble 1988 have been edited as well. WWE replaces both versions. For some reason, Rude's real ECW theme slipped through on Hardcore Heaven 1997 for a bit before they caught it and changed it. On Classics On Demand, they didn't dub over his music on ECW shows. This must be new. For a while they overdubbed the 2nd theme but didn't overdub the 1st. I'm wondering if this has something to do with the WWE Hall of Fame. They used his 2nd theme when they inducted Rick Rude. Maybe they decided that they should get the music licensed by the estate of David Rose if they are going to use that music in video packages on Raw and when they did that they made the call to change the music on the Network.
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Post by wildojinx on Nov 16, 2018 21:16:41 GMT -5
They also overdubbed the theme on Story Time, originally the story about Heyman and Rude and the gumballs ended with rude's 2nd WWF theme, but it was replaced with generic music.
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Post by alextorres96 on Nov 16, 2018 23:50:59 GMT -5
Edits to Survivor Series Showdown 1993: - On the original airing, Vince McMahon plugged the Survivor Series Hotline and so did Jim Ross later in the show. Both plugs have been removed on the Network version. - Two "promotional consideration paid for by the following" spots are gone. - A "WWF: It's Unbelievable!" spot should air before the Foreign Fanatics interview, but it is missing. - There should be a Ray Combs promo right before the Shawn Michaels segment where he visits the fake Hart family, but it isn't shown. This one is a bit odd. On Nitro 150 (Jul. 27, 1998), at the 1:40:10 mark, the show returns from a commercial, many crowd shots are shown as Tony Schiavone and Mike Tenay discuss a video that apparently just aired, and the show goes to another break after less than a minute. I'm not clear on what the video was or why it's missing. I'm skimming through that 7/27/98 nitro right now from a version online that has the original airing. the online original airing running time is 2:19:02, while the network version is 2:09:22. after the meng/Duggan match they go to commercial and a raven t shirt ad aired, which was cut on the network. on the original airing the lead guitar player gives an introduction to Eric. on the network that whole intro is cut and when their back from commercial it just cuts to a crowd shot and eric with elizabeth coming out to generic music. when hulk comes out, eric throws to a clip from the tonight show where Jay leno is mentioning the feud in his monologue. on the network that whole clip is taken out and is edited to show a crowd shot and then cuts to hogan's reaction to the missing clip. it's a weird edit because less 60 seconds after hogan sits down, eric says their running out of time before hogan cuts his promo. after a backstage segment with gene okerlund, there's a few minutes of the announcers killing time and talking about travis tritt performing at road wild before throwing to an ad promoting the musical performance for the ppv. On the network that is all edited out. instead after okerlund sends it back to the announcers. schiavone just hypes up goldberg's segment before fading to black and then cuts to curt hennig making his entrance. after that match and after an ad for the nitro party, a clip from the tonight show aired on the original version. on the network after the nitro party plug, it fades to black and cuts to hogan/bischoff making their entrance.after the BATB 98 segment airs, another tonight show clip is supposed to air, on the network thats taken out and it just cuts to goldberg making his entrance. everything that was trimmed out should time up to 10 minutes. not sure if i missed anything else
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Post by chazraps on Nov 17, 2018 0:00:20 GMT -5
Looking at CRZ's old recap of the 7/27/98 Nitro, it appears that what's missing is a Travis Tritt commercial for Road Wild. Obviously if it used his music it's right out, but I wonder if some of these inserts were put in at the network level and thus aren't part of the master tapes. If I recall correctly, it used Tritt's "Trouble"
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Post by wildojinx on Nov 17, 2018 1:02:11 GMT -5
Speaking of the Tonight Show clips being cut, do they also edit out the NWO Nightcap segments where he reuses Leno's jokes word-for-word?
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