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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 17, 2014 11:12:06 GMT -5
I learned that during a Kevin Sullivan/Dusty Rhodes "grudge match" that Al Perez using a chain on Dusty in front of the referee isn't grounds for a DQ and that Dusty can somehow pin Gary Hart to win the match. why not? Bret Hart once won a world title because Roddy Piper lay on top of an unconcious Goldberg to protect him and the ref counted a three-count.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 17, 2014 11:49:41 GMT -5
That ECW is not a secret anymore.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on May 17, 2014 12:23:34 GMT -5
I learned that during a Kevin Sullivan/Dusty Rhodes "grudge match" that Al Perez using a chain on Dusty in front of the referee isn't grounds for a DQ and that Dusty can somehow pin Gary Hart to win the match. why not? Bret Hart once won a world title because Roddy Piper lay on top of an unconcious Goldberg to protect him and the ref counted a three-count. Wait...what?
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Post by 67 more on May 17, 2014 13:31:58 GMT -5
why not? Bret Hart once won a world title because Roddy Piper lay on top of an unconcious Goldberg to protect him and the ref counted a three-count. Wait...what? Piper was supposed to lay on top of Goldberg to protect him from an nWo 2000 beating after Bret won the WCW title and was told not to get off Goldberg no matter what. However, Piper jumped the gun and came out during the match. As Piper wouldn't get off Goldberg and wouldn't let Bret pin him as a result, the referee just decided to count Piper on top as Bret's pin.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on May 17, 2014 13:35:46 GMT -5
Piper was supposed to lay on top of Goldberg to protect him from an nWo 2000 beating after Bret won the WCW title and was told not to get off Goldberg no matter what. However, Piper jumped the gun and came out during the match. As Piper wouldn't get off Goldberg and wouldn't let Bret pin him as a result, the referee just decided to count Piper on top as Bret's pin. They couldn't just rule it a no contest or anything like that? That makes literally no sense.
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Post by 67 more on May 17, 2014 13:39:09 GMT -5
Piper was supposed to lay on top of Goldberg to protect him from an nWo 2000 beating after Bret won the WCW title and was told not to get off Goldberg no matter what. However, Piper jumped the gun and came out during the match. As Piper wouldn't get off Goldberg and wouldn't let Bret pin him as a result, the referee just decided to count Piper on top as Bret's pin. They couldn't just rule it a no contest or anything like that? That makes literally no sense. The end game was for Bret to leave with the WCW title (I believe the title was vacant). The no contest wouldn't have awarded Bret the WCW title, until you could have just rebooked it the next night at Thunder or whatever. WCW always had a loose grasp of the rules in this fashion. I've seen Johnny B Badd retain the TV title against Meng by pinning DDP.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 17, 2014 13:48:57 GMT -5
They couldn't just rule it a no contest or anything like that? That makes literally no sense. The end game was for Bret to leave with the WCW title (I believe the title was vacant). The no contest wouldn't have awarded Bret the WCW title, until you could have just rebooked it the next night at Thunder or whatever. WCW always had a loose grasp of the rules in this fashion. I've seen Johnny B Badd retain the TV title against Meng by pinning DDP. I vaguely remember at least one ECW match ending after two wrestlers who ran in and weren't originally in the match pinning each other
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Post by turkeysandwich on May 17, 2014 15:32:28 GMT -5
They couldn't just rule it a no contest or anything like that? That makes literally no sense. The end game was for Bret to leave with the WCW title (I believe the title was vacant). The no contest wouldn't have awarded Bret the WCW title, until you could have just rebooked it the next night at Thunder or whatever. WCW always had a loose grasp of the rules in this fashion. I've seen Johnny B Badd retain the TV title against Meng by pinning DDP. If Wrestlemania IX had happened in WCW, Hogan and Beefcake would've won the tag titles due to the fact that Jimmy Hart had a zebra striped liner to his coat.
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Post by lildude8218 on May 17, 2014 16:27:30 GMT -5
This little kid was going to skip school and go to the game womb.....whatever that is.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on May 18, 2014 11:03:00 GMT -5
I knew Matt and Jeff Hardy did some jobbing in the WWF before they became a regular team on the B-shows (with the plaid pants and headbands). However, I didn't realize Matt Hardy did jobs in WWE as early as 1994. You can see Matt Hardy jobbing to Nikolai Volkoff on Raw in May of 1994.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 18, 2014 12:11:47 GMT -5
I knew Matt and Jeff Hardy did some jobbing in the WWF before they became a regular team on the B-shows (with the plaid pants and headbands). However, I didn't realize Matt Hardy did jobs in WWE as early as 1994. You can see Matt Hardy jobbing to Nikolai Volkoff on Raw in May of 1994. If I remember right, both of them lied about their age to get to work in the WWF and no-one verified it.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on May 18, 2014 12:23:20 GMT -5
I knew Matt and Jeff Hardy did some jobbing in the WWF before they became a regular team on the B-shows (with the plaid pants and headbands). However, I didn't realize Matt Hardy did jobs in WWE as early as 1994. You can see Matt Hardy jobbing to Nikolai Volkoff on Raw in May of 1994. If I remember right, both of them lied about their age to get to work in the WWF and no-one verified it. Wasn't Jeff 15/16 when he did his first match?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 18, 2014 12:26:50 GMT -5
If I remember right, both of them lied about their age to get to work in the WWF and no-one verified it. Wasn't Jeff 15/16 when he did his first match? That is what I've heard, yeah.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on May 18, 2014 12:36:00 GMT -5
I as continue watching 1994 Raws, I now find Jeff Hardy wrestling as 'Keith Davis.'
Looking up their dates of birth: Matt was 19 when he first wrestled on Raw. Jeff was 16 when he first wrestled on Raw.
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Post by lildude8218 on May 18, 2014 18:50:16 GMT -5
Maxx Payne stole that one Badd Blaster that Johnny B. Badd used. even though he would often use 3 and 4 at a time before PPV matches.
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Post by angryfan on May 18, 2014 20:09:51 GMT -5
They couldn't just rule it a no contest or anything like that? That makes literally no sense. The end game was for Bret to leave with the WCW title (I believe the title was vacant). The no contest wouldn't have awarded Bret the WCW title, until you could have just rebooked it the next night at Thunder or whatever. WCW always had a loose grasp of the rules in this fashion. I've seen Johnny B Badd retain the TV title against Meng by pinning DDP. Never forget Nash pinning Rey Rey in a gauntlet match without actually pinning him, or even making contact with him while the ref counted three.
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Post by turkeysandwich on May 19, 2014 0:39:58 GMT -5
I've learned from watching the Raws leading up to WM IX, Hogan/Beefcake vs Money Inc. was far and away the most promoted part of the card. The Bret/Yoko match was promoted about equal with the midcard matches like Perfect/Luger and Taker/Gonzales. They obviously were banking on Hogan to be the main draw of the show, so the ending shouldn't have surprised anybody.
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Post by lildude8218 on May 19, 2014 2:27:28 GMT -5
The Shockmaster claimed that he, Sting, Davey Boy and Dusty Rhodes would be facing off against Vader, Sid and Harlem Heat in War Games
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Post by Professor Chaos on May 19, 2014 6:28:00 GMT -5
Just watched Spring Stampede 2000 and enjoyed it. Say what you want about Russo but Halloween Havoc 99, Mayhem 99, Starrcade 99, Souled out 2000, and this were much better than the boring as hell SuperBrawl 2000 and Uncensored 2000 that Sullivan put out in between.
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Post by mute09 on May 19, 2014 8:28:27 GMT -5
Just watched Spring Stampede 2000 and enjoyed it. Say what you want about Russo but Halloween Havoc 99, Mayhem 99, Starrcade 99, Souled out 2000, and this were much better than the boring as hell SuperBrawl 2000 and Uncensored 2000 that Sullivan put out in between. I decided to start watching wcw over from when the reboot started last night I actually enjoyed the first few episodes of nitro and thunder I watched while it's not the best but I like it a lot better than the boring promo filled raw that wwe was putting on at the time. I really wish they could have gotten some of the older guys to put some of the younger talent over and it mean something but every time they did it felt underwhelming. For example when henning put over stasiak I forget what Ppv but they hardly made a big deal about it when he beat him with his own move in the middle of the ring. Mike awesome was supposed to be pushed huge but it didn't help him when ddp and Nash both refused to job for him. Vampiro beat sting but then when sting came back he was squashed on PPV by him which made his previous win mean nothing
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