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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 13:24:32 GMT -5
Speaking of which, I watched Halloween Havoc 2000 before. Bloody hell, that was bad. Worth watching to see Mike Awesome almost paralyse Vampiro, the dullest hardcore match of all time with Reno and A-WOL, Lance Storm made to look like a complete goober by Hugh Morrus (I'm not calling him by that stupid M.I.A. name), and a main event that may as well not have happened.
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Post by cabbageboy on Apr 19, 2014 13:55:03 GMT -5
Oh man, Souled Out 2000 is the crappiest of the shows I've watched on the Network thus far. The Malenko thing was amusing but as the show went on I got progressively angrier at what was going on, and the whole Madusa/Oklahoma debacle cemented it. The 2 Sullivan booked PPVs that followed were possibly less eventful and thus duller, but this show is worse in terms of its overall impact on the business. And the Russo lunacy from Spring Stampede 2000 through Halloween Havoc 2000 is at least fast paced insanity.
Actually that Havoc 2000 show is dire as well. It might give Souled Out a run for its money.
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Post by chazraps on Apr 19, 2014 14:02:33 GMT -5
While we're on the subject, which WCW 2000 pay-per-view is legitimately the *best*?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 19:31:20 GMT -5
Based on what I'm reading, am I going to have to start grading matches by Zs again? I did that around 1994-95 from WCW shows I fell asleep during. The more Zs, the more I missed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 19:45:40 GMT -5
Based on what I'm reading, am I going to have to start grading matches by Zs again? I did that around 1994-95 from WCW shows I fell asleep during. The more Zs, the more I missed. WCW 2000's less warranting a, "Zzzzz," scale and more a, "What?! F***ing what?!" one.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 19, 2014 20:51:40 GMT -5
While we're on the subject, which WCW 2000 pay-per-view is legitimately the *best*? As far as any shows being good, Fall Brawl or Starrcade is generally considered the best of the year, but they still fall short of even the WWF's worst PPV offerings that year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 22:04:59 GMT -5
In Your House: It's Time (Dec. 96) isn't necessarily "bad", the ending with Bret/Shawn/Sid is actually great, but it feels like a promotion that's going broke. It's hard to explain, it just feels really low rent with bad prodction, technical problems, overall a strange, depressive energy to it. There is an awesomely bad Undertaker/Executioner (Terry Gordy) match fought under "Armageddon" rules though.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Apr 19, 2014 22:09:24 GMT -5
Wish me luck, fellows: tonight I embark on watching Souled Out 2000.
Edit... Oh god, that David Flair/Vampiro feud recap video.
And now there's a random run in by Chono during a Vampiro promo... okay?
And wow, crazy David Flair is just... weird.
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Post by cabbageboy on Apr 19, 2014 22:22:31 GMT -5
I think some of my ultra disdain about Souled Out 2000 is that I was following the entire anarchy of WCW on the net leading up to that PPV. I've written grad school papers about it in fact. You know a promotion sucked when they give you fodder for 20 page papers in PR and Crisis Management as well as Risk Communication class.
As far as the best WCW 2000 era PPV, I'd go with Fall Brawl. Goldberg/Steiner is legit terrific, the Filthy Animals vs. Natural Born Thrillers elimination tag (where Orndorff hurt himself) was quite a good match before the stoppage, and I'd even say Awesome/Jarrett is an entertaining bunch of silliness. FB 2000 broke WCW's crappy PPV streak that dated back all the way to like Slamboree 1999, haha. Think about that. Almost a solid 16 months of bad PPVs. And that is how you go from doing a 1.1 buyrate to doing a .10.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 19, 2014 22:56:10 GMT -5
I think some of my ultra disdain about Souled Out 2000 is that I was following the entire anarchy of WCW on the net leading up to that PPV. I've written grad school papers about it in fact. You know a promotion sucked when they give you fodder for 20 page papers in PR and Crisis Management as well as Risk Communication class. As far as the best WCW 2000 era PPV, I'd go with Fall Brawl. Goldberg/Steiner is legit terrific, the Filthy Animals vs. Natural Born Thrillers elimination tag (where Orndorff hurt himself) was quite a good match before the stoppage, and I'd even say Awesome/Jarrett is an entertaining bunch of silliness. FB 2000 broke WCW's crappy PPV streak that dated back all the way to like Slamboree 1999, haha. Think about that. Almost a solid 16 months of bad PPVs. And that is how you go from doing a 1.1 buyrate to doing a .10. How did that paper go over?
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Post by cabbageboy on Apr 20, 2014 17:34:10 GMT -5
The PR and Crisis paper was an easy A, but the Risk Comm version required a power point presentation. Would you believe I was initially docked a point for discussing Benoit and Sullivan and saying Benoit was "banging" Sullivan's wife?
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Post by Shark on Apr 21, 2014 1:33:16 GMT -5
The PR and Crisis paper was an easy A, but the Risk Comm version required a power point presentation. Would you believe I was initially docked a point for discussing Benoit and Sullivan and saying Benoit was "banging" Sullivan's wife? Not gonna lie, I'd really like to read that paper lol.
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Post by rand0mzer0 on Apr 21, 2014 2:39:57 GMT -5
I think some of my ultra disdain about Souled Out 2000 is that I was following the entire anarchy of WCW on the net leading up to that PPV. I've written grad school papers about it in fact. You know a promotion sucked when they give you fodder for 20 page papers in PR and Crisis Management as well as Risk Communication class. As far as the best WCW 2000 era PPV, I'd go with Fall Brawl. Goldberg/Steiner is legit terrific, the Filthy Animals vs. Natural Born Thrillers elimination tag (where Orndorff hurt himself) was quite a good match before the stoppage, and I'd even say Awesome/Jarrett is an entertaining bunch of silliness. FB 2000 broke WCW's crappy PPV streak that dated back all the way to like Slamboree 1999, haha. Think about that. Almost a solid 16 months of bad PPVs. And that is how you go from doing a 1.1 buyrate to doing a .10. My brother's video store used to have a good majority of the 99-00 WCW PPVs on VHS and I watched EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. At that time, I just couldn't get enough of those awful events for whatever reason. Even though I watched them all, Fall Brawl 2000 is kind of a blur to me so I'm eager to go back and watch it now and see what you're talking about.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 24, 2014 4:36:40 GMT -5
John Cena beating Jesus and Kurt Angle beating Santa Claus. Worst. Christmas. Ever. Can't. Stop. Laughing.
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Post by crashmatsbazz on Apr 24, 2014 7:01:04 GMT -5
Fall Brawl 1995.
Although this has one of the greatest promo's of all time from Arn Anderson, A Jeep, A Mountain backdrop and the shortest short shorts ever this PPV also includes such highlights as: Cobra vs Sgt. Craig Pittman Renegade vs DDP Bunkhouse Buck & Dick Slater vs Harlem Heat but the thing that makes it....the thing that tip's this over the edge, that not even Double A vs Flair or Johnny B Badd v Fly'n Bryan can save. the one thing that tops this all off is.....THE ONE THING THAT MAKES IT BOTH GREAT AND AWFUL. PAUL ORDNORFF MEETING GARY SPIVEY!!
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Post by Magpies on Apr 24, 2014 9:08:28 GMT -5
Any WCW PPV from October 2000 onwards
Especially Halloween Havoc, Sin and Mayhem.
David Flair vs Buff Bagwell in a first blood match seriously goes down in the category of "what the f'n hell were they thinking?".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 13:18:13 GMT -5
The PR and Crisis paper was an easy A, but the Risk Comm version required a power point presentation. Would you believe I was initially docked a point for discussing Benoit and Sullivan and saying Benoit was "banging" Sullivan's wife? Not gonna lie, I'd really like to read that paper lol. Me too. I love reading writings like that about topics I enjoy so much. As for bad PPVs...the first half of Slamboree 1993 is pretty tough to sit through. I'm hoping it was fun nostalgia back then like seeing Piper and Hoganis fun today, because if not...then whew.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 24, 2014 13:42:48 GMT -5
I watched Uncensored '95 last night thanks to this thread. Holy shit, it was the best kind of horrible. The highlight for me was definitely the god-awful tornado tag match between Harlem Heat and the Nasty Boys. Heenan and Shiavone made that shitfest so damned entertaining, as did Sherri by getting more violent than the men.
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Post by The Tim Duncan Experience on Apr 24, 2014 15:46:25 GMT -5
I watched Uncensored '95 last night thanks to this thread. Holy shit, it was the best kind of horrible. The highlight for me was definitely the god-awful tornado tag match between Harlem Heat and the Nasty Boys. Heenan and Shiavone made that shitfest so damned entertaining, as did Sherri by getting more violent than the men. It was uncensored '96 for me. LOL whenever I take naps I put on the Sting/Booker T vs LOD Chicago Street Fight. I always just wake up and rewind the match. I like to use my imagination while listening to the match. Add my own twist, which is weird cause the match wasn't too bad. You know, there was that part during the Triple decker Doomsday match when Schiavone starts screaming that LEx Luger accidentally hit Ric Flair with the weighted glove. I think we all know it was blatant because after Macho ducked Lex grabs Flairs head, on purpose, and blasts him. Always found that funny
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 25, 2014 15:50:29 GMT -5
A lot of WWF PPV's from 99 were terrible. most of the time the only good match was the main event The yin to WCW's yang.
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