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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 4, 2014 19:13:44 GMT -5
I guess I'll be that guy, but I didn't even think of Corporate Kane when Abyss came out, especially since Corporate Kane doesn't have a mask, is friggin bald, and Abyss doesn't work for TNA's authority. My mind went straight to a fusion of Abyss' mask and Joseph Park's suit, and nothing more. But I'm not surprised some would think of it. (on another note, TNA won't copy the WWE Network, they had their own, TNA On Demand, for years before shutting if down in 2013) To be fair, TNA didn't help matters by putting Abyss in a new mask that looks MUCH more like Kane's mask he wore before going back to being maskless. Before, Abyss's mask was much more reminiscent of the oldest Kane mask or Mankind's, but this is a similar mold and in similar colors. The comparison was invited on their part.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 5, 2014 4:36:06 GMT -5
I don't understand why you guys are acting like "Corporate Kane" was the invention of the hired muscle gimmick. In all actuality Abyss is hardly playing any of the same angles as Kane currently is. Magnus is a Champion afraid of losing his belt so he is paying a bigger man to watch his back. Magnus even stated Abyss was HIS insurance policy. He hired Abyss without Dixies involvement because he didn't trust her lackies to watch his back. So, you mean to tell me that the near seven foot, three hundred pound monster, who wore a mask to hide the scars of his tormented childhood (that turned out to be psychological only), raised by his manager that eventually turned out to be his father in a shocking plot tiwst, that joins the cowardly World Champion under a corrupt regime; bears little resemblance to the near seven foot, three hundred pound monster, who wore a mask to hide the scars of his tormented childhood (that turned out to be psychological only), raised by his manager that eventually turned out to be his father in a shocking plot tiwst, that joins the cowardly World Champion after his corrupt regime ends up losing power. Even if you dispute the idea that Abyss is a Kane rip-off, I mentioned self-awareness in the original post for a reason. People have been saying this stuff about Abyss for years, and yet they trudged on with the idea to associate him with chosen world champ Magnus, and made him wearing a near-identical suit to the one that Kane wears right now. If they don't want people to think that Abyss is the discount store version of Kane, they can do that by not blatantly inviting these comparisons and coming up with some truly original ideas.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 4:48:40 GMT -5
Like the majority of Kane's career, he's taken something fairly crap and made it pretty watchable. Corporate Kane's droning "boss" voice works, he's an authority figure who can demand respect (unlike Maddox and Vicki) and wrestling without a shirt, at age 47, and still looking like someone who could crush you without breaking a sweat is very impressive. Corporate Kane kinda kicks ass. This, on the other hand, is thrift store level bullshit."Did you really have to go there?"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 8:18:51 GMT -5
The mask looks more like Rellik's old mask or a Muta mask to me. Rellik spelled backwards is Korporate Kane. I look forward to Gunner beginning to point one finger to the sky and shout, "Yeah!" But it'll be a really intense "YEAH!" The most technically sound INTENSE catchphrase in the business today.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Apr 5, 2014 8:52:42 GMT -5
Like the majority of Kane's career, he's taken something fairly crap and made it pretty watchable. Corporate Kane's droning "boss" voice works, he's an authority figure who can demand respect (unlike Maddox and Vicki) and wrestling without a shirt, at age 47, and still looking like someone who could crush you without breaking a sweat is very impressive. Corporate Kane kinda kicks ass. This, on the other hand, is thrift store level bullshit."Did you really have to go there?" Curt Hawkins is right, thrift stores are f***ing awesome. Where do you think Bobby Roode buys his robes from?
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 5, 2014 8:59:58 GMT -5
Like the majority of Kane's career, he's taken something fairly crap and made it pretty watchable. Corporate Kane's droning "boss" voice works, he's an authority figure who can demand respect (unlike Maddox and Vicki) and wrestling without a shirt, at age 47, and still looking like someone who could crush you without breaking a sweat is very impressive. Corporate Kane kinda kicks ass. This, on the other hand, is thrift store level bullshit."Did you really have to go there?" You know, when I was in third grade, I thought I was Macklemore.
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Post by jason1980s on Apr 5, 2014 11:51:35 GMT -5
"Did you really have to go there?" Curt Hawkins is right, thrift stores are f***ing awesome. Where do you think Bobby Roode buys his robes from?[/quote] He gets them from the Terry Taylor donation rack. His red/black with silver stars robe is the same one Taylor wore early in his WWF run and I think even in WCW. No matter how big TNA tries to make Roode, he will always be "Roode-ster" to me. TNA probably gladly accepts a dime/thrift store comparison. Now I'd be pissed if I ran a thrift store and was compared to TNA but I'm sure Dixie would be very pleased. Someone on another board stated TNA is, at best, an indy fed pretending to be WCW. Personally, I feel that's wrong and ignorant to indy feds. To me, TNA is an indoor version of a backyard fed pretending to be an indy fed that pretends to be WCW. I bet if WWE had a list of subscribers to the network, they'd have a bunch of names of TNA backstage employees, especially Dixie. I'm sure Raw is required viewing to gain employment as a TNA writer.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 12:05:41 GMT -5
I bet if WWE had a list of subscribers to the network, they'd have a bunch of names of TNA backstage employees, especially Dixie. I'm sure Raw is required viewing to gain employment as a TNA writer. It would be quite amazing for employees of a wrestling company to subscribe to a wrestling channel that has a lot of classic content.
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Post by grunt on Apr 5, 2014 12:13:48 GMT -5
I don't understand why you guys are acting like "Corporate Kane" was the invention of the hired muscle gimmick. In all actuality Abyss is hardly playing any of the same angles as Kane currently is. Magnus is a Champion afraid of losing his belt so he is paying a bigger man to watch his back. Magnus even stated Abyss was HIS insurance policy. He hired Abyss without Dixies involvement because he didn't trust her lackies to watch his back. So, you mean to tell me that the near seven foot, three hundred pound monster, who wore a mask to hide the scars of his tormented childhood (that turned out to be psychological only), raised by his manager that eventually turned out to be his father in a shocking plot tiwst, that joins the cowardly World Champion under a corrupt regime; bears little resemblance to the near seven foot, three hundred pound monster, who wore a mask to hide the scars of his tormented childhood (that turned out to be psychological only), raised by his manager that eventually turned out to be his father in a shocking plot tiwst, that joins the cowardly World Champion after his corrupt regime ends up losing power. Even if you dispute the idea that Abyss is a Kane rip-off, I mentioned self-awareness in the original post for a reason. People have been saying this stuff about Abyss for years, and yet they trudged on with the idea to associate him with chosen world champ Magnus, and made him wearing a near-identical suit to the one that Kane wears right now. If they don't want people to think that Abyss is the discount store version of Kane, they can do that by not blatantly inviting these comparisons and coming up with some truly original ideas. Ah, but nobody's disputing the fact that Abyss is a Kane & Mankind rip-off, at his core. Has always been, will always be. But the comparisons between Corporate Kane and Abyss have no other basis than their visuals, really. The storylines are different, the motivations are different, the situations are different... what this thread amounts to is "hey, they put their Kane rip-off in a suit during a segment, just like Corporate Kane ! LolTNA !". I wonder if, when they debuted Corporate Kane, the same people were "hey, they unmasked Kane & put him in a suit, just like Joseph Park ! LolWWE !". Cos those two situations/characters/storylines have just as much in common as the current Corporate Kane & Bodyguard Abyss have.
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Post by YaakovLee on Apr 5, 2014 12:34:46 GMT -5
Abyss is just TNA's mockbuster for Kane. Why even get upset at this point?
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Post by Wolfman Rose on Apr 5, 2014 13:53:03 GMT -5
Abyss is just TNA's mockbuster for Kane. Why even get upset at this point? Because it's still stupid
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Post by Blindkarevik on Apr 5, 2014 15:05:22 GMT -5
This really is beginning to be kinda like when you tell someone a story who wasn't really listening. Then later, when talking to them, they suddenly remember the story and start telling you... completely forgetting that you're the one who told them the story to begin with.
You, generally, don't correct them, you generally don't mention you're the one to tell them the story, mainly because you're too busy wondering if this is actually f***ing happening.
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Post by Glitch on Apr 5, 2014 15:08:49 GMT -5
So, you mean to tell me that the near seven foot, three hundred pound monster, who wore a mask to hide the scars of his tormented childhood (that turned out to be psychological only), raised by his manager that eventually turned out to be his father in a shocking plot tiwst, that joins the cowardly World Champion under a corrupt regime; bears little resemblance to the near seven foot, three hundred pound monster, who wore a mask to hide the scars of his tormented childhood (that turned out to be psychological only), raised by his manager that eventually turned out to be his father in a shocking plot tiwst, that joins the cowardly World Champion after his corrupt regime ends up losing power. Even if you dispute the idea that Abyss is a Kane rip-off, I mentioned self-awareness in the original post for a reason. People have been saying this stuff about Abyss for years, and yet they trudged on with the idea to associate him with chosen world champ Magnus, and made him wearing a near-identical suit to the one that Kane wears right now. If they don't want people to think that Abyss is the discount store version of Kane, they can do that by not blatantly inviting these comparisons and coming up with some truly original ideas. I wonder if, when they debuted Corporate Kane, the same people were "hey, they unmasked Kane & put him in a suit, just like Joseph Park ! LolWWE !". It's all clear now.
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Post by Danimal on Apr 6, 2014 4:32:32 GMT -5
So, you mean to tell me that the near seven foot, three hundred pound monster, who wore a mask to hide the scars of his tormented childhood (that turned out to be psychological only), raised by his manager that eventually turned out to be his father in a shocking plot tiwst, that joins the cowardly World Champion under a corrupt regime; bears little resemblance to the near seven foot, three hundred pound monster, who wore a mask to hide the scars of his tormented childhood (that turned out to be psychological only), raised by his manager that eventually turned out to be his father in a shocking plot tiwst, that joins the cowardly World Champion after his corrupt regime ends up losing power. Even if you dispute the idea that Abyss is a Kane rip-off, I mentioned self-awareness in the original post for a reason. People have been saying this stuff about Abyss for years, and yet they trudged on with the idea to associate him with chosen world champ Magnus, and made him wearing a near-identical suit to the one that Kane wears right now. If they don't want people to think that Abyss is the discount store version of Kane, they can do that by not blatantly inviting these comparisons and coming up with some truly original ideas. Ah, but nobody's disputing the fact that Abyss is a Kane & Mankind rip-off, at his core. Has always been, will always be. But the comparisons between Corporate Kane and Abyss have no other basis than their visuals, really. The storylines are different, the motivations are different, the situations are different... what this thread amounts to is "hey, they put their Kane rip-off in a suit during a segment, just like Corporate Kane ! LolTNA !". I wonder if, when they debuted Corporate Kane, the same people were "hey, they unmasked Kane & put him in a suit, just like Joseph Park ! LolWWE !". Cos those two situations/characters/storylines have just as much in common as the current Corporate Kane & Bodyguard Abyss have. This Last time I checked Abyss isn't running anything, so how is this so like Corporate Kane? He's in a role he's played recurrently, the too-easily manipulated goon. They are going over trod territory but it's their own not WWE's.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 10, 2014 22:14:58 GMT -5
This really is beginning to be kinda like when you tell someone a story who wasn't really listening. Then later, when talking to them, they suddenly remember the story and start telling you... completely forgetting that you're the one who told them the story to begin with. You, generally, don't correct them, you generally don't mention you're the one to tell them the story, mainly because you're too busy wondering if this is actually f***ing happening. This is probably about as good of a description of the last two hours as you will ever get.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Apr 11, 2014 13:39:32 GMT -5
TNA is starting to look more and more like the Asylum Studios of professional wrestling.
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Post by metylerca on Apr 11, 2014 15:12:35 GMT -5
TNA is starting to look more and more like the Asylum Studios of professional wrestling. "Yeah. Looks like." /Travolta
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Post by nisidhe on Apr 12, 2014 11:03:09 GMT -5
This is something Trips would laugh his ass over on a Friday afternoon at the office while finishing up the last of his paperwork before telling his secretary to type up a standard C&D letter and flip it over to Legal to go over so he can sign and mail it on his way out.
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