StuntGranny®
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Not Actually a Granny
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Post by StuntGranny® on Apr 7, 2014 10:36:01 GMT -5
While I'm sad the streak ended and sad about the moron that ended it, the more I think about it, the saddest part is it ruined Bryan's night. That should've been HIS night and it completely f***ed that up. Terrible.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 10:37:17 GMT -5
I think that Taker losing is possibly more significant than just the streak ending. By all accounts the Undertaker is Vince's favorite creation and with the theme of change, it could very well be symbolic of change at all levels of the product. Vince has been in charge about the same length of time as Vince Sr., it could be nothing but is something worth considering with Vince being more hands off for WM.
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Post by kingbookermark on Apr 7, 2014 10:37:30 GMT -5
You got Russo'd clap clap clap clap clap For real
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Apr 7, 2014 10:38:37 GMT -5
I think Taker has something seriously wrong. I think that is the only explanation for the sudden and poorly built end to the streak.
I don't know if it is injury or illness, but I suspect there is a lot more going on here than what we saw on TV.
Hopefully it is something positive, like just wanting to not have to deal with wrestling anymore and preferring to stay home and bang Michelle McCool, but I'm worried.
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Post by Thunderbolt on Apr 7, 2014 10:39:09 GMT -5
Maybe they want the Title to mean something more again? Taker's streak was infinitely more precious than the title, which has been passed around wayyy too much. With the streak gone, now the title is back to being the big prize.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 7, 2014 10:43:45 GMT -5
If they were going to do it why Lesnar? Why not a face vs face next year against Roman Reigns or Cesaro to establish him as the new monster babyface? I've never liked the streak and always thought the only way it had value was when it ended. But you can only end it once. This was such a waste.
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Post by doinkmark on Apr 7, 2014 10:46:45 GMT -5
Having had some time to reflect, I think this makes a lot of sense in kayfabe. Brock, even in kayfabe, is a part-time guy who lost a good chunk of the few matches he's had. Meanwhile the last few years Undertaker beat Legends and full-time big name stars. So the fact that a part-time, half-the-time-losing Lesnar could then put him down shows in kayfabe that, yeah, 'Taker doesn't have it anymore. None of us thought Lesnar had a chance at The Streak, which is exactly what made him a good choice to end it. As for the buildup of the match, that made a lot of sense too. 'Taker technically made the challenge this time instead of the other way around, and his usual mind games that we've all seen before didn't phase Brock, which also shows it's time to go.
Going forward the big money match will be Brock vs Bryan. Also, if Undertaker does choose to have one more match before retiring, he can potentially go out a winner with the respect he deserves from fans and management without having to lose The Streak. No one would believe him if he just said he was done, or if someone "killed" him again because we've seen guys come back from those things - especially Undertaker! But after losing the Streak and then saying you're done after one more 'Mania? I'd buy that. Literally. I imagine Undertaker going out on Raw tonight to give a farewell speech like others have done before him, only for Sting to interrupt and say that before both of them hang it up for good they need to find out for themselves, and the fans, who the better man is at WM31.
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khali
Dennis Stamp
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Post by khali on Apr 7, 2014 10:48:15 GMT -5
Another thing: maybe it had to end here for a couple reasons. Not only does it look Taker has nothing left, but this was the first year where no one bought the nearfalls. The crowd just didn't buy that there was a chance of the streak ending. And once that happens, where's the drama of the match? What's the point in going on?
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Post by kingbookermark on Apr 7, 2014 10:49:42 GMT -5
If the news stories are true, Taker wanted the streak to end several years earlier. Finally, he gets his wish. Yeah sad and happy, I was there to see it!
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Post by kingbookermark on Apr 7, 2014 10:51:38 GMT -5
Favorite wrestler of all time, the streak was pretty much the main thing I looked forward to all these years at Mania. Gonna be surreal not having it to look forward to anymore. Him beating Batista for the World Title at Mania 23 was probably my biggest markout moment ever. I'm kinda bummed right now Mine was winning against Triple H at 27!
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Post by kingbookermark on Apr 7, 2014 10:57:26 GMT -5
I have no words to convey my feelings. I was there when it started, 1-0 at Mania 7. And you think it would last longer. I was dreaming of 25-0 against Cena at 33. Now? I feel... empty. Speechless. I know a huge part of my childhood and my wrestling fandom has passed. I just.... what else can I say? Numb. Shock. Sad. All are in my heart. But also gratitude to Mark Callaway and all he has given for so long. Thank you, Taker. We love you. Love you Taker. The mysticism is still there because the character was what made the streak!
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 7, 2014 11:00:55 GMT -5
Honestly... I think I'd be more pissed if that match wasn't so shitty. Hopefully Taker is done. Agreed. For the first time, Taker looked like a sad old man out there. I am glad he's hanging it up before he starts to embarrass himself out there. Also they legitimately surprised me for the first time in YEARS so good on WWE.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Apr 7, 2014 11:03:41 GMT -5
I will say too, this will give me second thoughts whenever I think a match is so predictable and the finish is obvious. The big matches of this show both come off like that... Think The Streak is a given? Yoink... bye bye. Think BIG BAD Triple H is going bury the "Internet favourite"? Nah, he'll just put the guy over clean without even kicking out of his finisher. Think John Cena will never change his demeanour? Well... two out of three isn't too bad given their record. Oh no, we got plenty of the third one. Dude was freaked out from bell to bell, and he still looked shook up afterwards.
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Eunös ✈
Dalek
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Apr 7, 2014 11:06:02 GMT -5
Wow You know there have been years when I thought the streak was in potential danger, this wasn't one of them. Whilst Brock is not my first choice to end the streak I can certainly think of worse. I would have preferred the undertaker to have retired undefeated, but alas, it's officially over. Now for someone to begin an unvictorious streak
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Post by Thunderbolt on Apr 7, 2014 11:06:48 GMT -5
For everyone saying Taker looked so bad out there, it's being said he got a concussion very early in the match(and possibly a meck injury), so maybe he would have been up to the standard of the last few years if not for that happening.
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BrianZane
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Post by BrianZane on Apr 7, 2014 11:12:15 GMT -5
As much as a lot of people on here would like, the Streak-Ender should never have been a "young up-and-comer", some guy who they could theoretically push to the moon afterward. It should always have been a veteran or a name like HBK, HHH, Lesnar, etc. Those guys already have established legends/histories so ending the streak would have been the cherry on top.
If you give that distinction to a younger guy like Cesaro or Reigns, then the expectations get unrealistically high. What if the wrestler gets a serious injury and has to retire? What if their push gets killed for no reason? What if they just burn out? Then you gave some guy the biggest distinction in wrestling and it was all for nothing. It would be like giving Kennedy the MITB contract or giving Jack Swagger the Heavyweight Title...oh wait.
The title of "The Man Who Ended the Streak" has grown far too large for any normal roster member to hold. It had to go to a guy like Lesnar because it would at least be safe there.
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Post by AnActualBear on Apr 7, 2014 11:13:05 GMT -5
This made perfect sense, Brock is the perfect guy to do it. If a young guy did it it would overshadow his whole career and there's no way he could ever live up to that. Brock has legitimate credentials and has broad shoulders, he can take the heat. Plus, imagine how big it will be when someone beats Brock? They should do Bryan/Brock at Summerslam, Bryan can then beat the guy who ended the streak clean. It will be huge.
As for the guy who said this overshadowed Bryan's win, that is absurd. He SINGLE-HANDEDLY got a crowd on the brink of rioting to go crazy at the finish and during the match. He's the most over guy since Austin in his prime. This is Bryan's night, on a night where 'Taker lost his streak Bryan is the biggest story coming out of it. That is astonishing.
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Post by Diamond Cutter Out of Nowhere! on Apr 7, 2014 11:17:16 GMT -5
Honestly... I think I'd be more pissed if that match wasn't so shitty. Hopefully Taker is done. Agreed. For the first time, Taker looked like a sad old man out there. I am glad he's hanging it up before he starts to embarrass himself out there. Also they legitimately surprised me for the first time in YEARS so good on WWE. This was what I thought. The only real surprise they had left with the streak... was ending it. The moment it created was perfect, too. Genuine shock.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Apr 7, 2014 11:27:41 GMT -5
I'm worried with all the "I'm done with WWE"
Not by some smarks, but by some casuals fans who truly see this as the end of the attitude era and who doesn't feel like any of the newcomers is worthy.
I wonder how many of there will be there? Or in the is still the same since they don't follow the product that much¡
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Post by The Trashman on Apr 7, 2014 11:28:22 GMT -5
While I'm sad the streak ended and sad about the moron that ended it, the more I think about it, the saddest part is it ruined Bryan's night. That should've been HIS night and it completely f***ed that up. Terrible. Then you should be mad at Taker. This was his call not WWE's
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