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Post by James Fabiano on Apr 16, 2014 19:36:42 GMT -5
...or do what the Fox series did....make him basically like Spidey but moodier and more violent, escalating till he is totally losing control until it is almost too late. They had a ready-made story for it with Sandman being linked to Uncle Ben's death. Will Spidey kill Sandy for revenge under the black suit's influence? That's how the story should have climaxed, NOT with dancing.
Spectacular Spider-Man did the same route as the Fox series, BTW.
/SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCKER!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 19:53:39 GMT -5
The one thing I will defend is Emo Parker.
That is Peter's idea of cool. He is a fundamentally uncool dude acting out his idea of cool, and it makes him look like a weird asshole because he's still a social weirdo.
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Post by DSR on Apr 16, 2014 21:04:56 GMT -5
The one thing I will defend is Emo Parker. That is Peter's idea of cool. He is a fundamentally uncool dude acting out his idea of cool, and it makes him look like a weird asshole because he's still a social weirdo. Pretty much. In his mind, that dancing emo-haired goof is a badass.
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Post by BorneAgain on Apr 16, 2014 21:11:16 GMT -5
The one thing I will defend is Emo Parker. That is Peter's idea of cool. He is a fundamentally uncool dude acting out his idea of cool, and it makes him look like a weird asshole because he's still a social weirdo. Perhaps, but it does largely destroy much of the drama of the symbiote's influence on him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 22:39:00 GMT -5
It gave me my favorite line of the entire Spidey trilogy, as well as the new Andrew Garfield films:
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Apr 16, 2014 23:02:32 GMT -5
I've always felt Sandman was a lame villain and the symbiote storyline should've been the focal point in my opinion. They already had a darker storyline with Harry seeking to avenge his father, add the symbiote to the picture, and you could've had Peter become far more aggressive, abusive, and intimidating really. In Raimi's defense he didn't even want the symbiote/Venom storyline, the studio and producers essentially forced him to do it, and the end result is what we got unfortunately.
But to be fair to the film itself it did give us that awesome aerial fight sequence between Harry and Peter though!
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Apr 17, 2014 6:00:54 GMT -5
Let's twist again, like we did last summer. "No one will be seated during the thrilling omelet making scene!" Actual quote from me in the theater.
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Post by Some Guy on Apr 17, 2014 7:20:18 GMT -5
Funny scenes from Raimi's Spider-Man?
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Post by Freddy BooJangles on Apr 17, 2014 8:34:54 GMT -5
Spiderman 3 is one of those films that would've been great for a Mystery Science Theatre 3000 riffing, I mean its so bad that you want to laugh at it for being just so unintentionally funny.
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Post by James Fabiano on Apr 17, 2014 11:10:18 GMT -5
Spiderman 3 is one of those films that would've been great for a Mystery Science Theatre 3000 riffing, I mean its so bad that you want to laugh at it for being just so unintentionally funny. Did Rifftrax do it?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 11:20:11 GMT -5
Spiderman 3 is one of those films that would've been great for a Mystery Science Theatre 3000 riffing, I mean its so bad that you want to laugh at it for being just so unintentionally funny. Did Rifftrax do it? Yes, along with the rest of the Raimi trilogy.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 17, 2014 11:30:57 GMT -5
There needed to be a scene where Harry beats the tar out of his butler for not sharing the little fact that Peter/Spidey didn'r kill his father, and that it was his own machine that did it
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Apr 17, 2014 11:35:28 GMT -5
There needed to be a scene where Harry beats the tar out of his butler for not sharing the little fact that Peter/Spidey didn'r kill his father, and that it was his own machine that did it That would've been hilarious and made the film a masterpiece. But in Bernard's defense, he DID try to get Harry to stop obsessing over it. I guess he felt he was safe from retaliation after Harry took a Pumpkin grenade to the face.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 17, 2014 12:01:34 GMT -5
I said out loud in theaters, "You couldn't have told him EARLIER?!" when the butler made his little appearance.
The people beside me shushed me.
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Apr 17, 2014 12:06:33 GMT -5
This movie would have been a lot better if they had waited to do Venom for the 4th one that never happened. Sandman and Green Goblin 2 (Harry) should have been the villains. And, they could have done a better job of making Peter turn bad.
Though, they at least got Sandman right. He was easily the best thing about that film.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 17, 2014 12:26:18 GMT -5
Have talked about it to death on here and other places, it wasn't as bad a flick as it was just disappointing, because there were the seeds for two really good movies in there instead of just one mediocre one.
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Post by DSR on Apr 17, 2014 12:35:09 GMT -5
This movie would have been a lot better if they had waited to do Venom for the 4th one that never happened. Sandman and Green Goblin 2 (Harry) should have been the villains. And, they could have done a better job of making Peter turn bad. Though, they at least got Sandman right. He was easily the best thing about that film. I felt like they could have broken Spider-Man 3 into 3 separate movies. Spider-Man 3: Harry acts like he's Peter's friend, but uses his wealth to bribe Sandman into doing his bidding, trying to destroy Spider-Man. Spidey wins with the help of the alien symbiote that becomes his new costume. Debut Eddie Brock as a minor character in the Bugle scenes here. Keep Gwen Stacy and have Peter and MJ drift apart over the course of the film (Kirsten Dunst seemed tired of playing the character anyway). Spider-Man 4: Frustrated, Harry becomes the new Green Goblin and goes after Spidey himself. Meanwhile, the symbiote gives Peter an unpleasant attitude (preferably without the dancing), he costs Eddie Brock his job (hopefully Brock doesn't actually deserve to lose his job for photoshopping pictures and making up stuff in this version of things) and when Spider-Man goes too far beating the hell out of a burglar or somebody, he ditches the symbiote in the church bell tower. Spidey beats Harry, and the end credits stinger is the symbiote finding Brock in the church. Spider-Man 5: Spider-Man vs. Venom. Have Venom kill Gwen for dramatic effect. Spidey defeats Venom and sends him to jail. If Dunst wants to come back, have MJ and Pete reunite. Otherwise, Peter ends up with the hottest chick in the film series: Betty Brant. End credits stinger sees Brock in prison, Cletus Kasady wheeled in Hannibal Lecter-style.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 17, 2014 12:53:19 GMT -5
Spider-Man 4: Frustrated, Harry becomes the new Green Goblin and goes after Spidey himself. Meanwhile, the symbiote gives Peter an unpleasant attitude (preferably without the dancing), he costs Eddie Brock his job (hopefully Brock doesn't actually deserve to lose his job for photoshopping pictures and making up stuff in this version of things) and when Spider-Man goes too far beating the hell out of a burglar or somebody, he ditches the symbiote in the church bell tower. Spidey beats Harry, and the end credits stinger is the symbiote finding Brock in the church. In the original story though something like this did happen to get him fired... not photoshop since he was a reporter but he didn't check his source and got burned when Spider-man caught the real sin-eater.
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Post by Chip on Apr 17, 2014 13:00:21 GMT -5
Pretty sure this movie burnt me out on everything Spider-Man. I keep trying to get together the energy to hit play on Amazing Spider-Man as I hear good things but I can't bring myself to do it.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 17, 2014 13:01:02 GMT -5
It's definitely rewatchable for the sake of laughing at it. It just had too much going on, and the stuff that was there was handled poorly.
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