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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Apr 21, 2014 10:42:45 GMT -5
I could see the WWE bringing back Bubba for a final run as the dudleyz
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Post by Red Impact on Apr 21, 2014 12:13:44 GMT -5
AJ and Aries are both 36 years old. Daniel does do the flying Headbutt, missile Drop Kick, Suicide Drive, and fast passed kicks. Plus the flip of the top before hitting another running move. Bryan is Submission/techincal/High flyer, and striker. The guy is a mix and does a little more moves in the air than Taker. The reason about you High Flying theory is because guys they had all over the card got older and hurt. I mean Rey was MEer or very high on the card before he broke down. Kingston gets pushes from time to time. RVD just cameback so there is another flyer right there. They got a couple in NXT who likely getting called up soon. I think you're overselling the aerial aspect of his arsenal a little bit. Doing some kicks on the ground isn't the same as being an aerial wrestler. Guys like Kidd and Gabriel, who never get used outside of "throw the roster into a battle royal" are flyers. In terms of true aerial wrestlers, Bryan really doesn't that much more than any other person on the roster who isn't a giant, and he's certainly not one when you compare him to either Sin Cara or Kofi, who also don't get used much. It's not that WWE never has an aerial wrestler on tv, it's that they don't make it a point to emphasize them. And the frame of the question is "should/could guys like Styles or Aries go to WWE." The fact that they have guys much younger than them on the roster who would be filling the same spots for a company that doesn't take a lot of time to focus on that type of wrestler. Mysterio has been solid midcard for a while now, and he and RVD (and Hardy, if he went back) have the pre-built name value that a guy like Aries wouldn't have. Whether Styles is famous enough for that is debatable at this point, but in both cases, they have younger people who already have gone through the system like Sami and Neville to compete with. It'd be a bad move, if WWE would even give them a shot. If you don't have the built in name value, then that style of wrestler at that age probably isn't going to be happy with what they got, fi they got anything.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Apr 21, 2014 13:56:07 GMT -5
AJ and Aries are both 36 years old. Daniel does do the flying Headbutt, missile Drop Kick, Suicide Drive, and fast passed kicks. Plus the flip of the top before hitting another running move. Bryan is Submission/techincal/High flyer, and striker. The guy is a mix and does a little more moves in the air than Taker. The reason about you High Flying theory is because guys they had all over the card got older and hurt. I mean Rey was MEer or very high on the card before he broke down. Kingston gets pushes from time to time. RVD just cameback so there is another flyer right there. They got a couple in NXT who likely getting called up soon. I think you're overselling the aerial aspect of his arsenal a little bit. Doing some kicks on the ground isn't the same as being an aerial wrestler. Guys like Kidd and Gabriel, who never get used outside of "throw the roster into a battle royal" are flyers. In terms of true aerial wrestlers, Bryan really doesn't that much more than any other person on the roster who isn't a giant, and he's certainly not one when you compare him to either Sin Cara or Kofi, who also don't get used much. It's not that WWE never has an aerial wrestler on tv, it's that they don't make it a point to emphasize them. And the frame of the question is "should/could guys like Styles or Aries go to WWE." The fact that they have guys much younger than them on the roster who would be filling the same spots for a company that doesn't take a lot of time to focus on that type of wrestler. Mysterio has been solid midcard for a while now, and he and RVD (and Hardy, if he went back) have the pre-built name value that a guy like Aries wouldn't have. Whether Styles is famous enough for that is debatable at this point, but in both cases, they have younger people who already have gone through the system like Sami and Neville to compete with. It'd be a bad move, if WWE would even give them a shot. If you don't have the built in name value, then that style of wrestler at that age probably isn't going to be happy with what they got, fi they got anything. I don't think I'm over selling Bryan as a high flyer at all. Some of his kicks he running and jumping to do them, you don't 100% need too jump of the ropes to be a flyer. Over all he is not less of a high flyer then HBK was. The only difference is Bryan doesn't do a moonsults but HBK didn't do stuff like a running knee off an apron. Different moves but same effect of taking air. HBK was considers a high flyer and I compare what moves he does too Bryan they balance out only HBK may had a little more "flash". The only reason why Rey is a mid carder and been that way for a while because he keeps getting hurt before they can gain trust to give him the ball. I blame Rey own health more then WWE writing. But back to the point of AJ and Aries going to the WWE. IMO they are good enough had they been younger. But the WWE isn't going to sign two guys in the mid 30s to build them up with there own touch. You know the WWE likes too add there "touch" I doubt AJ would just walk in and be the Phenomenal one without a change or Aries be the "Great Man too ever live" without a change. Jeff Hardy wouldn't be this WILLOW deal.
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Post by austinariesfan88 on Apr 21, 2014 14:03:42 GMT -5
Aries, Daniels, Kaz, Kenny King, Roode and their age shouldn't be a problem because all these guys can go in the ring and could easily adapt to the WWE style if needed to.
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Post by Red Impact on Apr 21, 2014 14:20:52 GMT -5
I think you're overselling the aerial aspect of his arsenal a little bit. Doing some kicks on the ground isn't the same as being an aerial wrestler. Guys like Kidd and Gabriel, who never get used outside of "throw the roster into a battle royal" are flyers. In terms of true aerial wrestlers, Bryan really doesn't that much more than any other person on the roster who isn't a giant, and he's certainly not one when you compare him to either Sin Cara or Kofi, who also don't get used much. It's not that WWE never has an aerial wrestler on tv, it's that they don't make it a point to emphasize them. And the frame of the question is "should/could guys like Styles or Aries go to WWE." The fact that they have guys much younger than them on the roster who would be filling the same spots for a company that doesn't take a lot of time to focus on that type of wrestler. Mysterio has been solid midcard for a while now, and he and RVD (and Hardy, if he went back) have the pre-built name value that a guy like Aries wouldn't have. Whether Styles is famous enough for that is debatable at this point, but in both cases, they have younger people who already have gone through the system like Sami and Neville to compete with. It'd be a bad move, if WWE would even give them a shot. If you don't have the built in name value, then that style of wrestler at that age probably isn't going to be happy with what they got, fi they got anything. I don't think I'm over selling Bryan as a high flyer at all. Some of his kicks he running and jumping to do them, you don't 100% need too jump of the ropes to be a flyer. Over all he is not less of a high flyer then HBK was. The only difference is Bryan doesn't do a moonsults but HBK didn't do stuff like a running knee off an apron. Different moves but same effect of taking air. HBK was considers a high flyer and I compare what moves he does too Bryan they balance out only HBK may had a little more "flash". The only reason why Rey is a mid carder and been that way for a while because he keeps getting hurt before they can gain trust to give him the ball. I blame Rey own health more then WWE writing. But back to the point of AJ and Aries going to the WWE. IMO they are good enough had they been younger. But the WWE isn't going to sign two guys in the mid 30s to build them up with there own touch. You know the WWE likes too add there "touch" I doubt AJ would just walk in and be the Phenomenal one without a change or Aries be the "Great Man too ever live" without a change. Jeff Hardy wouldn't be this WILLOW deal. We'll just have to agree to disagree on what constitutes an aerial ring style, because a running kick or knee isn't any more high flying to me than a brough kick or Orton's punt. But ultimately, it doesn't matter too much how we define it. Other than that, I agree. I think they have plenty of talent to do it, they're just not going to sign a wrestler in their mid 30's anymore unless they're a giant like Batista. They have younger guys they can fill that slot with, and WWE isn't likely going to want them to come in without giving them something they can trademark. And I don't think either guy was really big enough to skip developmental, if that's even an option anymore.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Apr 21, 2014 16:16:15 GMT -5
Maybe Kurt for a legends contract and Hall of Fame induction. They would sign Jeff Hardy back in a heartbeat if he was clean. Other than that, I can't think of anyone. MVP is to old, EC3 is mediocre at best, Roode and Storm are both well in their thirty's. Styles hasn't done a lick of wrestling in the WWE to make it be age 37. It sucks really, you had talented people sitting around in little rinky-dinky TNA for so many years, their stocks have significantly lowered and they never truly known what it mean to be at the big time. My best bet, never go to TNA. Wait for WWE to come calling. It worked out ALOT of Daniel Bryan. Maybe Aries, but that's pretty much it as far as the "non-former WWE" TNA talent is concerned. And I'm just saying that because he's the only one I remembered that was the least bit entertaining when I used to sporadically watch TNA many months ago. WWE's roster is basically stacked with both the main roster and developmental, they really don't need anyone from TNA. Hardy is clean.
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